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Hope the mods don't mind a new thread but the last one seems closed when I done a search.
A few changes have appeared with their UK flights in 2007 and I was
wondering if anyone out there had any inside information.
BHX is now showing one a day again on various sites and I for one
checked only last month that it was two a day from 1/6/07.
Also Edinburgh is now showing double daily from May 2007 up from
11 per week.
I only read yesterday that BHX was going to be increased in Winter
2007 to 10 per week.
A bit of a shocker for BHX if true.
It has also been mentioned on other forums that their 2007 schedule
will not show too many new destinations, one said as little as two.
Can anybody clarify?
Pete
A few changes have appeared with their UK flights in 2007 and I was
wondering if anyone out there had any inside information.
BHX is now showing one a day again on various sites and I for one
checked only last month that it was two a day from 1/6/07.
Also Edinburgh is now showing double daily from May 2007 up from
11 per week.
I only read yesterday that BHX was going to be increased in Winter
2007 to 10 per week.
A bit of a shocker for BHX if true.
It has also been mentioned on other forums that their 2007 schedule
will not show too many new destinations, one said as little as two.
Can anybody clarify?
Pete
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Pete,
It is true that BHX will only be daily next summer. Word is that the second a/c they would have used would be better utilised else where. BHX management and staff are not overly impressed as you can imagine, esp as they are not being offered a 762 or 764 to compensate.
It is true that BHX will only be daily next summer. Word is that the second a/c they would have used would be better utilised else where. BHX management and staff are not overly impressed as you can imagine, esp as they are not being offered a 762 or 764 to compensate.
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Cheers for that, I bet BHX were not impressed as I understand some
people were quietly confident of Northwest to DTW and that has not
come to fruition either.
skyman771
Is that definite? The people who claim to be in the know, seemed not
to know where these one or two new destinations were to be but
France (Lyon etc) was a favourite and NCL seemed not to be ruled
out completely (all stuff from another forum).
Skipness
I must admit the BHX winter 2007/8 rumour of 10 a week was from
only one source and I have no idea if it is reliable or not.
All a bit sad for BHX, with not far off double the pax of Bristol
and Belfast but will have the same amount of schedule services
to the US (not knocking BRS or BFS - more BHX).
Hopefully it will encourage Delta in 2008 with a 757 to JFK.
Surely BHX can support two 757's if not three across the pond a day?
Pete
Cheers for that, I bet BHX were not impressed as I understand some
people were quietly confident of Northwest to DTW and that has not
come to fruition either.
skyman771
Is that definite? The people who claim to be in the know, seemed not
to know where these one or two new destinations were to be but
France (Lyon etc) was a favourite and NCL seemed not to be ruled
out completely (all stuff from another forum).
Skipness
I must admit the BHX winter 2007/8 rumour of 10 a week was from
only one source and I have no idea if it is reliable or not.
All a bit sad for BHX, with not far off double the pax of Bristol
and Belfast but will have the same amount of schedule services
to the US (not knocking BRS or BFS - more BHX).
Hopefully it will encourage Delta in 2008 with a 757 to JFK.
Surely BHX can support two 757's if not three across the pond a day?
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Well at least it is safe for CO with 1 x daily BHX and there should be plenty of black ink on the balalnce sheet.
When it ws 2 x per day didnt they loose a packet.
If the exchange rate stays the same carn't see to many Americans coming over to visit Bonnie Scotland or anywhere else in the UK for that matter.
Seriously though BHX is well underserved.
Centre cities
When it ws 2 x per day didnt they loose a packet.
If the exchange rate stays the same carn't see to many Americans coming over to visit Bonnie Scotland or anywhere else in the UK for that matter.
Seriously though BHX is well underserved.
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When BHX was daily, it was making them a packet! The second flight added too much capacity! We can all sit back and act like armchair airline CEO's, but the fact is that when that 2nd flight was operating, it was rare that both flights left full! This obviously killed yields! CO are not going to keep seasonal capacity increases on routes that arent performing strongly, especially since other parts of their network need the aircraft!
Changes to the European schedule depend on whether or not Shanghai happens. If it doesnt, we may see a 777 in Europe, which would free up aircraft. Manchester and Dublin are the main candidates for larger equipment, should it become available!
Changes to the European schedule depend on whether or not Shanghai happens. If it doesnt, we may see a 777 in Europe, which would free up aircraft. Manchester and Dublin are the main candidates for larger equipment, should it become available!
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I went to dinner with an ISM (what they call the no.1) from CO a couple of days ago and he was saying that there is plenty of talk around IAH and EWR of new routes that CO are looking at in Europe and beyond, but unless they secure more flying equipment, any expansion will be extremely limited in the immediate future.
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If we dont get Shanghai, another city in India will be opened. I think we'll have another city or two in Europe. DL and others have released their Summer 07 timetable, but CO will wait and see what happens with Shanghai, and also await the outcome of another deal, which will remain undisclosed for the time being.......
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Maybe they're hoping the excess BHX pax might filter down to use BRS as the figures tend to be excellent one minute and very poor the next, dependent on who you ask.
Still they exceeded the estimated pax for the BRS service last year and look well on track this year.
Plus CO have what seems a cushtie little tie up with BRS being that it is the only scheduled trans-atlantic route served from BRS and what they ask for they get, I've never seen it parked anywhere but a front stand in a year and a half of operation, the most central check-in area in the whole terminal, once its checked in, thats it, 4 desks going to waste for 20 hours a day in a very busy check-in hall, especially in summer. Ah well!!
I Know BRS management have been seeking hard for an IAH and BOS route, it is mentioned in the BRS masterplan, may be they're hoping that CO may wish to utilise the desks a bit more, Cant see it for a while myself though.
Still they exceeded the estimated pax for the BRS service last year and look well on track this year.
Plus CO have what seems a cushtie little tie up with BRS being that it is the only scheduled trans-atlantic route served from BRS and what they ask for they get, I've never seen it parked anywhere but a front stand in a year and a half of operation, the most central check-in area in the whole terminal, once its checked in, thats it, 4 desks going to waste for 20 hours a day in a very busy check-in hall, especially in summer. Ah well!!
I Know BRS management have been seeking hard for an IAH and BOS route, it is mentioned in the BRS masterplan, may be they're hoping that CO may wish to utilise the desks a bit more, Cant see it for a while myself though.
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IAH-BRS? I can't see how they would fill that.
I would think that CO's next IAH target would be ABZ (because of the oil industry connections), if they routed it throgh MAN pax from there could fill up the economy seats and the aircraft could take on fuel @ MAN which would lower the take off weight, therefore they would get around the problem of ABZ's short runway.
I would think that CO's next IAH target would be ABZ (because of the oil industry connections), if they routed it throgh MAN pax from there could fill up the economy seats and the aircraft could take on fuel @ MAN which would lower the take off weight, therefore they would get around the problem of ABZ's short runway.
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Hahahah! BRS-IAH is a very long shot!!! We are looking to expand to Asia. Any IAH-Europe routes would require 767-200ER/767-400 or 777, which we dont have. Once we get our hands on them, they will be sent to China and India. India has performed extremely well, as has China, so we will expand were we are making money! I think if IAH is going to see expansion on flights to Europe, it will be FCO or MAD first!
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Heard the other day that Continental will transfer all its flights to the North Terminal at Gatwick from early May ?
Any news of Summer 2007 schedules changes from Gatwick because of this ?
Any news of Summer 2007 schedules changes from Gatwick because of this ?
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Bearing in mind that the place is heaving with AA BA DL heavies at that hour, who is getting the heave as CO have around 3-5 on the deck at once lats summer.
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CLE-CDG wont even fly until 2008, so who knows if it will be seasonal, or even get off the ground!
I havent heard anything about a terminal change in LGW. WE have our own check-in, plus a presidents Club in the South terminal, so if we move, it will cost a fair bit!
EWR-NCL- I'm not sure. It would be the 7th city in the UK! I think they mentioned 2/3 new destinations in Europe. DL has announed their new destinations for Summer 07, but I think it will be the end of Jan/Feb before we hear anything.
I havent heard anything about a terminal change in LGW. WE have our own check-in, plus a presidents Club in the South terminal, so if we move, it will cost a fair bit!
EWR-NCL- I'm not sure. It would be the 7th city in the UK! I think they mentioned 2/3 new destinations in Europe. DL has announed their new destinations for Summer 07, but I think it will be the end of Jan/Feb before we hear anything.
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Gatwick North Terminal stands in the morning are :
63 / 62 / 61 for the 3 * American 777 / 763
60 / 59 / 58 / 54 / 53 / 52 / 51 and occasionally 111 for the 9 * BA 777
57 / 56 / 554-551 short haul and domestic
51 / 50 / 49 for 3 * DL 777 / 763
48 EK 777
47 / 46 FCA
Assuming that CO will still have 2 * EWR, 1 * IAH and the CLE on the deck at once, something has to move to the South Terminal surely. First Choice anyone?
Mind you with Delta being in Skyteam that might make sense but then so is NWA.....
63 / 62 / 61 for the 3 * American 777 / 763
60 / 59 / 58 / 54 / 53 / 52 / 51 and occasionally 111 for the 9 * BA 777
57 / 56 / 554-551 short haul and domestic
51 / 50 / 49 for 3 * DL 777 / 763
48 EK 777
47 / 46 FCA
Assuming that CO will still have 2 * EWR, 1 * IAH and the CLE on the deck at once, something has to move to the South Terminal surely. First Choice anyone?
Mind you with Delta being in Skyteam that might make sense but then so is NWA.....
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Well according to the widebody shedule there is only one new route planned for Europe in 2007. It is not NCL.
This is all subject to change dependant on the outcome of PVG route.
The terminal move is at BAA request so most of bills will be footed by them.
This is all subject to change dependant on the outcome of PVG route.
The terminal move is at BAA request so most of bills will be footed by them.
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I am quite surprised that the planned move to the North Terminal was not common knowledge .The rumour with different dates for summer 2007 has been doing the rounds for ages . Main reason is to free up space in the overcrowded South Terminal at peak times . BAA are confident that with British Airways adding more self check in machines in the North this will eventually leave a whole Zone for Continental over there
This is already causeing major arguments in the South Terminal with the other smaller scheduled airlines and Virgin Nigeria all making a claim for Zone B once Continental move
There are still major issues to be resolved most of which involve the stand planning side at peak times at the North but someones obviously done the mathmatics and it fits !!!!
Sounds like a usual BAA Gatwick disaster waiting to happen !!!!
This is already causeing major arguments in the South Terminal with the other smaller scheduled airlines and Virgin Nigeria all making a claim for Zone B once Continental move
There are still major issues to be resolved most of which involve the stand planning side at peak times at the North but someones obviously done the mathmatics and it fits !!!!
Sounds like a usual BAA Gatwick disaster waiting to happen !!!!