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Old 12th Aug 2009, 21:00
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Hi can anyone please tell me what the problem was with this flight today. My mam was on the this flight and said they experienced an 8 hr delay without being told what the problem was. Could someone please shed some light on it please so i can put her mind at rest. Tar.
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I think you are a little biased.
Quite the opposite! There is severe competition between crew and ground staff! We blame everything on them and they blame everything on us! Jokes aside the crew at Jet2 have had a rough deal recently with their SPH targets but I have not met a bunch of more hard working people. (Yes Jet2Krazey thats coming from ground staff!!)

Hi can anyone please tell me what the problem was with this flight today. My mam was on the this flight and said they experienced an 8 hr delay without being told what the problem was. Could someone please shed some light on it please so i can put her mind at rest. Tar.
I believe it was down to Murcia Airport again, The Spanish Airforce have relaxed their flying times over the summer at MJV but the Spanish F1 have moved in while the runway at Albacete airport is being resurfaced. Meaning last minute delays at the airport, the LBA flight only just made it before the Airport changed their plans.

Out of interest was she offered a free flight in compensation?!
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wow

this Ryanair thing has clearly rattled the markets, Jet2 management and the lets be loyal to Jet2 this isn't fair band, i don't recall to many tears being shed when Jet2 went on KLM AMS route or BMI CDG service, both were full service carriers that gave excellent back up if something went wrong, full interline transfer of bags and everthing else that went with that level of service, up pop Ryanair and theres a riot on Pprune

I can't explain how Ryanair manages to grow its business by 19% in a full blown receesion and remain profitable despite some poor judgement on Aer Lingus shares, they fly brand new aircraft, have non existant customer care and everyone knows they will be trapped at every turn, its like having sex with a hooker with a fantastic body, you know you run the risk of a dose, but you think it wont be you

Jet2 have a good name, but not a patch on what it was before they started turning a profit, sure the luggage thing is a good angle, but a difficult sell non the less, there are some who will never get on a Ryanair plane if they can avoid it, 67million will and i bet a 1million plus will at Leeds next year

Just chil, up your game look after your customers and for Jet2 that means looking after your staff as well, Ryanair staff don't give a toss, why should they the company don't give a toss about them or the customers!!
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Old 12th Aug 2009, 21:36
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Just spoke to the mother and all was offered was a 7 quid food voucher and was apparantley told the reason was aircraft out of position on the flight. But havin suffered a 5 hr delay myself earlier in the yr due to the spanish air force doing their loop de loops over mjv i suspected that this may have been the reason.
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G-LSAC

G-LSAC went tech today on way to RHO, maybe that has something to do with the MJV delay, The aircraft is still in Zargreb where it diverted to! pax were flown on with a sub charter! I know the morning MJV landed back ontime before going out to BCN, hope this helps!
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Old 12th Aug 2009, 23:47
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on the jet2 webiste its currently sayin that you cant book flights until 01:30 doees this mean they could e adding destinations
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Old 12th Aug 2009, 23:49
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What does a suffix 'Q' denote on the end of an LS flight number.
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What does a suffix 'Q' denote on the end of an LS flight number.
'Quality'.

It's so you can differentiate them from the Ryanair flights, now that the 2 airlines are running some of the same routes.
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What does a suffix 'Q' denote on the end of an LS flight number.
Nothing sinister. It's to avoid ATC confusion of flights with similar call signs:eg LS123 and LS523 could sound similar, so one will have a "Q" added. Hence you now have LS123 and LS523Q - makes a lot of difference when you are listening out.

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Old 13th Aug 2009, 08:04
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Quebec

I think "Q" is added to a flight number to show an amendment or change to the original flightplan. Usually, its for a change of route or tech stop. However, in this case ATC may have requested a change to the callsign to avoid conflict.
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 09:03
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Nice one 'harrogate' very appropriate.

Thanks 'dwshimoda' and 'galaxy68' for the 'Q' explanations.

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and was apparantley told the reason was aircraft out of position on the flight.
I suspect the explanation given to your mother was not entirely truthful.

The aircraft that operated the delayed 07.40 MAN-MJV route yesterday actually operated the 06.55 service to PMI first. The aircraft returned to MAN at 13.43 then departed to MJV at 15.05.
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 09:59
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Galaxy...

I think "Q" is added to a flight number to show an amendment or change to the original flightplan. Usually, its for a change of route or tech stop. However, in this case ATC may have requested a change to the callsign to avoid conflict.
Trust me - this is wrong. You will find quite a few of the regular LS schedules have a Q added - nearly always when you have similar call signs going to similar destinations, at the same time - eg Leeds, Manchester & Newcastle flights ont he way to Tenerife within a few minutes of each other.

It has nothing to do with an amended flight plan.

TSR2 - you are welcome.
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dwshimoda... have you any factual evidence? I actually used to file flight plans, (but procedures may have changed, hence I said "I think"). Just because it happens regularly, only means that the stored flight plan has been amended at some stage.
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 10:56
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The flight that I referred to with the 'Q' suffix is LS831 which is recorded as EXS831Q on a daily basis.

I note there is a departure within 5 mins of this flight with the flight number 381 although a different airline.

Perhaps on this occasion the 'Q' suffix is to minimise confusion with flight numbers.
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TSR2, spot on. Often the LS343 and LS353 both leave at the same time resulting in a Q following. Purely to avoid confusion.

This morning, due to tech 757 G-LSAC two 733's have done the LBA-PMI this morning, the LS257 and the LS027Q.

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Old 13th Aug 2009, 12:28
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Galaxy...

dwshimoda... have you any factual evidence? I actually used to file flight plans, (but procedures may have changed, hence I said "I think"). Just because it happens regularly, only means that the stored flight plan has been amended at some stage.
Only in as much as I sit in the pointy end of these 757's - does that qualify me enough to give the correct answer?

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Old 13th Aug 2009, 15:37
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Only in as much as I sit in the pointy end of these 757's - does that qualify me enough to give the correct answer?

DW.


Looks like game, set & match ? ! ! ?

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Old 13th Aug 2009, 16:20
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Jet2

In respect of the potential Jet2 v Ryainair battle, then the winner would be the one who can offer a fare on the first screen of the booking engine that is the price you pay. For example, Leeds - Malaga, £75 including check in, payment fee, suitcases etc. How easy would that be? I have also in the past found fares with BA ex Manchester or Birmingham to be cheaper than any of the low cost carriers and a straight forward fare displayed.

It is increasingly difficult for us to compare fares on a true like for like bases.

I have experience of both airlines and must say that I have never been more than a few minutes late with Jet2, with Ryanair being equally punctual. I have had trouble at EMA though when checking in with a bag that was ever so slightly overweight. I know rules are rules though.

If a battle does ensue at Leeds, then I see the larger operator being the winner. Look at similar cases in the past, with airlines, bus operators, ferry operators and so on.
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 16:43
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"Q"

DW, if the addition of Quebec is not as I have suggested, perhaps you could enlighten us all please?
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 17:28
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DW, if the addition of Quebec is not as I have suggested, perhaps you could enlighten us all please?
From where I am reading, he already has. He posted at 03.08 & 10.59 then backed that up by saying he is an active pilot, as opposed to 'Used to file flight plans'
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