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Q) EGTT/QFALC/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5134N00042E005
B) FROM: 11/03/04 12:00C) TO: 11/03/21 12:00
E) AD CLOSED DUE RWY WIP. NO ACFT MOVEMENTS PERMITTED.
SCHEDULE: FRI 1200-MON 1200
I believe it is to closed to allow for installation of improved runway lighting including centreline lighting.
B) FROM: 11/03/04 12:00C) TO: 11/03/21 12:00
E) AD CLOSED DUE RWY WIP. NO ACFT MOVEMENTS PERMITTED.
SCHEDULE: FRI 1200-MON 1200
I believe it is to closed to allow for installation of improved runway lighting including centreline lighting.
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How right you are! Don't know why but I misremembered that as April closures.
Good job a certain airline don't have a presence there - we might have folk knocking on doors offering to resurface the drive with tarmac 'left over from a job round the corner'.
Good job a certain airline don't have a presence there - we might have folk knocking on doors offering to resurface the drive with tarmac 'left over from a job round the corner'.
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If they take as long as they have on the A127,and town centre"improvements" it will be closed ad infinitum,only way to improve southend would be to flatten it(the town that is)
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Congratulations on a unique trick SEN & Stobart's ..... extend a runway but just not quite long enough for Irish registered B737-800's to come polluting your nice new shiny airport.
Has the airfield got any room for potato fields? If so then concrete these areas over and be PDQ about it.
Has the airfield got any room for potato fields? If so then concrete these areas over and be PDQ about it.
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Easy jet implemented this suggestion - Get Satisfaction website
I posted an idea on the easyjet section of the Get satisfaction website some time ago. The idea was replied to by a member of easyjet staff and then subsequently removed. This prompted local news paper reports to qoute the easyjet official response along with the leader of the anti-expansion group SAEN making a few comments of his own.
I very much enjoyed the effect my idea had had so posted it again. This promted a different treply and remains on the website. However, this time the page has the line added that the company has implemented this suggestion????
Continuing the rumous, does this mean we will see the white and orange airbus's in and out of Southend? I hope so anyway!
I very much enjoyed the effect my idea had had so posted it again. This promted a different treply and remains on the website. However, this time the page has the line added that the company has implemented this suggestion????
Continuing the rumous, does this mean we will see the white and orange airbus's in and out of Southend? I hope so anyway!
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Easyjet implemented this suggestion
Here are those links:
www.saen.org.uk/2010/08/easyjet-unlikely-to-use-southend-airport
www.echo-news.co.uk/.../8368919.EasyJet____unlikely____to_fly_into_Southend
www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/.../Southend...(southend.../8368919.EasyJet____unlikely____to_fly_into_Southend/
And my new post on the get satisfaction website:
Great prospects at London Southend Airport!
www.saen.org.uk/2010/08/easyjet-unlikely-to-use-southend-airport
www.echo-news.co.uk/.../8368919.EasyJet____unlikely____to_fly_into_Southend
www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/.../Southend...(southend.../8368919.EasyJet____unlikely____to_fly_into_Southend/
And my new post on the get satisfaction website:
Great prospects at London Southend Airport!
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According to my information which has come from 2 reliable sources, the chances are high. As with everything and this is a rumour network, this could change.
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Continuing the rumous, does this mean we will see the white and orange airbus's in and out of Southend? I hope so anyway!
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The airport believes that it is possible for A319s to operate 1000nm sectors from the extended runway. Why would 'NorthSouth' know any better? The runway extension is proving to be an extremely difficult and also costly affair. Why would a company as prudent as Stobart be incorrect with their expectations for aircraft performance on the extended runway?
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airferries,
Did Stobart really decide upon the new runway dimensions based upon the aircraft type that one particular airline operates?
If so then Stobart made one hell of a mistake ... Once upon a time UK had a thriving airliner production industry, but they produced to BEA/BOAC requirements whilst the Yanks produced to worldwide requirements ..... precisely how many VC10's sold in comparison to how many B707's & DC8's sold?
A 1,000 mile range might suit an amount of LCC routes but it pretty much rules out a mainstream IT operator moving in .... "Yes, we can operate to Spain on Saturdays and Wednesdays but you can rule out Canaries, Greece, Cyprus, North Africa etc. on the other days of the week cos the runway ain't long enough!"
But NorthSouth does seem to have a bee in his bonnet, a grudge to bear!
Did Stobart really decide upon the new runway dimensions based upon the aircraft type that one particular airline operates?
If so then Stobart made one hell of a mistake ... Once upon a time UK had a thriving airliner production industry, but they produced to BEA/BOAC requirements whilst the Yanks produced to worldwide requirements ..... precisely how many VC10's sold in comparison to how many B707's & DC8's sold?
A 1,000 mile range might suit an amount of LCC routes but it pretty much rules out a mainstream IT operator moving in .... "Yes, we can operate to Spain on Saturdays and Wednesdays but you can rule out Canaries, Greece, Cyprus, North Africa etc. on the other days of the week cos the runway ain't long enough!"
But NorthSouth does seem to have a bee in his bonnet, a grudge to bear!
I believe the physical length of the runway extension was limited to that which would still allow a 240m RESA beyond it and this produced distances which happened to coincide with the maximum declared TODA of 1,799m for a Code 3C runway, which its 37m width dictates it must remain. The actual paved length will be 1,937m
I've understood for some time that Easyjet regard a TODA of 1,800m as their minimum for normal operations, while ops into airfields with less than that are for ad hoc ops only, with the Captain as PF. Perhaps someone at Easyjet can confirm if that is true.
I'm sure there are many destinations within 1,000nm that they would find commercially attractive.
I've understood for some time that Easyjet regard a TODA of 1,800m as their minimum for normal operations, while ops into airfields with less than that are for ad hoc ops only, with the Captain as PF. Perhaps someone at Easyjet can confirm if that is true.
I'm sure there are many destinations within 1,000nm that they would find commercially attractive.
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posted by Humberside on the airhumberside site a little while ago.
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If anyone's interested within a 1200nm range is Iceland, Romania, Bulgaria, Corfu, Tunisia and Morocco
Great Circle Mapper
Within a 1000nm range, most of Western Europe can be reached, but Helsinki, Croatia and Sicilly are about the limit. Very little of Northern Africa can be reached
Great Circle Mapper
And taking the middle of Expressflight's estinmate, 1100nm, the range limits appears to Minsk, Albania and Northern Morocco. Map isn't the clearest but Corfu may just be within range
Great Circle Mapper
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If anyone's interested within a 1200nm range is Iceland, Romania, Bulgaria, Corfu, Tunisia and Morocco
Great Circle Mapper
Within a 1000nm range, most of Western Europe can be reached, but Helsinki, Croatia and Sicilly are about the limit. Very little of Northern Africa can be reached
Great Circle Mapper
And taking the middle of Expressflight's estinmate, 1100nm, the range limits appears to Minsk, Albania and Northern Morocco. Map isn't the clearest but Corfu may just be within range
Great Circle Mapper
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Expressflight,
Sure there are many LCC routes within 1,000NM (ish) but to develop such a base an airline is likely to want the facility to develop it as much as poosible by offering a broadest spectrum of routes from it's route network.
Furthermore, EZY already has two north London (ish) bases, both will full facilities and both can serve as an alternate for each other, do they need a third north of London (ish) base and/or do they move from one of those existing bases to SEN which may only serve as an alternate for the other base in the event that the aircraft's next destination is less than 1,000NM (ish) away?
The answer to all of these could be "yes" but why should it be "yes" when SEN simply can't provide the flexibility that an existing base already provides?
Sure there are many LCC routes within 1,000NM (ish) but to develop such a base an airline is likely to want the facility to develop it as much as poosible by offering a broadest spectrum of routes from it's route network.
Furthermore, EZY already has two north London (ish) bases, both will full facilities and both can serve as an alternate for each other, do they need a third north of London (ish) base and/or do they move from one of those existing bases to SEN which may only serve as an alternate for the other base in the event that the aircraft's next destination is less than 1,000NM (ish) away?
The answer to all of these could be "yes" but why should it be "yes" when SEN simply can't provide the flexibility that an existing base already provides?
I'm not sure anyone has actually suggested that Easyjet will establish a base at SEN, and I'm certainly not privvy to their thoughts on the matter.
I can't see them moving from either LTN or STN to SEN but they may see it offering additional opportunities; not least because it offers the unique advantage of ensuring there is no direct competition from Ryanair.
By the way, SEN lies directly East of London, not North (ish).
I can't see them moving from either LTN or STN to SEN but they may see it offering additional opportunities; not least because it offers the unique advantage of ensuring there is no direct competition from Ryanair.
By the way, SEN lies directly East of London, not North (ish).
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Expressflight,
I've never travelled, nor had any thought of travelling, with EZY thus I'm somewhat ignorant of their route structure etc. but I'm guessing that some destinations are served from LTN, different destinations served from STN, and some destinations served from both LTN and STN.
So what are they meant to do out of SEN? Any routes they move from STN (or LTN) will allow the opportunity for a competitor to fill the breach and were they to duplicate some already served destinations from LTN/STN to SEN then they'd be splitting the passengers within very similar catchment areas which, I'm estimating, would result in lower, all round, load factors.
I'd have thought the new SEN would be better off attracting close continent flag carrier regional, CRJ, AvroRJ, Fokker/Embraer regional jets etc, aircraft operations in to SEN to offer services to the close continent and for onward worldwide connections, this is the sort of traffic most UK regional airports offer so why not SEN?
I've never travelled, nor had any thought of travelling, with EZY thus I'm somewhat ignorant of their route structure etc. but I'm guessing that some destinations are served from LTN, different destinations served from STN, and some destinations served from both LTN and STN.
So what are they meant to do out of SEN? Any routes they move from STN (or LTN) will allow the opportunity for a competitor to fill the breach and were they to duplicate some already served destinations from LTN/STN to SEN then they'd be splitting the passengers within very similar catchment areas which, I'm estimating, would result in lower, all round, load factors.
I'd have thought the new SEN would be better off attracting close continent flag carrier regional, CRJ, AvroRJ, Fokker/Embraer regional jets etc, aircraft operations in to SEN to offer services to the close continent and for onward worldwide connections, this is the sort of traffic most UK regional airports offer so why not SEN?