Flybe - 3 (Including the FlyBe/BACon merger)
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a general feed back that i seem to be getting from pax, is that they are 
at the delays the BE have had over the last few days, however, alot off these delays are actually being caused by crewing issues. Now i dont want to go down this road about the ex BACON crews now operating for BE, but when i hear about a skipper refusing to push back because BACON always gave him a hot breakfast and BE dont it makes the mind boggle!!
Customer service at its best, i think not.
at the delays the BE have had over the last few days, however, alot off these delays are actually being caused by crewing issues. Now i dont want to go down this road about the ex BACON crews now operating for BE, but when i hear about a skipper refusing to push back because BACON always gave him a hot breakfast and BE dont it makes the mind boggle!!Customer service at its best, i think not.
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Another problem ive heard of at manchester is that its all manual load sheets atm, so if the Capt changes his fueling figure its a brand new loadsheet, which takes time.
Hopefully FS will get a computized system up and running, would make things alot easier.
Hopefully FS will get a computized system up and running, would make things alot easier.
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Word down the Albie was that they had no pilots to fly them and a the gatwick jet had to do a manchester run this morning too so the redtails had to use there big prop job to fly the flybe people over so ggod for the redtails.
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The services from the Isle of Man were cancelled this afternoon as Flybe needed the aircraft in manchester for some routes that were well overbooked.
The auto loadsheets in manchester should be up and running sometime this week, as they need to be approved by BE management before rollout. They have been tested already with completed manual loadsheets and they are fine. Believe they are just waitin on some new equipment to arrive before it all comes to life
, and agreed, it will be alot easier for changes, and save alot of time.
But the guys in manchester are doin a great job, goin from not alot on saturday evening, to an additional 50 odd services a day, they are doin well, and all credit to them
The auto loadsheets in manchester should be up and running sometime this week, as they need to be approved by BE management before rollout. They have been tested already with completed manual loadsheets and they are fine. Believe they are just waitin on some new equipment to arrive before it all comes to life
, and agreed, it will be alot easier for changes, and save alot of time.But the guys in manchester are doin a great job, goin from not alot on saturday evening, to an additional 50 odd services a day, they are doin well, and all credit to them
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Certainly good news for loadcontrollers working for both FS and MR manual loadsheets are OK to do but automated will be quicker for everyone concerned. I should think at least come June FS should be well up and running with them which will make their lives a lot easier for the completed transition.
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Too true, you can almost guarantee to be late out of Dublin almost every turnaround!! If the crews have a brew its while they are waiting for fuel/passengers/service.....................................
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Dublin dispatch, what delay code have you been using against these miscreant crews ? - had more than a few 31s recently, certainly a case of the pot calling the kettle black I reckon.
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Yeah, agree - us pilots record the delays on our journey log too, 31 is for a late loadsheet btw, I don't like being accused of delaying flights so I can finish a cup of tea or satisfy a nicotine craving.
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I thought multi tasking was the ability to drink my coffee, mess up the sudoku, watch the pax board, wait for a tug and correct bar, and live in hope for a correct loadsheet
trying to work out my position on the seniority list is just too much to do though
trying to work out my position on the seniority list is just too much to do though
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Parked aircraft and new ones
As G-JECV the next Dash 8 will be (or could even be) on its way to BHX shortly, I thought I would add my observations re flybe at BHX yesterday.
They have been as good as their word (per the nextgeneration site) with
six aircraft parked up at BHX yesterday at one point, whilst the midday FRA took a two hour delay outbound and an inbound GLA three hours
(a good job the average pax doesn't know the half of it). On the positive side no cancellations .
I assume they had a tech Dash in GLA as the 12.05 in/12.30 out (GLA based craft) ran as a 145 originating in BHX. In other words the 12.30 outbound went on time and it operated back at 15.00 ish instead 12.05.
I assume the crew used were from the midday FRA which went out two hours late?
I suppose there is only so much you can do when an aircraft goes tech, with few crew available.
Unused aircraft on the deck at 10am were G-JEBD (on the 20's), G-EMBD (on the 20's), G-JEBB (on T2), G-JECR in hangar 2 but came out did some engine runs and parked on the 20's, G-MANS was outside hangar 2 but did position out and another Dash 8 was outside hangar 2 all day.
Mirana eat your heart out and it has been almost as dry this month
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They have been as good as their word (per the nextgeneration site) with
six aircraft parked up at BHX yesterday at one point, whilst the midday FRA took a two hour delay outbound and an inbound GLA three hours
(a good job the average pax doesn't know the half of it). On the positive side no cancellations
.I assume they had a tech Dash in GLA as the 12.05 in/12.30 out (GLA based craft) ran as a 145 originating in BHX. In other words the 12.30 outbound went on time and it operated back at 15.00 ish instead 12.05.
I assume the crew used were from the midday FRA which went out two hours late?
I suppose there is only so much you can do when an aircraft goes tech, with few crew available.
Unused aircraft on the deck at 10am were G-JEBD (on the 20's), G-EMBD (on the 20's), G-JEBB (on T2), G-JECR in hangar 2 but came out did some engine runs and parked on the 20's, G-MANS was outside hangar 2 but did position out and another Dash 8 was outside hangar 2 all day.
Mirana eat your heart out and it has been almost as dry this month
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Not much better at Manchester on Friday several EMB145s on the ground all day without any movement in them.
Down in the Islands this week the have had there problems.
G-JECT Dash 400 grounded early in the week due to ground incident Bombardier involved due to the damage done by the tow bar and tug.
Thursday early morning Guernsey Southampton cancelled due crewing, not good with Blueislands due to start the route shortly.
The Thursday morning Manchester Jersey cancellled due tech.
The Friday morning Birmingham Jersey cancelled tech or crewing problem?
Friday morning Manchester Jersey delayed due crew sickness and stand by being called in but taking nearly two hours to do this.
these are just some that have come to light this does not give a good picture for the takeover lets only hope with a few more months the problems will have been ironed out.
Down in the Islands this week the have had there problems.
G-JECT Dash 400 grounded early in the week due to ground incident Bombardier involved due to the damage done by the tow bar and tug.
Thursday early morning Guernsey Southampton cancelled due crewing, not good with Blueislands due to start the route shortly.
The Thursday morning Manchester Jersey cancellled due tech.
The Friday morning Birmingham Jersey cancelled tech or crewing problem?
Friday morning Manchester Jersey delayed due crew sickness and stand by being called in but taking nearly two hours to do this.
these are just some that have come to light this does not give a good picture for the takeover lets only hope with a few more months the problems will have been ironed out.
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The captain in question just wanted a breakfast - not necessarily hot. I did a 14 hour shift last week with no food at all. I brought powdered soup with me but couldn't even have that as we didn't have any hot water. Surely this is a health + safety issue - food=energy.
Last edited by cabingal; 21st Apr 2007 at 15:37. Reason: typo
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Olton pete, Have also noticed that since the combined airline started operation 3-4 Flybe aircraft appear to be parked all day everyday at BHX any idea why?? The BACon aircraft all seem to move however seem to stay on stand for an hour or two closed up before the next rotation! With this in mind it seems crazy to insist on 25 min turn arounds! Please let Cabingal have her soup! I totaly agree its not funny or clever being on a 12+ hour day with no access to food! Im sure if you were pax on a coach trip you would become quite worried if the driver sat in the chair without a break or taking food! Im sure the dept of transport would have something to say too! Seems ironic as the airline industry prides itself on being the safest form of travel.