CORK - 5

[Jack1985]

The amount of airlines, routes and frequencies per week Cork has lost between now and 2007 has been 35% but people know well the 35% didn't occur overnight as impression the Examiner tries to give, a former Cork paper you'd expect better from them

[francis omahony]

lost flights

maybe not overnight but since the goverment appointed people came in they have lost quite a lot

[Jack1985]

maybe not overnight but since the goverment appointed people came in they have lost quite a lot

Care to enlighten us to these appointed people? the reason traffic has collapsed at Cork is due to this Government and the shambles that was the one before them, is they all consistently contradict themselves.

''Cork with its new Terminal and facilities will be Independent and debt free''
Its nor debt free, nor Independent.

''If we get the Irish People to elect us to Government we will create real reform and change, the Tourism sector will be over-hauled starting with Airports and they elimination of the hypocritical Travel Tax''
We haven't seen much reform or change, and vaguely none in the tourism sector, hotels and restaurants have all reduced prices to stay afloat nothing at all to do with the Government all though they like to think so. The Regulator has reduced taxes at airports by 40% no doubt due to the comments by both CEO's at Aer Lingus and Ryanair about both their futures at Dublin Airport which made the DAA think fast. The €3 ''hypocritical Travel Tax'' remains.

It looks like declines have bottomed out at both Dublin and Cork but real reform is needed to see passenger numbers return to what they were. Also in relation to current passenger numbers there are a number of factors people should remember comparing to this time last year;

*High reduction in Ryanair flights, most flights now operated by Cork based aircraft. Dublin and Faro (Now Seasonal) routes axed.
*Loss of Twice daily flights to Belfast City by Manx2 although passenger numbers account for very little, high number of movements involved.
*Net Loss of one weekly flight by Wizz Air due to a reduction in most Polish routes by one weekly service.
*Loss of most Charter flights except weekly Lanzarote flight by Iberworld.

Aer Lingus have actually increased capacity this Winter although this wont be reflected in passenger numbers.

[francis omahony]

I agree with most of what you say but when the late joe gantley and the new board appointed by ff politicans when they left john smyth go it was the start of the rot from which it is only now recovering

[Jack1985]

I agree with most of what you say but when the late joe gantley and the new board appointed by ff politicans when they left john smyth go it was the start of the rot from which it is only now recovering

Apologies, I forgot to even think of the shambles that is known as the Cork Airport Authority. The fact Gerry Walsh is now Chairman of the CAA is another issue altogether.

[francis omahony]

bad service

how much longer must the Cork airport passengers have to put up with the awful aerlingus regional service flights arriving the next day not a week go by that a flight is not delayed they must have run out of excuses by now

[brian_dromey]

Aer Lingus are well aware of the issues with EIR. CM was in Cork recently and accounted for some of the delays being due to the loss of one EIR aircraft at SNN, this left them with no operational spare for the EIR network. This is changing as all of the RE fleet will shortly sport EIR livery.

My advice would be to write to EI and if/when EI refuse to pay appropriate compensation (€250 for each cancelled service) refer to the UK CAA / Irish IAA. Unless individuals chase EI for compensation due, things will not change. With the utmost respect, posting on a forum is much less useful than sending EI a letter, you are much more likely to see a response by contacting the airline directly.

[ryan2000]

To be fair, the introduction of routes like Milan, Brussels and Pisa has given Cork passengers more of a choice this year. In my view there is way too much capacity to the Iberian Peninsula. This year EI, FR and Monarch will have 11 flights per week to Faro, double the amount that existed during the boom. Southampton, East Midlands, Leeds and Cardiff should have some potential for revival. Does anyone know why Servisair have stopped using the airports solitary airbridge or why Aerlingus' policy towards the use of airbridges at Cork differs from every other airport they fly in to?

[francis omahony]

shannon airport future lies in cargo

the ceo avolon told ennis chamber of commerce (what most corkionans) know for a long time that shannon future is not in passenger traffic but in cargo
I do not think that will not work either if it did it would be there long ago

[aer lingus]

They'v been talking about that for the last few years, I doubt if any thing is going to come from it which is a pity, considering it has the longest runway in Ireland, both north and south.

[ryan2000]

Is there a ban on adhoc Cargo flights at Cork? We haven't had a freighter here for years apart from Fedex ATR's. Cork was never very busy with Cargo flights but there were many freighters here when Aerlingus were doing 3rd party handling and by the way does anyone know where the high loader is gone to?

[francis omahony]

cork cargo

all cork cargo go by road to dublin shannon and rosslare for years

[francis omahony]

longest runway

runway length does not matter when you have no one to use it

[dublinaviator]

Originally Posted by brian_dromey

Aer Lingus are well aware of the issues with EIR. CM was in Cork recently and accounted for some of the delays being due to the loss of one EIR aircraft at SNN, this left them with no operational spare for the EIR network. This is changing as all of the RE fleet will shortly sport EIR livery.

My advice would be to write to EI and if/when EI refuse to pay appropriate compensation (€250 for each cancelled service) refer to the UK CAA / Irish IAA. Unless individuals chase EI for compensation due, things will not change. With the utmost respect, posting on a forum is much less useful than sending EI a letter, you are much more likely to see a response by contacting the airline directly.

With all due respect, thats bad advice because people will get nowhere by complaining to Aer Lingus. All EIR flights are operated by Aer Arann, so they're the ones responsible for compensation in the event of any delays or cancellations. So people should contact Aer Arann and take up their claims with them.

[brian_dromey]

Originally Posted by dublinaviator

With all due respect, thats bad advice because people will get nowhere by complaining to Aer Lingus. All EIR flights are operated by Aer Arann, so they're the ones responsible for compensation in the event of any delays or cancellations. So people should contact Aer Arann and take up their claims with them.

You should probably tell that to EI customer care, who have compensated me in the past for delays experienced while travelling on EIR.

I agree that this is slightly unclear and the responsibility would fall to RE, in the case of a standard code-share. However, the EIR flights are effectively wet-leases to Aer Lingus. The ticketing and marketing airline is Aer Lingus and as such, they take over all customer related interactions, from reservations to baggage handling. The tickets and boarding cards are issued under standard Aer Lingus conditions of carriage. This is much more comprehensive than a standard code-share agreement and with this type of set-up the usual procedure is to contact the "mainline".

[EI-A330-300]

This year EI, FR and Monarch will have 11 flights per week to Faro, double the amount that existed during the boom

Ryanair have canceled the third weekly flight now.

[ryan2000]

New Cargo depot has opened at Cork Airport. It must be the Number 1 airport on the Island of Ireland for trucking cargo to competitor airports. I bet the percentage of cargo that originates in Cork and gets flown from the airport is in low single figures. Of course much of this is due to the failure to invest in Cargo infrastructure and in the high parking charges .As a result the revenue fron parking fees is now practicaly nil.

[irishbcn]

I know that not all the winter schedule has been loaded yet but no sign of BCN.

[840]

They could be waiting to see what happens with Ryanair. I doubt there's room for two Winter operators from Cork to Barcelona or nearby.

[Charlie Roy]

Aer Lingus winter 2012/13

So far on sale:

• London LHR/LGW
• Amsterdam
• Paris
• Malaga
• Lanzarote

Interesting to see when the others come on sale.