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Old 16th Jun 2013, 00:06
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Bhx service still not book able for winter or ryanair Bristol service, anybody know what's happening.??
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AirportS tend to take credit and issue glowing press releases when traffic is up and blame the recession and every thing else that goes with it when traffic is falling. As far as Knock goes and increasingly Cork, the traffic patterns are likely to follow the whims of Ryanair for the forseeable future. They're the only airline interested in providing serious growth but the downside of that is that they can easily bring about a major decline in traffic if they so wish.
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Old 16th Jun 2013, 12:14
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increasingly Cork
Not true concerning Aer Lingus plan's for Cork in 2014.
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Old 16th Jun 2013, 13:05
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From what I know iwak, EIR haven't cancelled BHX, they are late launching winter schedule. Not confirmed, just what I've been told.
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I'd be surprised if Birmingham was discontinued. Bristol maybe not so much - possibly only profitable during the summer months for a 738.

Passenger numbers are down because the Hahn and Beauvais flights didn't prove profitable last year and have not been brought back. Because the seats for those flights were sold cheaply they skewed the passenger numbers a bit for 2012 - like a mini version of what happened at Shannon for about five years. I think this year's numbers and the 2011 figures give a truer picture of where the airport is at - about 650,000 pax p.a. still.

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Old 17th Jun 2013, 12:30
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I'd be surprised if Birmingham was discontinued. Bristol maybe not so much - possibly only profitable during the summer months for a 738.

Passenger numbers are down because the Hahn and Beauvais flights didn't prove profitable last year and have not been brought back. Because the seats for those flights were sold cheaply they skewed the passenger numbers a bit for 2012 - like a mini version of what happened at Shannon for about five years. I think this year's numbers and the 2011 figures give a truer picture of where the airport is at - about 650,000 pax p.a. still.
HHN and BVA mostly had empty seats which couldn't being filled with fares of 5 euro.

Malaga was launched which should of got good loads.

Over all the bucket and spare has increased competition this year and people will go for cheap even if it means traveling further afield. Then their is the Irish-UK market which is struggling at the minute.
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Old 18th Jun 2013, 11:07
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Decent figures for the month of May for Knock, spares a little of the doom and gloom on this thread recently:

Luton 9497 +32 (increase 2,294 PAX)
Stansted 10797 +20 (increase 1,812 PAX)
Birmingham 2479 -47 (Aer Arann now serving this route compared to BMIbaby, decrease 2,209 PAX)
Bristol 3014 +2 (increase 63 PAX)
Gatwick 5884 -7 (decrease 476 PAX)
East Midlands 5230 +10 (increase 459 PAX)
Manchester 2317 -9 (decrease 233 PAX)
Edinburgh no figures yet
Leeds -744 (no serving this route anymore)
Liverpool 7574 +21 (increase 1,293 PAX)

In total its 2,259 PAX up on UK routes compared to May 2012. From what I heard the mainland Europe routes are doing ok too.

Also nice photos on their website of the US Media delegation

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Old 18th Jun 2013, 12:38
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Hi All

Ryanair are reportedly considering operating fewer flights from the airport for 2014.

What flight are for the chop or reduce.

MOL said 2011 that he would announce for flights from IWAK to bring number of flights to twenty five in rthe future.
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Old 18th Jun 2013, 14:23
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Ryanair are reportedly considering operating fewer flights from the airport for 2014.
Perhaps some of the newer routes are coming to an end of whatever incentive scheme was agreed.

Ryanair are well known for playing hardball.

They will threaten to move services unless they get a new sweetheart deal.

Standard business practice for them
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Old 1st Jul 2013, 23:27
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I2 - Iberia Express

Am I right in saying that Iberia express came to NOC this evening from Pamplona?
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Yes . There was a charter flight operated NOC today from PNA with Spanish students mostly traveling to Galway for a month and will be returning to Pamplona on the 29th of July afaik.

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Old 2nd Jul 2013, 13:10
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Bhx still not bookable for winter are regional pulling out???
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Old 3rd Jul 2013, 21:22
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Boris, David and the Queen have all been invited over for the London V Mayo match. Good to see the extra flights. IWAK management must be loving London's continued run in the championship.

Ireland West Airport Knock
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Old 3rd Jul 2013, 21:46
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Marvellous Spin, what looks like 4 Connacht Final Specials turns out to be just one extra flight! The other so called specials are the existing flights!
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Old 3rd Jul 2013, 22:00
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Fair dues NOC create a bit of free publicity around things like this, Ryanair have been doing it for years.

Is it not two flights? One from STN on the Saturday at 11:55 then from NOC on the Monday at 16:40. Those flights will probably carry the London team with some of their lads out of pocket due to these additional matches from taking days off work.
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Marvellous Spin, what looks like 4 Connacht Final Specials
All it is are two extra flights for the weekend


Talking to friend of mine and say had booked Palma-Majorca for Aug 2nd and got a cll today and flight cancel due to low passager numbers.

Is this for real as i try to booked a number of flights in aug and most were full out and back.
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 20:10
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Is it not two flights? One from STN on the Saturday at 11:55 then from NOC on the Monday at 16:40. Those flights will probably carry the London team with some of their lads out of pocket due to these additional matches from taking days off work.
The team want to arrive relaxed and refreshed and not have to put for with the FR scrum for seats on board etc which is why EI Regional will fly them in on a charter.
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 21:15
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Report in one of today's paper said that the Kerry Palma flight ends on 18th July and that the Knock charters' are under review.
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 21:19
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Also still no bhx past October - anyone any info?
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 23:35
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Maybe ei mainline might take it up 4 wkly. There was rumour a While back that ei regional would be the next to arrive at bhd so maybe a route would be done to bhx through a bhd based aircraft .

I would say fr would do a daily service and reduce ema to three weekly if it were to happen. It would be a great boost to pax numbers if we had a daily bhx with fr.

Numbers have been fairly good on the route can't undertand as to why they would let an established route go.
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