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Any further developements on the rumours that were circulating a while back regarding Menzies Aviation coming to NCL as a ground agent? Numerous comments being made over contracts etc?
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CO at Newcastle or not
Well this forum is perhaps wrong, unless of course CO are trying to confuse everybody by telling everybody its not going to happen, why would they?
Also if it was going to happen next year would the seats not already by on sale, remember this time last year AA had announced the flights for SO6, released some, sold some and pulled the route by now. I suspect the other forum is complete guess work on the part of someone.
Also if it was going to happen next year would the seats not already by on sale, remember this time last year AA had announced the flights for SO6, released some, sold some and pulled the route by now. I suspect the other forum is complete guess work on the part of someone.
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sorry skyman771 didn't know you were Mr Parkin and know about what CO was planning!!!
I say the same about you as me that your guessing what is happening.
The only person who will know will the Mr parkin and CO.
Spotters on here are only guessing and CO will e-mail you saying they have no plans as they dont want it leek out on here!
It was stated by somebody else on pprune that CO still have 2 new routes to go on sale for 2007.
Top of the list was NCL and lyon. This person got the info from another forum.
In my eyes there may still be some hope maybe for winter 2007.
Stop being negitive as some people on here still have hope and there might JUST be some truth in this leastest rumour.
It's worth stating on here what is said!
I say the same about you as me that your guessing what is happening.
The only person who will know will the Mr parkin and CO.
Spotters on here are only guessing and CO will e-mail you saying they have no plans as they dont want it leek out on here!
It was stated by somebody else on pprune that CO still have 2 new routes to go on sale for 2007.
Top of the list was NCL and lyon. This person got the info from another forum.
In my eyes there may still be some hope maybe for winter 2007.
Stop being negitive as some people on here still have hope and there might JUST be some truth in this leastest rumour.
It's worth stating on here what is said!
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It is worth stating on here what is said if their is any truth in it. In this particular instance I don't think their is. If Newcastle were to get CO for summer 07 these seats would be on sale NOW, if they are going to fill a 757 they cant wait until the last minute to release seats. With regards to your comment about Mr P, I suggest that you check what he said in the press when AA pulled the route and that was In order for Newcastle to have a New York route for Summer 07 another carrier must be found by late Summer 06. NONE HAS BEEN FOUND.
Which forum are you are on about that mentions NCL is on the top of the list for summer 07 as no one else seems to be able to find it.
On the issue of someone starting the route is Winter 07, this is pure fantasy even Mr P recognises that the route would have to build initially on a good Summer season first. To start in the winter makes no business sense.
Finally your comment about CO denying the possibity of a NCL route by email in case it leaks out is complete rubbish, I suppose the lack of any mention in their 2 year business plan is another conspiracy theory of yours I suppose.
I don't think people dismissing the possibility of the route in Summer 07 are been negative just realistic we all probably want this route to happen. We all need to keep our feet on the ground though.
It is worth stating on here what is said if their is any truth in it. In this particular instance I don't think their is. If Newcastle were to get CO for summer 07 these seats would be on sale NOW, if they are going to fill a 757 they cant wait until the last minute to release seats. With regards to your comment about Mr P, I suggest that you check what he said in the press when AA pulled the route and that was In order for Newcastle to have a New York route for Summer 07 another carrier must be found by late Summer 06. NONE HAS BEEN FOUND.
Which forum are you are on about that mentions NCL is on the top of the list for summer 07 as no one else seems to be able to find it.
On the issue of someone starting the route is Winter 07, this is pure fantasy even Mr P recognises that the route would have to build initially on a good Summer season first. To start in the winter makes no business sense.
Finally your comment about CO denying the possibity of a NCL route by email in case it leaks out is complete rubbish, I suppose the lack of any mention in their 2 year business plan is another conspiracy theory of yours I suppose.
I don't think people dismissing the possibility of the route in Summer 07 are been negative just realistic we all probably want this route to happen. We all need to keep our feet on the ground though.
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BE
I see BE has announced BHD-CWL twice daily. If a base was established in either NCL or CWL does anyone else think they will take up the NCL - CWL route, twice daily at good business times? Worked well for Air Wales? And flybe are cheaper, well than T3 anyway!!
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Jet2 NCL-AMS 2 x Daily for Summer 2007.
As for CO and NCL-EWR, if it was going to happen for 2007, it would have been announced by now. If it does happen, it will be for the Summer 2008 at the earliest.
As for CO and NCL-EWR, if it was going to happen for 2007, it would have been announced by now. If it does happen, it will be for the Summer 2008 at the earliest.
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What you can do HH6702, is to continue your daydreaming about a S08 service, but then that’s some time away in aviation terms & who know's anything is possible.
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FJE seem to be running normally, schedule is quite quiet on the run up to xmas but after that busy programme resumes. They are also due to continue operations into summer 07. I'm sure I read that when Silverjet took over FJE that charter ops would continue until atleast october 07 and then a review would take place. Never heard of all the crew leaving though!!! Doesn't sound too promising, however it could all be rumour and FJE could be running quite well!
This talk about CO and NYC is getting rather agitated now, perhaps we should all just wait for an official announcement.
nclairportfan all does seem quite subdued on the BE NCL expansion front. I thought more would have been said by now and looking at schedules for summer 07 EXT, SOU and BHD are all still non-based a/c, leaving just LIG as NCL originating.
FJE seem to be running normally, schedule is quite quiet on the run up to xmas but after that busy programme resumes. They are also due to continue operations into summer 07. I'm sure I read that when Silverjet took over FJE that charter ops would continue until atleast october 07 and then a review would take place. Never heard of all the crew leaving though!!! Doesn't sound too promising, however it could all be rumour and FJE could be running quite well!
This talk about CO and NYC is getting rather agitated now, perhaps we should all just wait for an official announcement.
nclairportfan all does seem quite subdued on the BE NCL expansion front. I thought more would have been said by now and looking at schedules for summer 07 EXT, SOU and BHD are all still non-based a/c, leaving just LIG as NCL originating.
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I don't think FJE are still recruiting for crew, it has said that on the application since around january last year. I'm sure they will need more crew for summer 07 if crew have left during the year they have been at ncl.
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So, do we assume the BE LIG flights is repositioning from elsewhere? Seems a bit odd, would have though a w rotation would have suited it better.
Personally, I believe BE have lots of potential from NCL. CPH, SNN, NWI, FRA, CWL, ABZ, NQY, BHX, TLS, BOD, EGC are all routes they could make a real success of, as they have proved with SOU and EXT.
Hopefully the four based aircraft will come off!
Personally, I believe BE have lots of potential from NCL. CPH, SNN, NWI, FRA, CWL, ABZ, NQY, BHX, TLS, BOD, EGC are all routes they could make a real success of, as they have proved with SOU and EXT.
Hopefully the four based aircraft will come off!
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JET 2
I note that the AMSTERDAM schedule is now on the Jet 2 site. It operates at a twice daily frequency M - F with one flight on Sa and Su.
This just leaves BERGEN from the old route structure and whatever other routes they may announce.
FLYBE
Hopefully the talks with the airport have been completed and, if successful, new routes should be announced soon.
I note that the AMSTERDAM schedule is now on the Jet 2 site. It operates at a twice daily frequency M - F with one flight on Sa and Su.
This just leaves BERGEN from the old route structure and whatever other routes they may announce.
FLYBE
Hopefully the talks with the airport have been completed and, if successful, new routes should be announced soon.
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Newcastle-Geneva Summer 07
Despite Skyman771's optimism these flights have still not been released by Easyjet - I am hearing that it is to be a winter only service alternating with Nice as summer only. Has anybody any further or better info?
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As far as I know with regards to the NCL-GVA flight for summer 07, This flight is not available on E-res (Easyjet reservasion system) so I would say its defnitly not operating in the summer. As for operating as a winter destination I wouldnt be so sure, figures for december 06 are pretty poor average loads being approx 50 pax!
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Marra,have just checked the average LF for december which works out at a lot more than 50 pax! It is true there is generally a lull before christmas but after that the ski season kicks in and the pax numbers will increase significantly.
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Yeah I know what you mean about it picking up after xmas, Just look at summer 06 for GVA the flights were packed between July and September,
obviously oct/nov being the quiet times.
Yeah I know what you mean about it picking up after xmas, Just look at summer 06 for GVA the flights were packed between July and September,
obviously oct/nov being the quiet times.
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Hope talks with BE did work out, they woyld make a nice addition to NCL. Using smaller a/c they have the potential to make more routes viable as cost base is lower and less seats to fill! So far only LRT is a based a/c according to schedules with other routes to EXT, SOU, BHD and JER remaining the same as now. Does anybody know if they actually plan to open a base, complete with staff?
My only concern is space at NCL during the night/early morning. I have said it before but space was at a premium this summer. Next summer more a/c are based and there is only so many extra parking stands that can be built! Next summer sees:
Charter: 1xMYT, 3xTOM, 2xTCX, 2xXLA, 1xFJE.
Sched Based: 1xMail, 1xKL, 5xT3, 7XEZY, 4/5xLS with SN, AF and BA all nitestopping one a/c each.
That makes potentially 31 a/c on the ground and/or departing at the same time! 35 if BE are to base 4 units. Where are they going to park everything, let alone for early departures check in and board pax from. IMHO there is not enough gates, stands and check in counters.
Seems XLA will eventually have a/c based during the winter during the season 07/08. Must be replacing Flyjet?
My only concern is space at NCL during the night/early morning. I have said it before but space was at a premium this summer. Next summer more a/c are based and there is only so many extra parking stands that can be built! Next summer sees:
Charter: 1xMYT, 3xTOM, 2xTCX, 2xXLA, 1xFJE.
Sched Based: 1xMail, 1xKL, 5xT3, 7XEZY, 4/5xLS with SN, AF and BA all nitestopping one a/c each.
That makes potentially 31 a/c on the ground and/or departing at the same time! 35 if BE are to base 4 units. Where are they going to park everything, let alone for early departures check in and board pax from. IMHO there is not enough gates, stands and check in counters.
Seems XLA will eventually have a/c based during the winter during the season 07/08. Must be replacing Flyjet?