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Old 22nd Dec 2013, 01:12
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Tiny bit spotter yeah
Rhymes with "pants on fire".
The Eastern schedules were pretty business friendly and the aircraft was a Jetstream 41. When the introductory pricing offer from LCY expired the charges went up and losses were too much to bear.
BA need to keep enough of the point to point traffic via LHR to keep the frequency up to keep connections viable to long haul. If traffic falls, any dilution of that point to point traffic (to a new LCY service) may impact numbers and further reduce frequency and make connections less attractive.

Careful what you wish for.

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Old 22nd Dec 2013, 06:35
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Eastern did originally use a leased Do328 on LCY, and there were reliability issues. However LCY is pretty niche and Eastern survive on niche, so doubt whether advertising/awareness was the issue.

However NCL-LHR pax dropping? Any evidence for this? There are constant small fluctuations up and down month on month and BA are always tailoring the flight schedule in terms of number of flights and a/c size - the odd rotation being added or removed throughout the year means nothing.
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Old 22nd Dec 2013, 10:05
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I believe that the NCL-LHR route is actually showing an overall increase year on year, with loads regularly over 90%.

Now, how many of those are transferring to other flights, I suspect only BA will know the answer.
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Old 27th Dec 2013, 15:12
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IOM-LCY

BA still haven't released the IOM-LCY updated schedule from S14 onwards. It is still showing as one flight a day when they announced the service was back to three daily a month ago. I would of thought they would of got this in the booking engine fairly quickly, not long till the end of MAR14 now!
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Old 27th Dec 2013, 16:05
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You only have the word of a local shopkeeper that this is going to happen. Nothing official from BA, as far as I am aware. That will be why it's not available to book yet.

BTW, I think you probably meant to say, "I would have thought......." That's the end of today's English lesson!
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Old 27th Dec 2013, 16:29
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I saw the official announcement on BBC website, it said something like full details in coming weeks, so I guess in the new year?
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Old 27th Dec 2013, 16:44
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No, I think what you saw was this:-

BBC News - British Airways confirms Isle of Man-London service

It is just the BBC repeating what the spokesperson for IOMG said. I am pretty sure that nothing has been released on behalf of BA, which is why you can't book the flights.

I'm not saying it isn't going to happen, just that the operator hasn't confirmed the details yet.
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Old 29th Dec 2013, 23:09
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LCY-IOM Will increase to 3 a day. BACF are just waiting to finalise the schedule before releasing flight details. The flights are due to increase from March.

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Old 21st Jan 2014, 18:03
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Two in May and the other in Sep according to Jethro's
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 18:09
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September delivery might be brought forward.
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 19:48
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with passenger numbers dropping on NCL-LHR
Seriously? Everytime I have travelled down it's been fairly busy. The early morning flight is almost always full.
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Old 21st Jan 2014, 21:44
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Also to add to the mix.....LHR - NCL is always one of the first flights to be cancelled if there are any problems at LHR...if Dec is the evidence of falling pax numbers, I'm sure there were a few cancelled flights during that month.
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 18:11
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I think you'll find that NCL-LHR is one of the first cancelled flights with a lot of other domestic flights...

Reduced take off slots at LHR due to disruption naturally means they're gonna cancel domestic/short haul routes before the long haul routes for obvious reasons.

Just because a route gets cancelled often in disruption it doesn't mean it's not a profitable or popular route! There's a lot more reasons, anyways, especially financially.
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 23:05
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LCY-IOM Will increase to 3 a day. BACF are just waiting to finalise the schedule before releasing flight details. The flights are due to increase from March.
I see the flights are to be operated by a second leased S2000 from T3.
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 23:44
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Why do they choose T3, the saabs are constantly going tech and look awful in the cabin. I suppose there aren't many regional operators left with aircraft to fly into LCY
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 02:22
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Why do they choose T3, the saabs are constantly going tech and look awful in the cabin. I suppose there aren't many regional operators left with aircraft to fly into LCY
I was suprised to see that BACF are planning to use the S20 on the IOM route. Didn't BACF reduce the frequency from 3 to 1 x daily due to poor yields and loads?.

Have BACF had many problems with G-CDEB going tech since it began operating on the LCY-DUS route?.
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Micro gaming have underwritten it for the IOM route with BA as they say it's a vital link.

I dont know about the DUS route but it was constantly tech out of the Rock last summer and aircraft swaps galore.
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Old 23rd Jan 2014, 09:13
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Didn't BACF reduce the frequency from 3 to 1 x daily due to poor yields and loads?.
The game changer was when flybe announced they were dropping IOM-LGW.
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http://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/microgaming-underwrites-ba-london-city-route/

Let's hope people use it
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Old 15th Apr 2014, 16:45
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Apparently it's only on a five month lease from Eastern.

If the route fails to make the returns that BA need, it can be easily repainted back into Eastern colours if returned.
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