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Old 23rd Oct 2007, 19:02
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NE

NE Will not be going daily this winter as advertised. Will be1 3 5 7 at different times

MAPLC winter timetable now online. As usual full of errors

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Old 23rd Oct 2007, 21:26
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I was always told, when suggesting splitting the terminals by scheduled/charter, that they needed to have a mixed profile, because otherwise the peaks and troughs would be all wrong, i.e. the sched terminal would have morning and eve peaks and be quiet all day, and the charter terminal would be busy all night and go dead in the afternoons.

T2 is mad busy in the mornings with the long haul sched stuff, as is T1 with all its Euro sched. Put the two together in one terminal - chaos, when the other one'll be dead.

So what's changed to make this idea viable?

It's a great idea if it works though. My reasoning for doing it was so MA could profile shops/cafes/lounges etc. to passenger types - chrome and glass palaces selling electricals and Starbucks in one, and vulgar emporia selling buckets and spades, cheap booze, plastic sunglasses and chips with everything in the other.
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Old 23rd Oct 2007, 21:30
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T1 is really nowhere near adequate for the flag carriers, B pier is a otal tip and needs bulldozing and rebuilding. Indeed, is reports are true that it is the only pier capable of an A380 dock, then we should see this.


The new upper level food court looks good though and I would ercommend Giraffe's two courses for £6.95! Great to have a waiter service resto in T1 airside.
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 21:10
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Some good news

Taken from another site Finnair are to increase the number of flights from Manchester with a night stopping flight building up to 6 a week
Flights are already on Finnair website

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Looks like Etihad are increasing flights to 10 per week, with 3 evening departures, according to another popular airport news website.
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 08:31
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Easy at MAN

Now that EasyJet are taking over Gibair, looks like we will be set to see EZY at MAN after all.
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 08:53
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Would be interesting having easy at man, especially if they come in on some of the bucket and spade routes, with frequencies like they do at liverpool, should upset the apple cart for the likes of baby, monarch and jet 2 and to thomson as well. e.g u can do a day trip to malaga from lpl leaving 6am and return 10/11pm at moment, although reading statment from all companies not much is mentiond about manchester, by either easy or BA, cant really see BA launching any (sun) routes from man, so will that be them virtually gone from man after march?

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Old 25th Oct 2007, 08:59
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Code 100 Etihad are not currently going 10 a week, they are just moving 3 flights from morning to evening flights, much like Qatar.
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 09:03
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I wouldn't place a bet that easyjet are going to stick with their ex-GB routes from MAN, although they are a far more efficient airline in terms of staffing and aircraft costs (which might help any business case)
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 09:22
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Thanks, barno2007, for correcting the EY 'news'.

Why do a lot of people want to see MAN turn orange? If GB do disappear, then we will have even less of BA representation, even though we will still have NY and Billund internationally! Is there any other country in the world that has its so called 'national' airline represent its regions so poorly.

Good luck to U2 if they come, but at what price? How many smaller budget airlines would MAN lose?
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 09:22
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Although easy might want to keep a foot in Manchester it would not make good business sense to compete with themselves out of LPL.
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 16:29
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Although easy might want to keep a foot in Manchester it would not make good business sense to compete with themselves out of LPL.
But a COMPLEMETARY set of routes would be great and would make good sense. EZY already operate from airports close together such as STN/LTN and GLA/EDI.

I'm sure there is also some route duplication at these pairs of airports on routes where the demand exists.

So it will be interesting to see how this one pans out.

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Old 25th Oct 2007, 18:10
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EZY

I think if they kept the MAN station open and started to expand Jet2 would pack their bags back to Leeds in a flash..... the scaling back at MAN in favour of LBA has in effect already started.

Could be interesting times indeed for the current crop of locos at MAN!
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Thanks, barno2007, for correcting the EY 'news'.

Why do a lot of people want to see MAN turn orange? If GB do disappear, then we will have even less of BA representation, even though we will still have NY and Billund internationally! Is there any other country in the world that has its so called 'national' airline represent its regions so poorly.

Good luck to U2 if they come, but at what price? How many smaller budget airlines would MAN lose?




Please get over the whole BA thing. Most of us don't give a toss about them being at MAN, I would be glad to see the back of them completely, and hopefully that day will come soon!

As for the effect it will have on other carriers if U2 did come to MAN, well hopefully it'd give them a proper kick up the arse!
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 19:53
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Please get over the whole BA thing. Most of us don't give a toss about them being at MAN, I would be glad to see the back of them completely, and hopefully that day will come soon!

I don't think we'll have to wait long..... I'd be surprised if Sun Air lasted much longer as a BA franchise, the BA franchise airlines are dropping like flies!

JFK is very much on borrowed time IMO, I'm surprised its lasted this long!

You may have to put up with LHR and LGW from MAN though
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 22:19
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BA seem to be very pleased with the "contribution" that both Sunair of Scandinavia (as opposed to any airline with a similar name) and Comair are doing. As for JFK, we know they are trying their best to get off the route given it's the odd-one-out for their long-haul operations, but it steadfastly refuses to make a loss. At least we can assume that it is, given that it's not disappeared and BA likes to chop loss-making elements of thier business!
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 22:19
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As the 'venerable' Suzeman has indicated, EZY operate similar flights from 2 cities/airports that are close together and without any apparant problems.

It will indeed be interesting to see what develops over the coming months. Without wanting to create too much excitement, I do recall when easyJet were looking at a Manchester operation a couple of years ago, it was - I believe - a lack of slots that was one of the deciding factors against their starting. Now with the withdrawal of a number of early morning flights it might be possible for a more complete schedule to be offered by easyJet.

The one thing that I have never understood is the 'contract' that the airline has with Liverpool. Does it totally forbid them from commencing a Manchester opration if they wish to or does it just tie them into a certain level of flights from Liverpool?

Finally, and on a slightly different tack, I would refer to the decision of Finnair to commence an overnighting Helsinki flight into Manchester. Since the Summer 08 IATA Slot Conference is not due to held until 10th-13th November, how can the airline know what times it has been granted?

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Old 25th Oct 2007, 22:28
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Come on, let's get some perspective here.

GB Airways operate 2 or 3 flights a day out of Manchester to a maximum of 5 weekly destinations.

You can hardly describe it as a base, let alone a foothold for massive EZY expansion that either would or wouldn't have happened anyway.
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 22:36
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Like Scottie Dog, I've love to see what's in the easyJet and LPL agreement. Having said that, contracts are there to be broken - witness BA and GB Airways. Something happened to their contract today...
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 22:51
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Ringwayman.......I would be pleased as well if I were BA....mentioning Sunair...Our Company used to have a base in Skive which is just north of Billund and we used to take the flight a few times a month as we had a contract and a warehouse over there supporting the telecom industry.
Flights I seem to remember at the time were around the 400 quid mark return!!!
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