DURHAM TEES VALLEY AIRPORT - 4

[paarmo]

Kent...Surrey it's all the same to us Picts. Mind you at least we can spell place names correctly. I suppose Stig was an achievement in spelling to someone who spells Middlesbrough incorrectly.

[stop, stop, stop]

BMI are going to replace the 145 with a 135 come the new year. With most flights to LHR operating full or practically full on the 145 then putting the 135 on simply proves that BMI don't care how many pax's they turn away and are only operating the route with the SOLE intention of keeping the slot open.

What a shame.

[Bartrams]

DTV pax figures

Says it all really?

Some general observations
1) Figs are for total number of pax transiting through the terminal each month.
2) Several thousand MoD charter pax will also be included across some 2007, and all the 2008, figs. If these were omitted, the actual number of
‘normal’ business and holiday pax for these years are actually worse than those published.
3) The figs for the remainder of 2008 are guesstimates, based on previous years trends, so the full year total looks like falling somewhere between
650k to 675k at best. If correct, we can say goodbye to any terminal expansion plans in the near future. The existing building can certainly
cope with the 30% less passengers than there were 3 years ago.
4) The main holiday period from May 08 to Aug 08 is flat, showing no growth at all compared to the same period in previous years, only
averaging around 72k per month.
5) What should be the busiest month, Aug 08, is down 36,000 pax (33%) compared to Aug 06, and nearly 23,000 down (23%) on Aug 07.
6) The effects of the bmibaby withdrawal from Nov 06 on is seen in the corresponding reduction in pax numbers before GSM gradually got
their act together in April/ May 07.



2008 FIGURES

SEPTEMBER PASSENGER FIGURES

Total pax for September: 69589 (-18% on the same period last year [NCL -13%])

ABZ 2959 +9% (2725) [NCL only managed 1615]
AGP 3568 -40% (5941)
ALC 8139 +16% (6993)
AMS 10589 +2% (10351) [LBA -3%, NCL -5%]
BJV 1895 +85% (1021)
BOJ 1438 -43% (2529)
DLM 3332 -15% (3928)
DUB 4348 -9% (4801) [NCL -20%]
FAO 2420 +21% (1999) [LBA -14%, NCL -28%]
GRO 4425 +12% (3940)
IBZ 2454 -24% (3237)
JER 909 -19% (1121)
LHR 7063 +7% (6591) [MME only domestic LHR route to grow in September]
MAH 1932 -35% (2959)
NQY 62
PMI 8132 -34% (12299)
REU 2137 -19% (2653)
WAW 1166 -65% (3348)

Well, the figures are either very very healthy or very very poor, mostly the latter. Good to see our 'business' routes doing well, with a lot of ours performing better statistically compared to LBA and NCL, although they carry more total pax on the routes. This is where the management seem to be focusing on, and it shows we still have our strengths, but sadly this is not enough!!

AUGUST PASSENGER FIGURES

Total pax for August: 73999 (-24.2% on the same period last year)

ABZ 2487 -10% (2766)
ACE 1363 -20% (1712)
AGP 3216 -52% (6674)
ALC 8234 -3% (8521)
AMS 10293 -9% (11259) [LBA -8%, NCL -9%]
BJV 2385 +11% (2146)
BOJ 1305 -41% (2221)
BRU 0 -100% (275)
BSR 212 +100% (0)
CFU 0 -100% (1637)
DLM 3362 -41% (5678)
DUB 5925 -12% (6704) [LBA -5%, NCL -22%]
FAO 2308 -16% (2749)
GLA 48
GRO 4254 +7% (3984)
IBZ 3175 -25% (4255)
JER 1407 +43% (987)
LBA 0 -100% (169)
LCA 0 -100% (1753)
LDE 431 +100% (0)
LHR: 6473 -2% (6600)
MAH 1427 -27% (1958)
MAN 56
NCE 0 -100% (1053)
PFO 0 -100% (1816)
PMI 8707 -38% (14120)
REU 2734 +10% (2496)
SOU 25
TFS 1413 -4% (1468)
WAW 2632 -29% (3714)

Very, very worrying indeed, but whereas the above total figure is compared to the previous year, we're up compared to the previous month (below).

JULY PAX FIGURES

Total pax for July: 71105 (-21.2% on the same period last year)

The above figure looks worse than it is, because if you break down the statistics, this is what you get:

ABZ 2910 (+5%)
ACE 417 (-70%)
AGP 3288 (-44%)
ALC 9438 (+3%)
AMS 10361 (+1% - NCL/LBA-AMS down 8% [nearly 2K pax])
BGR 129
BJV 2776 (+65% - NCL/LBA-BJV saw a big drop)
BOJ 707 (-63%)
BRU 15 (-98%)
BSR 207
DLM 3755 (+1% - NCL/LBA-DLM saw a big drop)
DUB 5208 (+/- 0% - NCL-DUB down 25% [nearly 5K pax], LBA down 2%)
FAO 2226 (-15% - NCL-FAO down 26%)
GLA 10
GRO 4573 (+12%)
IBZ 1703 (-60%)
JER 947 (+1% - 80% load factor)
LBA 150
LHR: 7377 (+8% - only us and MAN which are up)
MAH 1162 (-49%)
OSL 125 (+6%)
PMI 7479 (-45%)
REU 2566 (-12%)
TFS 1146 (-38%)
WAW 2716 (+17% - 84% load factor, not comparable I know but NCL-KRK down 37%)
YQX 127
Thanks to the excellent DTV movement page for details.

[skyman771]

the full year total looks like falling somewhere between
650k to 675k at best

With cost pressures already evident in dealing with snow & ice, the potential departure of GSM & many factors suggesting that 2009 is not going to be good year for the UK then presumably someone has amended the DTV business plan? If so what in real terms is the break even pax no.'s & can this figure feasibly be reduced by further cost cuts & if so where ?
To ask another pertinent question then are the girls capable of decision making, or alternatively then what are they doing ?
NB the brief isolated comments seeking some comfort from the 3 months Pax no.'s above relating to comparitive percentages with NCL, LBA or elsewhere, in isolation mean absolutely nothing. Many instances are merely a reflection of less flights & as such say nothing about pax revenue & load factors. In reality DTV has had clueless management over a number of years headed by owners who appear to have taken little interest. This downward spiral needs to be broken but with DTV's track record as bad as any then things appear bleak

[DB5]

'general observations'

What Bartrams fails to say in his post is that the ‘general observations’ were my comments that went with an associated graph and table of monthly pax numbers for the last 3 years showing the ongoing drop in pax between Jan 2006 and now.
I compiled the figs and the graph for another website that is run by, and for, the benefit of local enthusiasts, and for the reason Skyman identified. – pax figures for a single month can be made to prove or disprove anything when comparing with other airports / operators.

Perhaps my own stuff, including the ‘guesstimated’ 675K figs for the full year, makes no sense either, but as above, it was just my own interpretation of public info available at the time. I’m sure those who know a lot more than me can come up with a completely different figure. However, regardless of the effects of the credit crunch, fuel prices, etc. there’s no disputing that pax numbers will have dropped by around 25% to 30% since Miss Management and her clueless colleagues rolled into town.

[paarmo]

Lies,damned lies and statistics

Whilst the passenger stats are interesting they do not really tell the full story. The losses and gains in percentage terms and numbers to various destinations must be equated to the number of flights being flown or pulled. The so called "bucket and spade" flights are still reasonably healthy when the flights are available. The business and commuter flights have a life of their own and provide high yields as most passengers travel at short notice and on company monies. To maintain a viable business the management must increase the onsite spend of passengers and it is recognised that holiday passengers spend much more than business/commuter passengers. Please can someone make Thomas Cook and Tui an offer they can't refuse to entice them to the airport.

[highwideandugly]

Some good news!

well on a small scale!! Looks like Northern Aviation who currently operate BE200's are getting a Citation jet!! All is not lost??

[Ellsam]

Highwideandugly I must ask why?

In the words of the smiths "what difference does it make"

The place is a great place to work from I have done it, but baby and g'span leaving?

A new toy coming for Northern Aviation in the whole context a none event me thinks?

[10 DME ARC]

well on a small scale!! Looks like Northern Aviation who currently operate BE200's are getting a Citation jet!! All is not lost??

Rumours going around NCL is it is to be based here!?

[paarmo]

Overheard something today which suggests a new loco for MME. Sworn to secrecy but something will happen in next 7/10 days.

[davidjohnson6]

7 to 10 days you say ?

This wouldn't perhaps be a niche air carrier arriving almost exactly 9 days after you're post, with the method of propulsion consuming grass, lichen and moss rather than jet fuel ? Presumably rather than artificial lights on the aircraft, it has a natural bright red one instead...

[Midland 331]

Barbie jets on the LHR! Crikey, we used to stuff 92 pax onto a small "nine" for the 331, and regularly filled the -32 series.

(OK, so it was 1983...)

[N707ZS]

Paarmo
Its an old story it includes a star in the east, a stable (the terminal) three not so wise men and some shepards possibly the builders, and a Virgin birth. 7/10 days.

[DTVAirport]

Paarmo, as much as I'd love you to be right, like anything else surrounding our beloved field - I'll believe it when I can see and/or touch it.

[skyman771]

Overheard something today which suggests a new loco for MME. Sworn to secrecy

Crikey really dramatic stuff Not too consistent this, minding ones business, overhears something that results in being aprehended and sworn to secrecy or else...... yawn...........................Lucky they didn't just terminate you

[paarmo]

O ye of little faith

Trust me on this. I overheard a conversation about a huge customer base with quick turnarounds and being time critical. Low overheads.Regular timetabling. Poss a Scanwegian connection and best of all a secrecy clause. Well the two executives I overheard were talking in code as they always do and they called it an s clause.
So Mr clevercogs DJ and Skyman what else could it be but a loco.

[HH6702]

new based airline

the only airline i can think of would be Ryanair!

the only problem i can see is that they stop gerona and alicante for the winter so somehow i cant see ryanair even making a go at dtv!
maybe summer base only at a push

good luck i hope that im wrong

[DB5]

Local radio this morning

A couple of very disgruntled punters on BBC Tees this morning bemoaning the current state of affairs at MME, i.e. lack of flights, continual lack of destination choice, always having to travel to Newcastle, etc.
No lesser person than Peel’s Deputy Chief Exec replied with the usual cr*p that local radio never have the ability to question; it’s not our fault, there’s been a recession for the last three months, completely skirted around whether GSM would be there or not in 2009. The only positive thing he could find to say was the usual ‘we’re in talks with a number of potential operators’ (aren’t they always), the price of car parking has been reduced, and that KLM have increased capacity from an F70 to an F100 to AMS, which is what it used to be anyway !!

Oh, and he indicated there’s yet another master plan for MME (must be up to at least version 87 by now) to be unveiled early in the New Year, this one covering the next 25 years. If management continue to run things as they’ve done for the last two or three years, we’ll be lucky to see it still functioning as an airport in 25 months. But perhaps that’s what the new master plan is ?

[dwlpl]

Trust me on this. I overheard a conversation about a huge customer base with quick turnarounds and being time critical. Low overheads.Regular timetabling. Poss a Scanwegian connection and best of all a secrecy clause. Well the two executives I overheard were talking in code as they always do and they called it an s clause.

So Mr clevercogs DJ and Skyman what else could it be but a loco.

As in Santa Claus.

[Richard Taylor]

Shhh.....

But I heard on the grapevine that this new operator are leasing in three aircraft for these new routes:

SA-NTA
D-EERS
C-AROL

May just be a freight operation though...