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Old 27th Jan 2015, 20:46
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Well said Jack I think it will be better for Cork
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 20:49
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Jack, my concern is that IAG may not want to feed lucrative long haul and shorthaul business traffic to KLM and their Skyteam partners. I can't see ORK AMS being viable as a daily point to point style route if we lose the Skyteam code share traffic. I'm hoping my fears will prove to be unfounded but if the recent history of Cork Airport is anything to go by this development is going to lead to more difficulties.
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 21:20
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Ryan, I understand where you are coming from. But if EI end up in IAG, the existing KL agreement is unlike anyother in IAG but similar to the agreement between KL (SkyTeam) and MH (Oneworld). I highly doubt IAG would say to EI, "oh you know that total of 14 daily slots (Up to 7 daily services) you hold at AMS? We're not allowing you feed KL with them anymore." That would reduce the demand massively from DUB, nevermind from ORK. The fact is EI hopefully will continue with an independent operational management team, allowing this to continue. But I gaurantee you in no way shape or form will IAG allow KL metal on those routes, the status-quo will continue.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 00:33
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I agree with Jack, giving KLM an excuse to return directly to the Irish market would be a massive gaff. Far better to keep that codeshare running and get a slice of the pie. I'd also expect MAD (largest European gateway to Latin America unsurprisingly) to start by either EI or IB, Although possibly at the expense of BRU
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Old 11th Feb 2015, 07:32
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Subsidy urged for Cork to Dublin flights | Irish Examiner

So the DAAs solution to falling traffic is to.....(drumroll).....connect it to Dublin. This has to be the laziest thing I've seen in a long time. In the days of the previous link, those 600k pax looked great for pax numbers but the reality was they didn't spend much and the charges would have to be low/free to get the route reintroduced.

Is this more about Dublin garnering the transfer pax now going through CDG, AMS and LHR?
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Old 11th Feb 2015, 09:45
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It sounds like ORK-DUB is not commercially viable, if they want subsidy. Like the EI sale to IAG its a route I have mixed feelings about. On one had it would be great for connecting onwards to the US to make use of pre-clearance, to get to the middle east and further afield and the bigger European network offered from Dublin. The Cork passenger already has all these options through LHR/AMS/CDG(even MAN and BHX to a lesser extent) though, so in reality it wouldn't add much.

Could any air service compete with the coach service already there? Whats the difference really?
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 17:33
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Very interesting reading in to-days Irish Independent on figures on flights from ORK/LHR and SNN/LHR with Aer LINGUS and Ryanair ORK/STN and SNN/STN
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 18:37
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ORK doing well, probably in the absence of routes elsewhere.
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 18:45
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I can find any reference on-line, does anyone have a copy of the figures?
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 19:02
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Ork/lhr 397,867 snn/lhr under 232,000


ork/stn 256,672 snn/stn 201,337
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 18:20
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Just saw on the Save Cork Airport F/B that there is going to be a direct service to Ibiza. It's a charter by Trave, agent .ie. No idea who's airline is being used. All night time flights, departing Cork at 0.15 and returning early morning, very early morning.Still, nice to have some good news for a change.
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 18:46
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CSA is the airline
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 18:47
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Flights are with CSA.Making good use of their Thursday and Sunday Nightstopper.
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 12:28
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ORK-IBZ-ORK 0015-0350/0440-0615 OK320/1 listed in Amadeus
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 12:51
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Appears Flybe will operate a twice weekly Cardiff service from September.
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 13:20
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Fair play to Cork! 3 new routes for 2015, compared to 1 for Shannon.
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 14:59
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The details given on the Cardiff thread have it only operating for 2 months in September and October. That's a period when the rugby world cup is on and Ireland have at least 2 matches in Cardiff, with probably a 3rd should they qualify from the group.

That said, it seems to start 2 weeks before the world cup, and operate on weekends when Ireland won't be playing in Cardiff, so it may be a case of watch this space.
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 15:10
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Don't think Flybe have any schedules past 24 October online yet.
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 08:12
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Flybe website shows Cardiff starting 6 June and running once weekly before increasing to 2 in September.
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 09:16
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More detail here, at least it good news this week for a change.Airline to announce new service to Cork and Dublin | Irish Examiner
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