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Tourism Ireland are on a big marketing drive in the uk so I would imagine fr will be well supported in this expansion should it go ahead. I still can't work out what other uk route fr are in discussion about apart from a second daily stn.any thoughts? Prestwick!
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PIK would be a nice addition to the network but thats the only other UK route they could add without affecting there own or another carriers routes.
Was recently announced the state funding to regional airports will stopped.
Minister wants to end airport subsidies - The Irish Times - Thu, Nov 10, 2011
Was recently announced the state funding to regional airports will stopped.
Minister wants to end airport subsidies - The Irish Times - Thu, Nov 10, 2011
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New routes from Ryanair coming next week?
"Ryanair will next week unveil a number of new routes from Knock Airport, with at least one expected to be to the UK and two others to continental Europe."
Ryanair's new Knock routes - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
Ryanair's new Knock routes - Irish, Business - Independent.ie
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I wouldn't be surprised to see FR on LGW NOC as a UK route, however, I think that EMA NOC has been mentioned on the forum yesterday but to my knowledge it hasnt been announced yet so maybe that's that UK route.
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Can't see them back at LGW, EI well established now. A late service to STN more likely. And EMA is running 4 weekly for a few years now.It might be BRS which is on sale after a winter break. If Taoiseach is attending launch is say it will be European routes as that has been the focus of gov, on getting German/ French visitors in as part of the proposed travel tax cut.
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Frankfurt I'd say is defo. Weeze not so sure as dusseldorf is being done by lufthansa. Maybe bergamo ? It's the uk one that's killing me. All the same it's great news and along with the increased capacity to ema should lead to healthy pax figures.
I presume with the deal been done with reus that we will see this route return. Just alicante to sort now.
I presume with the deal been done with reus that we will see this route return. Just alicante to sort now.
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Rues deal means a lot less traffic because of the less money FR are being offered so can't say what they will bring back yet.
LH on DUS is enough for FR to start Weeze which done very well when it was at SNN.
LH on DUS is enough for FR to start Weeze which done very well when it was at SNN.
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Take a look at the major European capitals on FR map, you'll find that no Irish destinations outside of DUB is served other than KIR-HHN. Even ORK is left with bucket and spade routes and the continent left to EI.
There has to be an opportunity to serve several of these from a second Irish airport. SNN is in the dog house, ORK too on charges, especially european routes where charges are higher and subsidies fewer.
So low-cost base like NOC can work for FR as it's proving on Spanish routes. In many ways it's the typical secondary airport FR pick all the time on the continent. People are willing to travel for cost and convenience of a smaller airport if it offers direct routes to their destination.
I may be wrong but I hope FR are thinking this way, it would also aid their agenda regarding DAA charges also.
There has to be an opportunity to serve several of these from a second Irish airport. SNN is in the dog house, ORK too on charges, especially european routes where charges are higher and subsidies fewer.
So low-cost base like NOC can work for FR as it's proving on Spanish routes. In many ways it's the typical secondary airport FR pick all the time on the continent. People are willing to travel for cost and convenience of a smaller airport if it offers direct routes to their destination.
I may be wrong but I hope FR are thinking this way, it would also aid their agenda regarding DAA charges also.
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The phrase 'a number of new routes' suggests that it will be routes that we haven't seen before rather than the return of routes that might have been cut. They surely couldn't class Reus, Alicante or Bristol as new routes, even a double daily to Stansted couldn't be classed as that.
I couldn't see Prestwick working either to be honest, bmibabys route to Glasgow didn't last long and had low loads because the market doesn't seem to be there. Maybe very low fares would attract people from south Donegal and Fermanagh but why bother when there is already a route to Derry?
However the expansion of the East Midlands route to daily suggests that they have decided to go after their competition and mark out Knock as their territory. I'm not sure that is at all good news longer term but there is nowhere else in the UK they can fly a 738 successfully without treading on someones toes. So it looks to me like they may try Edinburgh, Gatwick or, most likely, Manchester as their new UK route. If that is the case I don't think that would be anything to celebrate to be honest, flybe are doing a perfectly good job of serving Manchester and Edinburgh already, similarly Aer Lingus at Gatwick.
Hopefully the European routes will be positive developments, while I have no problem with Ryanair increasing passenger numbers with sun routes I hope a route to Hahn or a similar central european airport is given a try. Would the local demand exist to justify a route to Poland, there is still a large Polish population in the west and only one direct route available from the west coast?
I couldn't see Prestwick working either to be honest, bmibabys route to Glasgow didn't last long and had low loads because the market doesn't seem to be there. Maybe very low fares would attract people from south Donegal and Fermanagh but why bother when there is already a route to Derry?
However the expansion of the East Midlands route to daily suggests that they have decided to go after their competition and mark out Knock as their territory. I'm not sure that is at all good news longer term but there is nowhere else in the UK they can fly a 738 successfully without treading on someones toes. So it looks to me like they may try Edinburgh, Gatwick or, most likely, Manchester as their new UK route. If that is the case I don't think that would be anything to celebrate to be honest, flybe are doing a perfectly good job of serving Manchester and Edinburgh already, similarly Aer Lingus at Gatwick.
Hopefully the European routes will be positive developments, while I have no problem with Ryanair increasing passenger numbers with sun routes I hope a route to Hahn or a similar central european airport is given a try. Would the local demand exist to justify a route to Poland, there is still a large Polish population in the west and only one direct route available from the west coast?
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Would expect Malaga but whatever the new UK route it will affect there own or another carriers unless its PIK which I don't see happoning.
Reus taken out of booking system and route map today. Thats the only route from Reus to be removed.
Reus taken out of booking system and route map today. Thats the only route from Reus to be removed.
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Talk of it being 4 new routes as well as funding to extend the apron on another forum. No sources though and half of Europe mentioned as possible destinations.
Given that it is Enda showing up this time rather than Leo its possible that there might be some funding being provided for airport improvements alright. Certainly with the way operations in and out of Knock tend to be scheduled the existing stands are regularly at capacity at various times of the day between 11am and 4pm during the summer season.
Adding in the expected new routes and frequency increases on LTN and EMA will leave the apron desparately needing some expansion. And if MOL is serious about his 24 routes within 5 years claim...
Given that it is Enda showing up this time rather than Leo its possible that there might be some funding being provided for airport improvements alright. Certainly with the way operations in and out of Knock tend to be scheduled the existing stands are regularly at capacity at various times of the day between 11am and 4pm during the summer season.
Adding in the expected new routes and frequency increases on LTN and EMA will leave the apron desparately needing some expansion. And if MOL is serious about his 24 routes within 5 years claim...
