IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
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STN flight was unlucky, circled the airport for 10 or 15 minutes and then went to SNN, perhaps hadn't the fuel to hang around any longer. Flybe's MAN flight was circling at the same time but waited around and got in about 15 minutes later when the winds had dropped a little. I was waiting to get on the EDI flight which (thankfully) was an hour late due to a technical issue in Scotland and got straight in. Pilot admitted that we were close to the wind limits for a dash 8 but we got away OK. Plane was rocking on the Tarmac though. Surprised by the number of passengers on the EDI flight connecting elsewhere, the delay made them quite visible.
STN flight looked very busy, so you're talking about three or four bus loads up and down to Shannon. They'll only be departing about now.
103kmph gust recorded at Knock earlier according to the airport's twitter.
STN flight looked very busy, so you're talking about three or four bus loads up and down to Shannon. They'll only be departing about now.
103kmph gust recorded at Knock earlier according to the airport's twitter.
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Wind gusts of 103km clocked in Knock. It was the only one affected.
I don't want really want to go down this road but if the people in the West & North West want to fundraise for a statue to the man who effectively build the airport so be it, this is nothing new and is a fitting contribution to the man. From the sounds of things it's like it's offending people, come on lads!
There was even a play not so long ago about the man and his struggles, all proceeds went in aid of Mayo Roscommon Hospice Foundation. I suppose people will give out about raising money for a hospice too!
http://wingandprayermusical.com/
I don't want really want to go down this road but if the people in the West & North West want to fundraise for a statue to the man who effectively build the airport so be it, this is nothing new and is a fitting contribution to the man. From the sounds of things it's like it's offending people, come on lads!
There was even a play not so long ago about the man and his struggles, all proceeds went in aid of Mayo Roscommon Hospice Foundation. I suppose people will give out about raising money for a hospice too!
http://wingandprayermusical.com/
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Hi Kinocker
How were the loads to and from edi.It's good to hear that passenger were using the route for connections.
It's the one route I would be afraid knock could lose.passenger numbers don't set the world on fire but the airport have said flybe are happy with the way their 2 routes are performing.I guess the turboprop is much more economical than a jet.
I think the airport should do a slot on local radio informing passengers of low fares and deals on hotels for weekend breaks to the uk from knock.This would definitely help the likes of flybe routes and ei routes as people will always check fr first as it's the dominant carrier.
Just a thought!
How were the loads to and from edi.It's good to hear that passenger were using the route for connections.
It's the one route I would be afraid knock could lose.passenger numbers don't set the world on fire but the airport have said flybe are happy with the way their 2 routes are performing.I guess the turboprop is much more economical than a jet.
I think the airport should do a slot on local radio informing passengers of low fares and deals on hotels for weekend breaks to the uk from knock.This would definitely help the likes of flybe routes and ei routes as people will always check fr first as it's the dominant carrier.
Just a thought!
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EDI loads were in the mid 40s which is fairly consistent with what I have experienced on the route in the last couple of years. The early weekend flight has switched from Friday back to early on Thursday for this summer which may have a negative impact on numbers. Also the commencement of flybe's GLA-SNN route might have an effect as a certain amount of the NOC route's passengers would be going to/from the west of Scotland.
However, the loads I saw on this trip were encouraging so hopefully it can continue to be sustained. I use it quite regularly and would certainly miss it if it was to be pulled at any stage.
However, the loads I saw on this trip were encouraging so hopefully it can continue to be sustained. I use it quite regularly and would certainly miss it if it was to be pulled at any stage.
Folks,
With reference to the EDI flight, there appears to be something weird going on.
CAA Stats say this:
Edinburgh- IRELAND WEST(KNOCK) 91
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...nal_Routes.pdf
So, something's gone wrong somewhere. Any ideas?
With reference to the EDI flight, there appears to be something weird going on.
CAA Stats say this:
Edinburgh- IRELAND WEST(KNOCK) 91
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...nal_Routes.pdf
So, something's gone wrong somewhere. Any ideas?
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Seems a random day for an extra flight - did Ryanair have a four hour afternoon slot free at LTN that they didn't know what else to do with or something?
Departures at 12:45pm and 4:50pm to Luton, EI to Gatwick departs at 12:45pm, FR Stansted flight goes at 1:40pm - I can't imagine there's that much demand for flights from Knock to London on a Saturday afternoon...
On a separate note, I don't think the passenger figures for the first quarter of 2013 have been posted, so here they are:
January 32,089 (+221/0.7%)
February 34,886 (-2800/7.4%)
March 43,644 (-2828/6.1%)
Overall 110,619 (-5407/4.7%)
The expected passenger number drops already clear to see unfortunately, this is likely to be a trend right through the year at Knock after last year's record breaking numbers. Somewhere around the 650k mark still probably the target for 2013 - that would see the damage limited to a 5% drop overall.
Departures at 12:45pm and 4:50pm to Luton, EI to Gatwick departs at 12:45pm, FR Stansted flight goes at 1:40pm - I can't imagine there's that much demand for flights from Knock to London on a Saturday afternoon...
On a separate note, I don't think the passenger figures for the first quarter of 2013 have been posted, so here they are:
January 32,089 (+221/0.7%)
February 34,886 (-2800/7.4%)
March 43,644 (-2828/6.1%)
Overall 110,619 (-5407/4.7%)
The expected passenger number drops already clear to see unfortunately, this is likely to be a trend right through the year at Knock after last year's record breaking numbers. Somewhere around the 650k mark still probably the target for 2013 - that would see the damage limited to a 5% drop overall.
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Im using the Luton flight this Saturday into Knock and also surprised about an additional flight on a Saturday. A Friday or Sunday fair enough but it must have been a case that they were doing nothing else with the plane!
Maybe this flight is more geared up for a 'gathering' festival Saturday night goer, get into Sligo/Galway/Westport for 5/6 have a night of it and head back to good auld Landon Town the next day.
Well that's my best attempt - already the normal Gatwick, Luton & Stansted flights on a Saturday although this extra flight is a welcome addition.
Maybe this flight is more geared up for a 'gathering' festival Saturday night goer, get into Sligo/Galway/Westport for 5/6 have a night of it and head back to good auld Landon Town the next day.
Well that's my best attempt - already the normal Gatwick, Luton & Stansted flights on a Saturday although this extra flight is a welcome addition.
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Kinocker...
I stand corrected on my previous comment about the additional Luton service. As I previously said I had to go on that flight yesterday and it was JAMMED packed, pax struggling to find a seat busy. It could well be that advanced bookings for June are high and it was worth MOLs while to run another flight. I think there's a few festivals on around then so they could be helping matters too maybe. Also spend per passenger on confectionery items was very high on this particular flight which I was somewhat surprised about. Maybe I'm more used to flying early morning/late night services when demand for these items are generally very low, but I was take aback on how many people actually purchased items.
I flew on the 16:40 Stansted flight back just now and asked cabin crew about numbers and was informed 184 seats out of 189 were sold.
On another side note my lift situation didn't work out well so unfortunately I had to hire a car this time. The lad from Budget said 45 cars were rented out from their office, more from Hertz and the same number from Avis & Europcar for the weekend. Again I was surprised that on a given weekend over 200 cars were rented from the airport, admittedly your man did say they were busier than normal with a lot of Communions & Confirmations taking place over the weekend in the West.
I stand corrected on my previous comment about the additional Luton service. As I previously said I had to go on that flight yesterday and it was JAMMED packed, pax struggling to find a seat busy. It could well be that advanced bookings for June are high and it was worth MOLs while to run another flight. I think there's a few festivals on around then so they could be helping matters too maybe. Also spend per passenger on confectionery items was very high on this particular flight which I was somewhat surprised about. Maybe I'm more used to flying early morning/late night services when demand for these items are generally very low, but I was take aback on how many people actually purchased items.
I flew on the 16:40 Stansted flight back just now and asked cabin crew about numbers and was informed 184 seats out of 189 were sold.
On another side note my lift situation didn't work out well so unfortunately I had to hire a car this time. The lad from Budget said 45 cars were rented out from their office, more from Hertz and the same number from Avis & Europcar for the weekend. Again I was surprised that on a given weekend over 200 cars were rented from the airport, admittedly your man did say they were busier than normal with a lot of Communions & Confirmations taking place over the weekend in the West.
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Hi All
Any word on the Turkish flights comming for winter 2013?
Any word on the Turkish flights comming for winter 2013?
Seems a random day for an extra flight - did Ryanair have a four hour afternoon slot free at LTN that they didn't know what else to do with or something?
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Thanks EI-A330-300
See that LGW flight from tomorrow is W from BHD LGW NOC LGW BHD.
Is this the finish of LGW base for EI?
See that LGW flight from tomorrow is W from BHD LGW NOC LGW BHD.
Is this the finish of LGW base for EI?
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LGw EI base
Doing fine these days good number ad hoc charters
Updates on The Lingus Source |, cross ref this with virginsource
But looking at march April,seems base was busy ,
EI are short a plane still , this is causing cancelations and subs
On a regular basis, still better not to be over capacity
In these trying times.
Updates on The Lingus Source |, cross ref this with virginsource
But looking at march April,seems base was busy ,
EI are short a plane still , this is causing cancelations and subs
On a regular basis, still better not to be over capacity
In these trying times.