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Volareweb is to scrap its MXP-MAN service from 8th Jan.
it hasn't proved popular since the beginning...very disappointing LF registered on this route so far.
it hasn't proved popular since the beginning...very disappointing LF registered on this route so far.
I hope they've at least axed Rotterdam as well, the loads on that were even worse than MAN...
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Does todays statement hint at MAN ??? ...
EasyJet has announced six new routes for next year, as part of its continuing expansion plans.
David Osborne, the budget airline's UK general manager, said: "easyJet will launch 18 new routes over the next few months from our bases across the UK and we will shortly announce further expansion, re-enforcing our position as the UK's largest airline."
The 6 new routes are:
- Bristol to Biarritz
- Bristol to Olbia
- Bristol to Split
- Edinburgh to Nice
- Glasgow to Faro
- Luton to Pisa
EasyJet has announced six new routes for next year, as part of its continuing expansion plans.
David Osborne, the budget airline's UK general manager, said: "easyJet will launch 18 new routes over the next few months from our bases across the UK and we will shortly announce further expansion, re-enforcing our position as the UK's largest airline."
The 6 new routes are:
- Bristol to Biarritz
- Bristol to Olbia
- Bristol to Split
- Edinburgh to Nice
- Glasgow to Faro
- Luton to Pisa
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I hope they've at least axed Rotterdam as well, the loads on that were even worse than MAN...
For me too bad load factor and a plane too large for this route (A320)
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Volareweb - I had my suspicions that this one wouldn't last long, still its a shame to lose any service. The Manchester - Milan route is littered with those who have tried and failed over the years, Volareweb, Alitalia (tried numerous times since the 60's I believe), Jet 2, Lauda Italy and if my memory still serves me correctly didn't KLM UK have a very short lived attempt at MXP? The only success seems to have come from BA then BE.
Maybe this particular route can only sustain one carrier?
Also had an email from Jet2 advising of their summer 08 offering from MAN, reading it confirms suspicions that the likes of SXF, TLS, VLC, BCN, AMS amongst others are not set to return.
Maybe this particular route can only sustain one carrier?
Also had an email from Jet2 advising of their summer 08 offering from MAN, reading it confirms suspicions that the likes of SXF, TLS, VLC, BCN, AMS amongst others are not set to return.
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It's a blessing you don't work for the samaritans!
I do not think I'm any more important than anyone else, though I suspect from your heartfelt reply you believe you are. If you don't work for MAG in a senior management role you should you seem to have everything they look for.
All I want to do is come to work, be paid fairly for what I do(which for the most part I am at the moment) pay my mortgage, maintain my standard of living and hopefully be able to afford two weeks in the sun with my family. I feel that is not much to ask for and we usually manage it. If we have to take all the cuts Ringways management want then things in my family would have to change. Is that the way forward? It obviously suits your "I'm allright Jack" attitude but maybe for once try thinking "out of the box" say like a human being! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT?
I hope nothing like this happens to you( I should do really- but I'm not like that!) I think we'd hear the whining over the aircraft on all three terminals!
Hope your accountant brings you everthing you asked for, Merry Christmas Mr Scrooge!
It's a blessing you don't work for the samaritans!
I do not think I'm any more important than anyone else, though I suspect from your heartfelt reply you believe you are. If you don't work for MAG in a senior management role you should you seem to have everything they look for.
All I want to do is come to work, be paid fairly for what I do(which for the most part I am at the moment) pay my mortgage, maintain my standard of living and hopefully be able to afford two weeks in the sun with my family. I feel that is not much to ask for and we usually manage it. If we have to take all the cuts Ringways management want then things in my family would have to change. Is that the way forward? It obviously suits your "I'm allright Jack" attitude but maybe for once try thinking "out of the box" say like a human being! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT?
I hope nothing like this happens to you( I should do really- but I'm not like that!) I think we'd hear the whining over the aircraft on all three terminals!
Hope your accountant brings you everthing you asked for, Merry Christmas Mr Scrooge!
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Volareweb launched its service to MAN at very short notice with virtually no publicity at the slowest time of year. Their advance booking window was close to non-existent at launch; its surprising that they had any passengers at all. Whilst sorry to see a MAN service fail, this one comes as no surprise. With business acumen like this, I hope that no manager from Volareweb ever works for a company close to my heart!
easyJet have apparently reached an agreement with LPL which will enable them to fly from Manchester as well. The deal basically means that both sides ignore the "exclusivity clause" as long as easyJet services from LPL continue to grow and that expansion at MAN isn't to the detriment of services from LPL.
Announcement should take place shortly. Supposedly three based a/c at MAN to operate BFS x 3 daily and daily services to AGP, BRU, TLS, HAM, PMI, and RAK. Outside-based aircraft to operate daily MAD, LYS, MXP and GVA. Only surprise is no sign of SXF.
Will lead to an interesting increase in pressure on bmibaby and Jet2 at MAN.
Announcement should take place shortly. Supposedly three based a/c at MAN to operate BFS x 3 daily and daily services to AGP, BRU, TLS, HAM, PMI, and RAK. Outside-based aircraft to operate daily MAD, LYS, MXP and GVA. Only surprise is no sign of SXF.
Will lead to an interesting increase in pressure on bmibaby and Jet2 at MAN.
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Well, we know that Jet2 have reduced services already. Their presence at MAN will be reduced further by the arrival of easyJet as I don't see them willing to compete. However, I don't think they will leave the airport completely. They will stick to tried and tested bucket-and-spade routes and possibly increase their sunshine offerings through Jet2 Holidays. There's been a lot of talk recently regarding them starting up long haul flights but personally I don't see it myself. I guess time will tell.
Bmibaby should be ok. They have a nice niche of routes and a small 'fan base' to go with them. If EZY do start BFS then I would say this is their only cause of concern. They won't expand services much out of MAN but I would say this would be the case anyway regardless of whether or not easyJet arrive. Having said that, an article on their website implies that new routes ex MAN are soon to be announced. Any idea's what these might be?
Bmibaby should be ok. They have a nice niche of routes and a small 'fan base' to go with them. If EZY do start BFS then I would say this is their only cause of concern. They won't expand services much out of MAN but I would say this would be the case anyway regardless of whether or not easyJet arrive. Having said that, an article on their website implies that new routes ex MAN are soon to be announced. Any idea's what these might be?
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Could be a few other carriers watching their backs if the U2 routes suggested by Flightrider come off...... BD with LYS, AB with their HAM service and TOM with their RAK route.
Expect some possible blood-letting with prices on PMI and BFS. Very welcome return of the MAD route too if it all comes off.
Expect some possible blood-letting with prices on PMI and BFS. Very welcome return of the MAD route too if it all comes off.
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What is to happen with the current routes from the airport? Will they carry on operating these or will the be withdrawn?
Also, I'm guessing that they will be basing at least 1 A320/1 at the airport in the 3? Operating to AGP and PMI in an A319 is not what we would expect from the 'UK biggest airline' if other operators are using B752 minimum with other types such as A330/B767 in July/August.
Hope we do see them on the MAD route, would probably be able to fill A320s comfortably.
Do we know which terminal the airline will use? T1? Or will MAN try to get them into T3 before the supposed big shake up where locos go T3?
Will be good to see EZY at MAN, just hope that the other carriers stick with their routes and keep competition to a high. We don't want MAN turning into EZY city!
Cheers.
Also, I'm guessing that they will be basing at least 1 A320/1 at the airport in the 3? Operating to AGP and PMI in an A319 is not what we would expect from the 'UK biggest airline' if other operators are using B752 minimum with other types such as A330/B767 in July/August.
Hope we do see them on the MAD route, would probably be able to fill A320s comfortably.
Do we know which terminal the airline will use? T1? Or will MAN try to get them into T3 before the supposed big shake up where locos go T3?
Will be good to see EZY at MAN, just hope that the other carriers stick with their routes and keep competition to a high. We don't want MAN turning into EZY city!
Cheers.
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Also, I'm guessing that they will be basing at least 1 A320/1 at the airport in the 3? Operating to AGP and PMI in an A319 is not what we would expect from the 'UK biggest airline' if other operators are using B752 minimum with other types such as A330/B767 in July/August.
As ezy only have 2 types of AC, I would presume 319/73
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If EZY are to come to MAN, will it cause FR to take any action? Will they increase their presence at LPL or maybe look at MAN?
Surely FR don't want to fall behind in the North of England with EZY taking an even bigger stance in the region?
So - could we see more routes from LPL? BLK? New MAN base? Or could we see no reaction from FR - UNLIKELY!
I think we are in for a exciting few months.
Expect:
EZY base at MAN.
FR retaliation!
Surely FR don't want to fall behind in the North of England with EZY taking an even bigger stance in the region?
So - could we see more routes from LPL? BLK? New MAN base? Or could we see no reaction from FR - UNLIKELY!
I think we are in for a exciting few months.
Expect:
EZY base at MAN.
FR retaliation!
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Are we going to have a price war in the north west for "bums on seats" with so many carriers on the popular med routes from LPL, MAN, BLK and LBA. Their catchment areas overlap and with the credit crunch will people not be able to take 2nd/3rd holiday. Will the loco market then have to reduce flights and some airlines go out of business?
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Shame there going but maybe is was the timing of there flights that didnt help either, 1 flight at 20:10 which was late most of the time.
Maybe an early morning flight, then the late night one might have proved better, but with BE putting there new 195 on the route in the afternoon gave them alot more to think about.
Maybe an early morning flight, then the late night one might have proved better, but with BE putting there new 195 on the route in the afternoon gave them alot more to think about.
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If EZY come to MAN they are bound to impact on others who operate to similar destinations. Their brand is recognised throughout Europe and it is a good LCC product. Be interesting to see how things develop. Hopefully peak slot constraints won't be an issue regarding any expansion plans as any MAN based aircraft will need peak morning departure slots to ensure full aircraft utilisation for the day.