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quote : I see fr are doing an evening flight from noc to ace for the winter leaving noc at 19.40 on a Thursday.
I can see that flight time being changed. With operational hours being hit by the loss of RE I cannot forsee the management at Noc bringing in a crew to de-ice an aircraft, runways, footpaths and the ramp itself just for one late flight.
I can see that flight time being changed. With operational hours being hit by the loss of RE I cannot forsee the management at Noc bringing in a crew to de-ice an aircraft, runways, footpaths and the ramp itself just for one late flight.
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But sure the staff won't be starting early any more as there won't be any early flights earliest check in will be ltn starting at 9.30 .with aer arann the airport opened at 5.15am for the 7.15 departure so an extra 40 mins in the evening won't make difference . They will still be saving on man-hours and unsocial pay supplement which would apply when working before 7am.
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Ryanair had it at the early morning departure from NOC and they changed it to the evening a few weeks back. So don't see it being changed again. Do the airprot plan to get a carrier for BRS?
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Good to see the route being continued and happy that it is flybe that are taking it up but...4 weekly on a Q400 is a fair old capacity drop, I hope that will just be an initial offering and the route will either be upgraded to an e-jet or increased to daily by next summer. With LBA going there will be plenty of demand for this route.
Still good news though - the press release says onward connections to Amsterdam will be bookable and it would be a far more geographically sensible route to Paris than via EDI. I understand that the SNN-CDG route is going so the NOC route may gain some passengers from this also. Hopefully it might lead to a direct route to AMS or CDG at some stage in the future with onward connections bookable.
Still good news though - the press release says onward connections to Amsterdam will be bookable and it would be a far more geographically sensible route to Paris than via EDI. I understand that the SNN-CDG route is going so the NOC route may gain some passengers from this also. Hopefully it might lead to a direct route to AMS or CDG at some stage in the future with onward connections bookable.
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fair old capacity drop, I hope that will just be an initial offering and the route will either be upgraded to an e-jet or increased to daily by next summer.
Hope the change to prop doesn't affect the route, it's the right aircraft for the numbers but also has lower thresholds in some winter weather conditions than the jets. Flew on a very noisy D8 a few years back but have yet to try the more modern Q400.
As for connections I wont get excited, past MAN/LGW/EDI announcements all talked up connections, but none were in anyway practical. MAN connections not yet loaded on the site.
Wonder if BE are looking at BRS.
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Hopefully the same thing will happen as happened with Edinburgh and the frequency will be increased before the route even commences. NOC-MAN was getting close to 50,000 pax per year even when NOC-LBA was competing with it. 4x weekly on a 78 seater wouldn't even go close to that at 100% occupancy, there is definitely more potential there.
Bristol would certaunly suit a 3xweekly Q400 service, similar to Edinburgh there is a market but not enough to support a 738. Flybe might be put off by having to operate a W route though as they do not have a base at Bristol. However, numbers on the Ryanair service have been improving through this year so they may choose to bring it back next summer.
Bristol would certaunly suit a 3xweekly Q400 service, similar to Edinburgh there is a market but not enough to support a 738. Flybe might be put off by having to operate a W route though as they do not have a base at Bristol. However, numbers on the Ryanair service have been improving through this year so they may choose to bring it back next summer.
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This is good news, hopefully flybe get established at the airport and who knows open some new routes in the future and increase frequencies. Certainly a capacity drop but i wonder what the load would be like during the winter months on the baby.
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Great that man is sorted i personally think the 4 weekly will be under capacity with the dash maybe the 195 will be used for summer 12.
Flybe are the perfect airline to do a 3 wkly brs with dash.
Next thing should be to get a late evening fri and sun flight to stn.
Hopefully the reduction in capacity to man won't affect pax numbers too much.
I think ei should base the a319 on noc /lgw route would be perfect aircraft for the route .how is it performing?
Flybe are the perfect airline to do a 3 wkly brs with dash.
Next thing should be to get a late evening fri and sun flight to stn.
Hopefully the reduction in capacity to man won't affect pax numbers too much.
I think ei should base the a319 on noc /lgw route would be perfect aircraft for the route .how is it performing?
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Was in EDI last weekend and Aer Arann flights to/from EDI were full on Friday and Sunday. Both arrivals and departures. Don't think Flybe are affecting them very much as people thought they would. Suggests there is enough demand for both carriers. Anybody know what load factor on BE flights is?
Good news about MAN being filled.
Knock63 are the airport aware that Ryanair are dropping BRS and LBA as it wasn't made public like bmibaby MAN closure and its lightly NOC wont get there winter schedule for another while. Are they in talks with anybody about filling the gap for BRS.
Good news about MAN being filled.
Knock63 are the airport aware that Ryanair are dropping BRS and LBA as it wasn't made public like bmibaby MAN closure and its lightly NOC wont get there winter schedule for another while. Are they in talks with anybody about filling the gap for BRS.
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Everyone seems so hell bent on capacity. Flybe have 14 E195's that are pretty much fully utilised on much higher capacity trunk routes that MANNOC.
Flybe are not about capacity. They're much more about frequency and you're far more likely to get a twice daily Q400 than an upgrade from a single Q400 to single E195.
Remember, 45% of Flybe's passengers are flying on business. If the route proves popular then they'll most likely be looking to increase yield by running two a day at higher day return prices that putting on more capacity with a larger aircraft.
Flybe are not about capacity. They're much more about frequency and you're far more likely to get a twice daily Q400 than an upgrade from a single Q400 to single E195.
Remember, 45% of Flybe's passengers are flying on business. If the route proves popular then they'll most likely be looking to increase yield by running two a day at higher day return prices that putting on more capacity with a larger aircraft.
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Hi Jamie, I'm sure the Airport are well aware that the flights have been pulled. Don't think anyone will fill the gaps, it'll probably be a case of knuckling down, hold on tight and see what comes up in the spring time.
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HI Travel from Ire West to ALC 18/07/11.
Check in straight through as had only hand luggage no hold up.
Breakfast for 4 €22.00 very cheap
Flight in a bit late left 20 minutes late plane full arr ALC 30 minutes early
Coming back arr in Ire West 30 minutes late due to a/c delay and strong headwind and plane also full.
Car park for week €44.00 cheap
Overall very happy with Ire west airport staff helpfull and friendly which is nice and should not be lost.
Check in straight through as had only hand luggage no hold up.
Breakfast for 4 €22.00 very cheap
Flight in a bit late left 20 minutes late plane full arr ALC 30 minutes early
Coming back arr in Ire West 30 minutes late due to a/c delay and strong headwind and plane also full.
Car park for week €44.00 cheap
Overall very happy with Ire west airport staff helpfull and friendly which is nice and should not be lost.
