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Old 5th Mar 2007, 21:19
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I don't really think the BHD to CDG (via Cardiff) really offers that much benefit to the consumer. A direct flight would be a huge success (if they use the right aircraft i.e. ERJ 145)

I think joe public now demands direct flights and the fact that Easyjet already offer this from BFS to CDG suggests to me it won't work via Cardiff.
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Do you think we could ever see a non-stop service from BHD to CDG in the near future?
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Surely the necessity of stopping off in Cardiff would be off putting to potential travellers, no?

Yes
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can't see the attraction of a 1 stop service even if you don't like orange
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 15:23
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bmi at bhd

Hi I am new to this forum - just a quick question - bmi seem to be operating 9 flights each direction on a Monday in March and this Friday (BHD-LHR) arriving in am and departing late afternoon does anybody know the reason for this

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Old 6th Mar 2007, 18:47
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I wonder will the acquisition of BA Connect help to improve FlyBe's customer service any? It can't make it any worse...
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 19:05
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RE Bmi at bhd

Monday and Friday extra flights bd098 lhrbhd arr 1145 bd099 bhdlhr 1615, are slot savers.
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Easyjet v Flybe

Well it looks as though Fly-be are certainly trying to dent Easyjet's dominance at Belfast this summer, with Newcastle up to 2 daily, Gatwick to 5 daily and a weak attempt at Paris via Cardiff (which BA operated with a J41 several years ago-I wonder how successful that was - considering there were no direct non-stop flights to Paris then). I suppose from Easyjet's point of view an early morning departure to Gatwick, double up on Paris with an early morning departure out (as per their plans at Bristol) This would probably involve the addition of one aircraft (which I suppose is due at some point in the near future) With holiday flights leaving later in the day the six dedicated aircraft could serve the London's (3) Paris (1) Bristol (1) and Amsterdam (1) or 'Brussels' (The EEC capital missing from Belfast since 2001) with the additional aircraft a few extra holiday additions could also be thrown in like a Saturday flight to La Rochelle (what a waste that Ibiza flight is this summer) maybe a couple to Venice 'one can dream'
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 19:58
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Hello all, just wondering what you guys think of potential for BHD-DUB... was quite surprised when i heard noone's doing it, despite the short distance (surely it's no different than MAN-LHR/LGW, on a smaller scale)! There must be the demand by businessmen as well as tourists, as DUB has far more scheduled international destinations than BFS, no?
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 20:13
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Bhd - Dub

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RE tried BHD to DUB and it lasted for only a few weeks or so. Incidently according to the AA; Dublin to Belfast via road is only 166km (1hr 56mins), Manchester to London is 321km (3hrs 53 mins). Plus the M1 in Ireland is a pleasure to drive on in comparison to the car park that is the M6. Once the last stretch of road between Newry and Dundalk in dualed journey times will be reduced yet further.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 20:21
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Ah ok thanks Devonair. I was going by train times for the comparison with MAN-LON... 2 hours compared to 2 1/2! I'm assuming it was low pax numbers that stopped RE? Do you know what a/c they were using?
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 21:20
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An ATR42, or was it 72, but an ATR anyway.

As for an early morning departure BFS-LGW, it's been discussed before and isn't happening as they don't have the slots for it. At the minute all BFS-LGW and LGW-BFS are operated by LGW based A319s. Not sure about a 6th? based 737 either in BFS, some have already started leaving the fleet and not sure what availability there is.
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Old 6th Mar 2007, 21:43
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That old BA classic route BA7801 CWL-CDG BA7802 CDG-BHD/BFS-ABN BA7805 ABN-BHD/BFS-CWL-CDG BA7806 CDG-CWL (a bit of nostalgia-9yrs ago) I think this operated via BHD until about 99 then moved to BFS, and I think if was a wee J41
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 01:49
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easyjet expansion..not

Reality check guys. There is no 6th airframe, no early LGW and no doubling up on CDG. The writing has been on that wall for ages. The lack of effective response to Jet2 moving in on EZY routes should've spelled it out clearly. Ezy are busy frying Non UK fish. Their eye is not on the BFS ball. Open season for other carriers methinks
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 13:51
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I cannot understand the obsession which airlines seem to have with bhd particulary so called business airlines. Most travellers who use NI airports originate from NI. Apart from North Down, East Belfast and the Ards area, all other areas of NI have to travel into congested Belfast if they want to fly to say LHR. It would seem to me that people are voting with their feet (quite literally today) by using alternatives-declining numbers since bmi moved - also the passenger figures for STN - BHD are on the face of it very poor. (Easy jet untouched after Air Berlin operating for nearly one year now). I wonder if there is a very limited market for BHD which the airlines who use it refuse to accept.
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 14:11
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I agree with you totally.

If you live in the Northwest and need an early flight, it's bad enough getting to Bfs without having to drive past it to Bhd. I know since Lhr moved to Bhd, I rarely use it, use Lgw instead if possible. And I would be a fairly regular traveller.

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Old 7th Mar 2007, 14:31
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Even if you have to use any route into Belfast including M2/M1, Saintfield road, etc etc between 0700-0930 in the morning 1600-1800 in the evening and you want to catch a plane or arrive back in the province forget it. And any way if your plane arrives in after 2330 or so, or its windy your up to Aldergrove any way, then in a bus back down to the City to get your car, then your stuck in traffic (if its windy during rush hour). So really operating hours of Bhd are 06.30-07.00, 09.30-16.00, 18.00-21.30 for the travelling public with regard to road congestion. The only problem is no LHR at Aldergrove, no signs of Emirates yet anybody
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 15:15
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Hi All,

New Cityjet Routes now on sale!


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Old 7th Mar 2007, 15:31
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Just had a look, out on a Monday morning and back on a Friday afternoon or evening - Total £ 448.40 - reminds me of the good old days before Easyjet!
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Old 7th Mar 2007, 20:03
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Looks like CityJet have priced this one way out of any Leisure travellers reach. I also can see Business Users finding prices a little too steep as well I get the feeling that CityJet's heart isn't in this one

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Old 7th Mar 2007, 20:19
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I imagine it may well be Scot Airways that set the prices (or at least they'll want so much from Cityjet for operating the services) as they are the ones who are operating it
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