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Old 3rd Apr 2007, 14:17
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BFS

Yes! The viewing gallery is closed at BFS as Lounge/Gate 17 which is below it is being rebuilt and entended. This work is due to last well into June. Not sure how long the Viewing gallery is going to be closed for.

It's about time that Lounge was refurbished. It hasnt changed since the 80's

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Old 3rd Apr 2007, 15:28
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Resident groups in the vicinity of BHD do not fear, you will not have to endure your pain for much longer, as its just a matter of time before the price of land rises to an extent whereby the owners will place an application in for thousands of housing units, light industrial and retail units to be developed on the site, and sell it to a developer to make a nice we profit.
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Old 3rd Apr 2007, 21:21
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Little birdie told me a new gate and bridge, lounge etc being built for bmi and they may operate out of both airports as soon as march next year.
BFS holding arms open wide I believe the comment was "what ever it takes"
bmi need the late slot and still a big number like BHD for convenience, hope they do use both

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Old 4th Apr 2007, 13:21
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Heard this Rumour at the weekend from a BMI Crew member based at BHD! From what I heard they want a separate lounge/gate area designed for BMI/BMI baby.

Could this have something to do with the demolishing of the old BA buildings beside the business centre. This would create additional apron space and the ability of building an additional pier at this side of the terminal.

Anyone now anything more about this?

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Old 4th Apr 2007, 18:35
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If i was BMI I would want a new terminal too. Passengers used 2 BHD would be a bit pissed off at finding themselves in the BFS terminal seeing as its fairly awful. They're not expecting the BFS people to may for it though are they?
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Old 4th Apr 2007, 18:59
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If bmi were to split there services between BFS/BHD (seems unlikely) what way do you think they would operate it. I suppose they could have the LHR based plane inbound first thing to BHD, Belfast based plane BFS to LHR first flight from Belfast out, giving longest possible day in London for NI folk. But do you think it would really work. Would BMI's thinking be to put off an operator for LHR setting up at BFS eg Aer Lingus or a return by BA.
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Old 4th Apr 2007, 19:20
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Funny how aviation goes in cycles. A few years ago BMI hoofed off to BHD in a huff because BFS was pandering to orange whims. Now having let Easy rule the roost for several years, they want back in? From a pax point of view its a winner because it would be nice to have a london service in BFS with allocated seating but it really sounds more like 'oops landing fee deals are up for renewal, let pretend we're thinking of moving'
Maybe it would wake up the sleeping dinosaurs in LTN too before their patch is danced on properly.
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Old 5th Apr 2007, 06:26
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Richardnei mentioned a rumour about the site of the old BA cargo centre, isn't that the proposed site for the new 'east terminal'. Is it cost effective for an airport to have 2 non eu departure terminals. The reason I am asking is that in the old days domestic was seperate from international, whereas now its eu and non eu for obvious reasons. I think the new east terminal was planned to be a kind of business terminal. So from an economical point of view, could you have the likes of Easyjet, Jet2, Bmibaby, Zoom all charter airlines operating out of the 'west terminal', present complex, and Continental, bmi (if they moved all or part of their operations up) and any other business airline that Bfs would attract (Delta, Emirates etc) operate out at a premium from a new east terminal. I mean at present there would only be 1 business flight a day (Continental), but if the new terminal had an adjoining covered carpark, minimum walking distance car-plane, quiet modern equiped business lounge it may win over business folk who find bhd more convient. The thought of not being outside from leaving the house and almost guaranted to be landing at the same airport where the car is parked. Any thoughts!!
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Old 5th Apr 2007, 15:43
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Would this mean that the existing Bank of Ireland Businness Lounge at BFS would close and that bmi/bmibaby would use that lounge for their flights? And if so would they move half of the bmi ground staff from BHD to BFS?
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Old 5th Apr 2007, 19:41
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I think it would be good for BMI to move to BFS.. 1) because they wouldnt need as many flights as there is already a good London connection from the airport leaving BMI with good gaps in there timetables which can lead to new routes and 2) it will help draw more business to bmibaby!

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Old 6th Apr 2007, 09:13
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This is my last word on this subject, but after reading on the LCY thread this morning I felt I had to write this. London City is operating under restrictions truly represtative of what an airport which operates in a residential area should do. A part from only small aircraft using it and other restrictions blah, blah, blah, today is a bank holiday and the airport remains closed until 0900 to give locals a lie in. And I think the same thing happens on a Sunday morning were it remains closed until some time late morning. This is a planning restriction which the airport actually obeys no early arrivals permitted to land. Far cry from bhd's policy 'determined to expand beyond all boundaries' and not take on board the rights of locals.
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 10:53
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I'm surprised anyone can even hear aeroplanes over the sound of whinging. House prices go up and suddenly there's NIMBYs everywhere.
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 15:39
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and not take on board the rights of locals
They're a business and specifically what rights are being infringed?

I'm not wholly on the side of the airport but there alwasy has to be compromise. It's when one side seems so inflexible that I start to lose sympathy. The same could be said for both the airport and the residents however in this case. I'm probably going to side with the airport because I like using it and it doesn't annoy me too much in my day to day life.
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 15:31
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Oh, just wait till you hear the outcry when the early morning departures start on Sundays in a couple of weeks!! Thats just from the guys that have to get up and get them airborne!!
But you didn`t hear it from me, alright!!


Gate22, Lcy is pretty exclusively a buisness airport, so not much call for early flights Sundays or Bank Holidays. There are only a couple of inbounds of BHD before 10.30 on any given Sunday by which time most of the locals should be up picketing the Bangor road to highlight noise pollution or maybe even Translink as that damn railway line is way too close to the houses. I`m sure all those who complain about the noise would gladly accept a policy of one vehicle per household for themselves to cut down on noise in their area! Yeah, thought so!
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Old 12th Apr 2007, 22:00
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anybody heard anything more regarding bmi? A move of half of the flights to bfs might work because, although bmi in the past were unsuccessful with 5 flights from bfs and 8 from bhd before march 2003, this would mean that the whole heathrow operation from Belfast would have 5 from each airport. In the past bmi tried to have the eight flights from bhd, plus an additional 4 or 5 form bfs, which was simply too many flights. I know some might say there was once 14 flights a day with BA and BMI, but after BA axed people lost alot of interest in flying to Heathrow and they went for easyjet who were expanding on their london routes at the time. But now, people living in the 5 counties in NI other than county Down are starting to wake up and realise that they are actually having to travel further to get to bhd, get up earlier, sit in pain in the backside traffic and therefore want flights to be put back at bfs.
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 07:08
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Wizz

Has anyone any idea of how well or otherwise Wizz bookings are holding up? They have done next to no advertising in NI so I suspect they must be concentrating on the Polish market. When do flights actually start?
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 11:48
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Pity to hear about the lack of advertising

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Old 20th Apr 2007, 20:58
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Does anyone know why bmi seem to have 2 early morning departures within 45 of each other from BHD to LHR?

06:30 and 07:10, that means two airbuses nightstopping (must be getting crowded up there!)

Seems unusual. It may be increases in business pax but maybe I'm wrong?
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 22:46
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Yes! 2 Early Morning departures from BHD.

06:30 - A319
07:10 - A320

I've heard the loads on the 06:30 departure are not great but the 07:10 is always full. 06:30 may be to early for most business pax.

I think this is operating throughout the Summer.

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Old 23rd Apr 2007, 10:08
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I believe its a slot saver for LHR also.
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