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Old 19th Oct 2009, 11:52
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Although im not sure if LAS would be a viable route for LS as TCX operate from MAN, then you have CO, US, DL, AA with one change, and also BA start there LHR service this month which i think is daily, along with VS from LGW again Daily.

My money would be on SFB initialy.
Don't quite follow your logic on this, Orlando in operated from MAN by all the charter operators, and Virgin, along with the US carriers and BA with one en-route stop. LAS is only operated by one charter operator, whilst there's less demand for LAS over Orlando I don't think your arguement stacks up at all.
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 12:16
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johnny, totally agree with you on that. after all, practically anywhere in the states, canada even middle & far east is possible from manchester with just 1 change en route.

i would love to see a dominican route from either man or lba, i'm sure with the choice of great value accommodation there that surely must be a contention. alternatively they could put it on one of their short haul / high density route - one that is practically full all the time and popular, increasing capacity on a sure fire route.

was there any mention of numbers of 767 aircraft?
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 15:24
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Should long haul happen at Jet2, it will be from MAN to start with, however the first routes flown on the 767 will be from LBA due to the large Jet2 infrastructure available at LBA to get 767 operations up and running.
So you're saying that Manchester lacks the infrastructure to handle 767's ???
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 16:23
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Don't quite follow your logic on this, Orlando in operated from MAN by all the charter operators, and Virgin, along with the US carriers and BA with one en-route stop. LAS is only operated by one charter operator, whilst there's less demand for LAS over Orlando I don't think your arguement stacks up at all.
My argument is that Orlando has far more demand than Las Vegas from the UK market.
Bearing in mind that the charters to Orlando now are only TOM, MON and TCX and thats it, compared to a few years ago with MYT, MON, XLA, TOM, FCA, TCX.
TCX and TOM dont operate the number of flights like they used to.

I may be wrong in my thinking, but i still think if its a US destination it will be Orlando.
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 19:37
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So you're saying that Manchester lacks the infrastructure to handle 767's ???
Not at all, I was purely meaning as LBA is Jet2's home base, completely self handling station with an in house on site maintenance facility as well as the companies HQ - primarily operations as i'm sure there will be a lot of analysing the first few flights. Everyone who will be involved with the 767 introcution are based at LBA, as were the guys who sorted out ETOPs so it is natural for the company to trial the flights where there is most scope for it all to go tits up. In reality MAN has much better infrastructure to handle 767's than LBA does from a day to day operational perspective, however I was meaning from Jet2's perspective.

Also LBA has the route network to allow 767 operations on proving flights i.e AGP/ALC/PMI double daily (757 & 737) so plenty of scope for putting a 767 on without adding any uncessary capacity. Also there is a fair bit of concern over performance issues with the 767 (particuarly the -300) at LBA, so surely its a good idea to find out to start with what the limitations are rather than launch a programme to later find tech stops are needed.

The word is that its 2x 767-300ER (RB-211 variant) to be equipped with winglets, i'm not sure if the RB-211 variant has got certification for winglets yet, time will tell!
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 15:23
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A rather amusing if not hyped story of a 3 hour delay to a Jet2 flight into Newcastle after a passenger dropped her mobile into the air vent of the plane resulting in engineers taking out seats and lifting the nose of the aircraft to locate it

ChronicleLive - News - Today's Chronicle - Plane dismantled as passenger drops mobile in vent
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 15:30
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Whats amusing about it? some moronic pax who cant wait to switch her mobile on drops the thing and this results in a long of work and a long delay, friggin hilarious
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 15:34
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regarding the above story, here is a quote from the article:

They watched as the cockpit area and three rows of seats were taken apart as engineers searched for it.
did they really really take the flightdeck to bits?
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 16:00
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did they really really take the flightdeck to bits?
No, I believe it was one of the QC 733's, so the passengers see the side cargo door open as well as doors 1, this some how translates to non aviation savvy passengers, that the cockpit is been taken apart!

I would have thought it was more of a security risk rather than technological risk to leave the phone onboard?
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 18:19
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JET2 in Dub

Are Jet 2 doing the 757 ACE flights and ski charters again this Winter, any sign of any more permanant routes with them? Fantastic airline and crew to deal with.
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 19:06
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Dublinindispatch are your real initials MP by chance?

I know LS will be doing the PDV charters this winter and I see they had a TLV charter last week, is that to continue? Not sure about the others.

Im sure LS could make a good go at DUB-FUE/SSH/ADB. FUE has 1 scheduled flight a week with EI despite FR proving it can work before they had a fight with FUE and the potential for a scheuled DUB-ADBservice in the summer is huge!
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Old 20th Oct 2009, 20:09
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Dublinindispatch are your real initials MP by chance?
Presumably you mean PM

re Chroniclelive, they should at least learn how to spell Murcia, I may then read the article!

DW.
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 07:28
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Bit I liked was:

“A few of the passengers were getting a bit upset, but most of us just sat and took it because we’re English. We trusted the engineers and the captain’s decision because they’re the professionals."
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 08:24
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Is there any chance of LS placing a B757 next summer in BFS , G-LSAB was in all last summer , went to TFS , MJV , TFS and PMI
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 10:14
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I have a friend in Jet2 ops who has just informed me that

Two Qantas 767-300ERs are currently in Belgrade getting painted in the Jet2 colours, and one will base at LBA and the other at MAN.
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 10:24
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This is rubbish!!! Painting would be the final stage before the aircraft was sent out on the line!! Jet2 would have the aircraft for months before any painting was done.
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 10:42
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Well in that case there in Belgrade having something done, whatever that may be I don't know.
I presumed Belgrade had a painting facility...
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 11:10
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if jet2 are indeed purchasing these 767's, at what point would they need to be registered under the dart group. would they have to have a G- registration before jet2 would be able to do any work on them?

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Old 21st Oct 2009, 14:53
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If they are ex-Qantas and RR 767s, then they will be the ex-BA ones so have already been on the UK register - which helps. If I recall correctly, the BA 767s are quite low weights (181 tonnes) and the RR engines are not great for performance - there were some issues in BA with operating them on certain routes, particularly to Asia - relating to drift-down altitudes en route.
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Old 21st Oct 2009, 16:36
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'Front of House' for JET2

I wonder if someone could answer me a question, at stations where JET2 are based and have a ticket/customer service desk, do they employ their own staff directly or does a Ground Handler / Representation Company look after their desks??
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