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The radar was the Ekco ARAA and it was in use at SEN for about 30 years. In effect it was an SRA to 1/2 nm.
Google "Ekco ARAA" and you will find a very good article on the development of this unit, plus a link to a 1960 Ekco promotional film.
And this was from a BEA Flight Ops magazine after BEA's first significant use of SEN as a LHR diversion in 1958:
In all weathers, come what may, they work the one man GCA.
The sound of Viscounts makes them cower, those stalwarts in their soapbox tower
Google "Ekco ARAA" and you will find a very good article on the development of this unit, plus a link to a 1960 Ekco promotional film.
And this was from a BEA Flight Ops magazine after BEA's first significant use of SEN as a LHR diversion in 1958:
In all weathers, come what may, they work the one man GCA.
The sound of Viscounts makes them cower, those stalwarts in their soapbox tower
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Unless my ears deceive me, a 757 landed (empty for service) this morning, sounded like he used all the available space.
Was anyone else listening later at around 1600?
Reason I ask is that a female student landed and she had an incredibly young voice. Sounded about 8 years old!
Was anyone else listening later at around 1600?
Reason I ask is that a female student landed and she had an incredibly young voice. Sounded about 8 years old!
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It seems that Stobart are after raising £120million in the markets:
http://www.stobartgroup.co.uk/Images...2021_04_11.pdf
The main bit of interest is reproduced below:
Airports*Division*(“Stobart*Airports”)
This division consists of LSA and CLDA. Some of the Placing and Open Offer proceeds will be used to develop the new distribution centre at CLDA and complete the ongoing work at LSA.
The Directors expect this will, respectively, achieve annual operational cost savings of around £1 million for Eddie Stobart and generate a development profit for Stobart Estates.
In addition, the division is in discussions with a number of European airlines. Any agreements with these airlines could result in a requirement to complete LSA to a higher specification and build a hotel. The
additional funding that has been earmarked by the Company for LSA is dependant on the signing of a significant contract with a low cost European airline.
The Group intends to grow Stobart Airports significantly including the ongoing development at LSA in time for the 2012 Olympics.
The Directors believe that LSA will be able to develop new routes and
attract new operators over the next few years, with the aim of servicing between 2 and 2.5 million passengers annually.
The Group will also pursue air freight, maintenance and airport service
opportunities at LSA, including airport retail, private facilities, lounges and fees generated from the rail terminal, which will provide up to eight services an hour direct to London Liverpool Street.
Additionally, the Directors believe that CLDA can eventually be developed and could act as a link for scheduled services to and from LSA. Until such time as CLDA is fully developed for passenger transport,
it will continue to provide cost savings for the Eddie Stobart division, as well as generating revenues from ancillary airport services.
Alastair Welch will head Stobart Airports and it is anticipated that future performance can be benchmarked against other airport operations.
http://www.stobartgroup.co.uk/Images...2021_04_11.pdf
The main bit of interest is reproduced below:
Airports*Division*(“Stobart*Airports”)
This division consists of LSA and CLDA. Some of the Placing and Open Offer proceeds will be used to develop the new distribution centre at CLDA and complete the ongoing work at LSA.
The Directors expect this will, respectively, achieve annual operational cost savings of around £1 million for Eddie Stobart and generate a development profit for Stobart Estates.
In addition, the division is in discussions with a number of European airlines. Any agreements with these airlines could result in a requirement to complete LSA to a higher specification and build a hotel. The
additional funding that has been earmarked by the Company for LSA is dependant on the signing of a significant contract with a low cost European airline.
The Group intends to grow Stobart Airports significantly including the ongoing development at LSA in time for the 2012 Olympics.
The Directors believe that LSA will be able to develop new routes and
attract new operators over the next few years, with the aim of servicing between 2 and 2.5 million passengers annually.
The Group will also pursue air freight, maintenance and airport service
opportunities at LSA, including airport retail, private facilities, lounges and fees generated from the rail terminal, which will provide up to eight services an hour direct to London Liverpool Street.
Additionally, the Directors believe that CLDA can eventually be developed and could act as a link for scheduled services to and from LSA. Until such time as CLDA is fully developed for passenger transport,
it will continue to provide cost savings for the Eddie Stobart division, as well as generating revenues from ancillary airport services.
Alastair Welch will head Stobart Airports and it is anticipated that future performance can be benchmarked against other airport operations.
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Further expansion at southend
It also stated in another part of the document that a total of up to 25 million pounds would be needed to further develop both Southend and Carlisle Airports. WOW.
It then hoped to develop a scheduled service between the two airports (a real money spinner that - I don't think so) and also increase services from Southend subject to a large contract signed by a European low cost carrier - we all know what has happened to a number of regional airports recently which threw in their lot with the locos.
May I say that the 2012 Olympics was brought up yet again - have people realised that it only lasts for a couple of weeks and probably extra passengers for four weeks at the most. Unfortunately some people think it is a panacea for a number of UK airports - I beg to disagree. Also 2.5 million passengers - may I ask where are they going to come from? I won't hold my breath - sorry but just my honest opinion having observed aviation very closely over the last 40 years.
Anyway Happy Easter to all C3B.
It then hoped to develop a scheduled service between the two airports (a real money spinner that - I don't think so) and also increase services from Southend subject to a large contract signed by a European low cost carrier - we all know what has happened to a number of regional airports recently which threw in their lot with the locos.
May I say that the 2012 Olympics was brought up yet again - have people realised that it only lasts for a couple of weeks and probably extra passengers for four weeks at the most. Unfortunately some people think it is a panacea for a number of UK airports - I beg to disagree. Also 2.5 million passengers - may I ask where are they going to come from? I won't hold my breath - sorry but just my honest opinion having observed aviation very closely over the last 40 years.
Anyway Happy Easter to all C3B.
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I have a mere 40 years in the business and also have wondered from the outset from where these customers are going to come, The industry is also static and STN will have to gain a lot more business in the future to fullfill its plans.
Excepted that the rail link is good but this is offset by the road systems which the council seem more intend on making worse !
I hope SEN does well and we doubters are proved wrong ?
Excepted that the rail link is good but this is offset by the road systems which the council seem more intend on making worse !
I hope SEN does well and we doubters are proved wrong ?
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HZ123,
That's kind of like saying that MAN will have to gain a lot more business to fullfill it's plans before there is a need for a LPL!
LPL, despite it's close proximity to MAN, is doing very nicely, should there be any reason why SEN cannot become a LPL of the south ... despite a somewhat shorter runway the subject of which has already been flogged to death?
That's kind of like saying that MAN will have to gain a lot more business to fullfill it's plans before there is a need for a LPL!
LPL, despite it's close proximity to MAN, is doing very nicely, should there be any reason why SEN cannot become a LPL of the south ... despite a somewhat shorter runway the subject of which has already been flogged to death?
As yet another with "40 years in the business" (45 years actually) I can see where they hope the business will come from and that is largely inbound European traffic.
Over the past year I have represented one such airport in discussions with both existing and start-up airlines and their enthusiasm for SEN has been a consistent feature. One European airline with firm plans for SEN sees 70% of its traffic being of inbound origin and one of the start-ups is making a similar assumption for its proposed routes.
I believe that the rapid transit times that SEN will be able to offer the traveller means it will get the nod above STN as a London arrival point, and HZ123 is rather unfair about the road system. The recently opened Progress Road improvements on the A127 have reduced delays considerably in my experience and the new link road to the A127 due to open in a couple of months will also make a difference.
Just how much influence continued high fuel prices will have I'm not sure, but a 10% to 20% saving in flight times from, say, CGN compared to using any other London airport will surely become a consideration.
Over the past year I have represented one such airport in discussions with both existing and start-up airlines and their enthusiasm for SEN has been a consistent feature. One European airline with firm plans for SEN sees 70% of its traffic being of inbound origin and one of the start-ups is making a similar assumption for its proposed routes.
I believe that the rapid transit times that SEN will be able to offer the traveller means it will get the nod above STN as a London arrival point, and HZ123 is rather unfair about the road system. The recently opened Progress Road improvements on the A127 have reduced delays considerably in my experience and the new link road to the A127 due to open in a couple of months will also make a difference.
Just how much influence continued high fuel prices will have I'm not sure, but a 10% to 20% saving in flight times from, say, CGN compared to using any other London airport will surely become a consideration.
Who's flyiing schedules in 2011?
Is there anywhere (reliable) that I can find out who might be doing scheduled services to/from Southend? I tried the official website, but it seems to be dated 2010 & all it seems to have for 2011 is a link to FlyBe for flights to & from Jersey. Not a lot of good if you're looking for weekend flights from & to north of the border.
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The Southend website has always struck me as being poorly maintained and neglected.
It's always been the last place I would look for information and I had hoped that might change when Stobart took over but if anything it seems to have been kicked further into the long grass.
It's always been the last place I would look for information and I had hoped that might change when Stobart took over but if anything it seems to have been kicked further into the long grass.
Yes, I'm sorry to have to agree the SEN websites are very disappointing - the so-called 'new' 2012 website being so out of date it's really not worth looking at. I'm really surprised that they don't seem to have anyone who's tasked with updating them properly.
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Vulcanised, it was updated recently.
Though it could do with a bit more info.
London Southend Airport
now has arrival and departure info, so they are listening. (haven't looked at it for ages till today)
The airports face book page is better for updates.
Though it could do with a bit more info.
London Southend Airport
now has arrival and departure info, so they are listening. (haven't looked at it for ages till today)
The airports face book page is better for updates.
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it was updated recently
"The rail service at present stops at nearby Rochford Station, a short 5 minute taxi ride from the airport, but when the airport station is opened in 2009, the journey time from the airport to Stratford (for Docklands) will be 42 minutes and to central London will be 50 minutes."
Clearly they haven't had a look at that page for a while...!
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I see that somebody living in Cumbria is objecting to the development......
A fresh bid to halt runway
The 'other forum' has more links to maybe explain the possible motives
News & Star | News | Stobart boss Tinkler 'wins' Carlisle Airport legal case
Stobart's Andrew Tinkler sued for libel by ex-employee
Only lawyers get rich
A fresh bid to halt runway
The 'other forum' has more links to maybe explain the possible motives
News & Star | News | Stobart boss Tinkler 'wins' Carlisle Airport legal case
Stobart's Andrew Tinkler sued for libel by ex-employee
Only lawyers get rich
An Easyjet A319 arrived at SEN this morning and is currently parked on the apron with an Eddie Stobart lorry parked either side of it. Looks like it's all set up for a photo shoot. Interesting...........
Just the one Easyjet aircraft so I understand. The runway blockage was a Bandit with a tyre burst I believe.
By all accounts the photo shoot was pretty comprehensive including aerial photography from a Jet Ranger.
By all accounts the photo shoot was pretty comprehensive including aerial photography from a Jet Ranger.
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Buster the Bear posted info months back that Easyjet would do Southend flights. It sounds like that is about to become official news by the sounds of it.
I would reckon if EZY go to Southend, they will not duplicate STN flights but may look at some markets where FR go to out of town airports and offer flights to the primary airports in those cities. Just a thought. At Stansted EZY have introduced and developed routes that dont seem to interest Ryanair e.g Slovenia, Talinn and some further afield routes like Split Munich and Dubrovnik, destinations that Ryanair dont look at.
SEN might be attractive in that FR unlikely to fly there!!!
Good luck to Easyjet!!!
I would reckon if EZY go to Southend, they will not duplicate STN flights but may look at some markets where FR go to out of town airports and offer flights to the primary airports in those cities. Just a thought. At Stansted EZY have introduced and developed routes that dont seem to interest Ryanair e.g Slovenia, Talinn and some further afield routes like Split Munich and Dubrovnik, destinations that Ryanair dont look at.
SEN might be attractive in that FR unlikely to fly there!!!
Good luck to Easyjet!!!