IRELAND WEST AIRPORT KNOCK
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This can only be good news for NOC, should be interesting...
Another crack at France/Germany 2 a week each
Maybe Palma de Mallorca 2 a week
Soctland i doubt it
Uk stansted twice daily for S14, hardly look at Gat
Reus would be nice? with girona gone
Malaga 3 a week
Man 4 a week
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Hi
Just been on fr website and when I clicked knock destinations in the booking engine Glasgow international, Kaunas and Eindhoven came up . Interesting destinations ! Maybe I've been proved right on the Glasgow front
Just been on fr website and when I clicked knock destinations in the booking engine Glasgow international, Kaunas and Eindhoven came up . Interesting destinations ! Maybe I've been proved right on the Glasgow front
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Well they've confirmed on their fb page that it won't involve Reus, not hugely surprising as neither airport is a Ryanair base.
Looking forward to the announcement anyway, don't know what to expect really. I suppose out of sheer short term selfishness I want Prestwick but at the same time I'd be worried that it would fail and bring flybe's Edinburgh service down with it.
I hope they don't just go on the attack against flybe with routes like Edinburgh and Manchester.
Looking forward to the announcement anyway, don't know what to expect really. I suppose out of sheer short term selfishness I want Prestwick but at the same time I'd be worried that it would fail and bring flybe's Edinburgh service down with it.
I hope they don't just go on the attack against flybe with routes like Edinburgh and Manchester.
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Glasgow International.... I wouldnt have thought so. If Flybe struggle to fill a D8 in peak summer from a tourist hotspot such as EDI, Id be surprised if FR could fill a 737-800 year round from anywhere is Scotland. All will be revealed no doubt.
Wonder how Derry does ex PIK
Wonder how Derry does ex PIK
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Vickers viscount, Derry Prestwick loads are woeful, many months loads overall as low as 50%, but it's a very short flight ...
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I don't see Ryanair going head to head with any of Flybe's routes, I highly doubt management would allow it. These flights will be more bucket and spade routes with a mainland Europe destination thrown in also. I'm not sure which UK route they could really add, Leeds didn't work out, preswick the loads would be poor. Increase the amount of London flights...
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Ryanair have announced PIK, EIN & KUN from NOC for next Summer.
Ryanair Announces 3 New Knock Routes From April 2014
Ryanair Announces 3 New Knock Routes From April 2014
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Very good - any word on frequencies, possibly once or twice a week to Eindhoven and Kaunas and three weekly to Prestwick? Kaunas rather than a Polish route is a bit strange, no?
None of those routes are served from Irish (ROI) Airports other than Dublin so they may draw passengers from a wider area than the likes of the London routes do.
A significant expansion that does not include any sun routes is a surprise.
None of those routes are served from Irish (ROI) Airports other than Dublin so they may draw passengers from a wider area than the likes of the London routes do.
A significant expansion that does not include any sun routes is a surprise.
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I don't see how PIK will work from NOC when it really doesn't from LDY. It will certainly be interesting to compare loads next summer if LDY still has the PIK route.
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Yes, this will be very interesting. Is LDY not daily though? I can't imagine the frequency to NOC will be anything close to that - three days a week at most.
NOC have done a fair bit of marketing in the Donegal area in the last year or so, I think they will need to target south Donegal and the border areas in a big way when marketing this route if it is to work. Other than SNN-GLA (which has low loads and I doubt will last) this route will have the West of Scotland to West of Ireland market to itself. Whether that will be enough to sustain it remains to be seen.
NOC have done a fair bit of marketing in the Donegal area in the last year or so, I think they will need to target south Donegal and the border areas in a big way when marketing this route if it is to work. Other than SNN-GLA (which has low loads and I doubt will last) this route will have the West of Scotland to West of Ireland market to itself. Whether that will be enough to sustain it remains to be seen.
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Ireland West Airport Knock (IWAK press release)
Kaunas 1 x weekly (Thursday)
Eindhoven 2 x weekly (Tuesday and Saturday)
Prestwick 3 x weekly (Wednesday, Friday and Sunday)
The press release looks rushed, there are a few things that don't quite add up:
It suggests that all routes start in April but then says Prestwick starts in June.
Ryanair press release states 80,000 extra seats but IWAK press release states 80,000 on new routes plus 60,000 additional seats to London.
It also infers that there are to be increases on both Luton and Stansted routes - but will there actually be any increase on this year's winter schedule to London and will there actually be any extra flights to Luton?
It is also not clear if any or all of the routes are seasonal or year round - maybe that will be decided based on how they go next summer.
And then there's this throwaway comment at the end:
Kaunas 1 x weekly (Thursday)
Eindhoven 2 x weekly (Tuesday and Saturday)
Prestwick 3 x weekly (Wednesday, Friday and Sunday)
The press release looks rushed, there are a few things that don't quite add up:
It suggests that all routes start in April but then says Prestwick starts in June.
Ryanair press release states 80,000 extra seats but IWAK press release states 80,000 on new routes plus 60,000 additional seats to London.
It also infers that there are to be increases on both Luton and Stansted routes - but will there actually be any increase on this year's winter schedule to London and will there actually be any extra flights to Luton?
It is also not clear if any or all of the routes are seasonal or year round - maybe that will be decided based on how they go next summer.
And then there's this throwaway comment at the end:
We expect further positive route development announcements in the coming weeks
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Knock to Bristol
Pleasing to see Ryanair will resume this service next Spring - as currently there is no way to get from West Ireland (either Knock or Shannon) to South West England (Bristol) over the Winter 2013 period by any airline.
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Not sure what release you are reading the release on ryanair website clearly says 80,000 passengers (not seats) which mirrors the airports release on their website Ireland West Airport Knock I think the additional 60,000 seats is in addition to existing London capacity and Luton will see extra evening services on Friday and Sunday starting in April as well as expected further increases on Stansted. As with all Ryanair announcements none of this new capacity is coming in till April 2014 - all in all a positive day for the West and be interesting to see what further announcements they referring to at the end of their release? any thoughts on same?
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It's 140,000 seats in total, it's just unusual to see Ryanair not pick out the maximum number possible and run with that, saying 80,000 passengers is a bit conservative by their standards.
The impromptu Q&A session on the IWAK fb page has cleared a few things up. Luton will go double daily on Fridays and Sundays, Stansted's existing Friday and Sunday double dailys will continue into the summer but no actual capacity increase as such on that route. Possibility of later flights during the summer though. Prestwick won't start until sometime in June.
As for the upcoming announcements - if Ryanair were throwing on more sun routes they'd surely have announced it today so that would suggest it is something not involving Ryanair. That task force report involving politicians, business and tourism groups is due out this month. The Advertiser has a fairly positive sounding story on it in this week's edition. Could it be something coming out of that like funding for a genuine hub connection? Something like that was done at Inverness not too long ago. It's probably more likely to be charter sun routes to be honest!
An interesting few weeks ahead either way.
The impromptu Q&A session on the IWAK fb page has cleared a few things up. Luton will go double daily on Fridays and Sundays, Stansted's existing Friday and Sunday double dailys will continue into the summer but no actual capacity increase as such on that route. Possibility of later flights during the summer though. Prestwick won't start until sometime in June.
As for the upcoming announcements - if Ryanair were throwing on more sun routes they'd surely have announced it today so that would suggest it is something not involving Ryanair. That task force report involving politicians, business and tourism groups is due out this month. The Advertiser has a fairly positive sounding story on it in this week's edition. Could it be something coming out of that like funding for a genuine hub connection? Something like that was done at Inverness not too long ago. It's probably more likely to be charter sun routes to be honest!
An interesting few weeks ahead either way.
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Kinocker perhaps fr have learned from the last time they said the 4 euro routes would carry x amount of passengers and that failed. Mind you the numbers they are expecting now are very ambitious.
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confused atco - not quite, I was thinking something more along the lines of the story I have posted below but funded by local chambers of commerce, tourism associations, the Border-Midlands-West Regional Assembly or some other business group...just a thought.
BBC News - New air route to link Inverness and Amsterdam
BBC News - New air route to link Inverness and Amsterdam
A new service linking a Scottish airport with one of Europe's busiest airports will be launched later this year, it has been announced.
Airline Flybe will fly between Inverness and Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport from 5 September.
The announcement on the new route has been welcomed by MSP Fergus Ewing.
Highlands and Islands Enterprise, Highland Council, transport body Hitrans and VisitScotland have contributed funding to the service.
Flybe will operate seven flights a week during the summer months and six per week in winter.
Inglis Lyon, managing director of Highlands and Islands Airports Limited (Hial), said the route would link Inverness with Europe's premier hub airport.
He added: "The proposed multi-billion investments in renewables, University of the Highlands and Islands developments and the thriving tourism markets gives this route even greater strategic significance."
Mike Rutter, Flybe's chief commercial officer, said the airline had been keen to open the route for many years.
He said: "We have every confidence that this new route will prove extremely successful in opening up the rest of the world through this key European hub and to further encourage business and leisure connections between these two destinations to Scottish travellers."
Airline Flybe will fly between Inverness and Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport from 5 September.
The announcement on the new route has been welcomed by MSP Fergus Ewing.
Highlands and Islands Enterprise, Highland Council, transport body Hitrans and VisitScotland have contributed funding to the service.
Flybe will operate seven flights a week during the summer months and six per week in winter.
Inglis Lyon, managing director of Highlands and Islands Airports Limited (Hial), said the route would link Inverness with Europe's premier hub airport.
He added: "The proposed multi-billion investments in renewables, University of the Highlands and Islands developments and the thriving tourism markets gives this route even greater strategic significance."
Mike Rutter, Flybe's chief commercial officer, said the airline had been keen to open the route for many years.
He said: "We have every confidence that this new route will prove extremely successful in opening up the rest of the world through this key European hub and to further encourage business and leisure connections between these two destinations to Scottish travellers."
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We had that sort of "connectivity" to a HUB airport.
It was called the "PSO".
The HUB was Dublin.
They are now gone bar Derry/Donegal and Kerry.
Inverness to Amsterdam as about 800km
EIKN to EIDW about 177km
Not the same.
Sustainable growth and routes are needed.
It was called the "PSO".
The HUB was Dublin.
They are now gone bar Derry/Donegal and Kerry.
Inverness to Amsterdam as about 800km
EIKN to EIDW about 177km
Not the same.
Sustainable growth and routes are needed.