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It is a barrier to investment in regions outside Dublin.
That's probably understandable considering it's the only place in the country where transport issues will actually sway votes. However, with the parish pump nature of Irish politics, they have promoted the interests of their local area.
Now, Shannon Airport was a good example of how a point of access could perversely become a barrier. Dublin Airport isn't really.
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Late evening check-in for early morning flights is being made available. Anyone on a EI flight departing between 6am-8am will be able to check baggage between 4pm-7.30pm the previous evening.Where a group is travelling only one person need turn up but must have tickets and passports for all travelling.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...rt-336296.html
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...rt-336296.html
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You almost couldn't make it up.
Advertising for the Prague route has now appeared on the side of buses after it has been cancelled.
Imagine if it had been done 2 months ago when it was needed.
http://twitter.com/FlyFromCORK/status/610489352133693442/photo/1
Advertising for the Prague route has now appeared on the side of buses after it has been cancelled.
Imagine if it had been done 2 months ago when it was needed.
http://twitter.com/FlyFromCORK/status/610489352133693442/photo/1
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Cityjet plan LCY from September according to a reliable journalist in Cork.
https://twitter.com/EoinBearla/statu...50799412035584
A route that can deliver numbers without impacting massively on others.
https://twitter.com/EoinBearla/statu...50799412035584
A route that can deliver numbers without impacting massively on others.
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It will be interesting to see how this goes.
The fares will put off a lot of people, but if there's one route that could possibly sustain itself from point-to-point business passengers that is it.
Against that, it was said that when Jetmagic tried it that business passengers wouldn't move away from Aer Lingus because of frequent flyer programs and the like (not that Gold Circle is good for anything other than earning lounge access).
The other advantage for a new entrant is that it's not a route that Ryanair can impact by dumping capacity or cheap fares onto it. They can't fly into LCY and any passenger who is choosing the route isn't price-sensitive anyway.
The fares will put off a lot of people, but if there's one route that could possibly sustain itself from point-to-point business passengers that is it.
Against that, it was said that when Jetmagic tried it that business passengers wouldn't move away from Aer Lingus because of frequent flyer programs and the like (not that Gold Circle is good for anything other than earning lounge access).
The other advantage for a new entrant is that it's not a route that Ryanair can impact by dumping capacity or cheap fares onto it. They can't fly into LCY and any passenger who is choosing the route isn't price-sensitive anyway.
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This will be interesting, and I wish them well. I do wonder about the demand, though. They won't be stimulating much more travel (I don't see that many Cork business people who'll be hugely increasing their frequency of trips to London on the basis of this) so it'll surely be largely cannibalising existing EI/FR traffic (especially EI)?
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Hopefully this will do well. It will be interesting to see how EI and FR respond, maybe more frequency and lower fares, good in the short term, but longer term maybe not. Unfortunately I don't travel to LON from cork, but if I did I'd happily support the route, it's succes is key to the future of the airport.
My concern is that if LCY fails, ORK will have three route failures out of four (assuming DUS is actually launched), both failures by non-based airlines, which sends a terrible signal. Over the years wizzAir and easyJet haven't done well at ORK either.
At the minute FR are offering a very erratic schedule to LPL, with no Friday flights in August. Fares are rock bottom on the other days too, at about £45 return. EI Regional must be minting on the MAN route, return fares are well over £150 return MAN-ORK-MAN frequently.
My concern is that if LCY fails, ORK will have three route failures out of four (assuming DUS is actually launched), both failures by non-based airlines, which sends a terrible signal. Over the years wizzAir and easyJet haven't done well at ORK either.
At the minute FR are offering a very erratic schedule to LPL, with no Friday flights in August. Fares are rock bottom on the other days too, at about £45 return. EI Regional must be minting on the MAN route, return fares are well over £150 return MAN-ORK-MAN frequently.
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EI regional always were and will always be ridiculously expensive.
The thing is, I'm not sure LCY is the right route. It won't really grow traffic, unlike other European routes. Living here in Clare, I wouldn't travel to ORK for a London route, what's the point when I'm already well connected from SNN? Whereas for eg, a Lisbon route, I would travel to Cork for.
The thing is, I'm not sure LCY is the right route. It won't really grow traffic, unlike other European routes. Living here in Clare, I wouldn't travel to ORK for a London route, what's the point when I'm already well connected from SNN? Whereas for eg, a Lisbon route, I would travel to Cork for.
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"EI regional always were and will always be ridiculously expensive.
The thing is, I'm not sure LCY is the right route. It won't really grow traffic, unlike other European routes. Living here in Clare, I wouldn't travel to ORK for a London route, what's the point when I'm already well connected from SNN? Whereas for eg, a Lisbon route, I would travel to Cork for." Unquote
I don't agree that it won't grow traffic. The introduction of competition has shown in the past that it stimulates new demand. The London route has settled into a cosy cartel between FR and EI so i'm sure a new London entrant will have an impact on existing fares and offers, all resulting in overall growth.
"EI regional always were and will always be ridiculously expensive.
The thing is, I'm not sure LCY is the right route. It won't really grow traffic, unlike other European routes. Living here in Clare, I wouldn't travel to ORK for a London route, what's the point when I'm already well connected from SNN? Whereas for eg, a Lisbon route, I would travel to Cork for." Unquote
I don't agree that it won't grow traffic. The introduction of competition has shown in the past that it stimulates new demand. The London route has settled into a cosy cartel between FR and EI so i'm sure a new London entrant will have an impact on existing fares and offers, all resulting in overall growth.
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Where will the growth come from? Will people from Dublin/Limerick/Galway suddenly decide to fly ORK-LON? No, very few will. Will 100,000 extra Londoners suddenly decided to visit Cork? No they won't.
Ryanair will still be alot cheaper, Cityjet realistically will only be Competing with EI, which they will steal passengers from.
I can't see growth coming from anywhere?
Ryanair will still be alot cheaper, Cityjet realistically will only be Competing with EI, which they will steal passengers from.
I can't see growth coming from anywhere?
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Where will the growth come from? Will people from Dublin/Limerick/Galway suddenly decide to fly ORK-LON? No, very few will. Will 100,000 extra Londoners suddenly decided to visit Cork? No they won't.
Ryanair will still be alot cheaper, Cityjet realistically will only be Competing with EI, which they will steal passengers from.
I can't see growth coming from anywhere?
Ryanair will still be alot cheaper, Cityjet realistically will only be Competing with EI, which they will steal passengers from.
I can't see growth coming from anywhere?
FR will come off worse if WX have the right price structure. An ATR or F50 would be best aircraft in terms of cost.