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Old 25th Nov 2006, 21:22
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The new economy Pier is about in place, tests were ongoing last week lol

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Old 25th Nov 2006, 21:31
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hehe, yeh thats about right for EMA
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Old 25th Nov 2006, 23:29
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
The new economy Pier is about in place, tests were ongoing last week lol
Not quite... The EMA pier actually a flat-pack self-assembly affair made out of uprights and corrogated boarding - "airport piers" can usually be found between "garden sheds" and "gazebos" in larger B&Q Depot branches!
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Old 26th Nov 2006, 13:19
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I know we all like to joke, but joking aside, has anybody actually seen pictures of what the terminal is going to look like on May 1st 2007, when the airport is certain that all this new building work is going to be finished? It seems that they're doing the best that they can given the financial circumstances, though it would be nice for there to be more feedback opportunities for those from within the airport to make suggestions.

I'm really pleased to see some of the new bmibaby routes from BHX, as it does offer some hope for what we could have from EMA if we get the sixth based aircraft which is either coming here or going to CWL it seems. I've heard a lot about twice-daily ABZ plus two sun routes offered from the BHX programme but not here. Rumours also abound that FAO will be twice weekly next summer rather than the current Saturday-only offering.
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Old 26th Nov 2006, 19:19
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Obviously we can expect tomorrow morning when easyJet launch their Summer 2007 schedule the same routes as always; AGP, ALC, FAO, VCE, CIA, PRG & CGN. We really shouldn't complain because they provide a steady flow of passengers, seem to be doing very successfully ploughing the same old routes, and there seems to be a case for why expand if there's no need? The airline has not assigned any new aircraft for EMA in 07 as part of their expansion plans, they do have 3 aircraft not assigned to any particular base, but I don't see any coming here. I can imagine there are a number of airports locally who would love to have easyJet's operation; Coventry, Doncaster/Sheffield, maybe even Birmingham - but if I remember correctly EZY put out a tender in April for these airports, and nothing really came of them so they've stuck here. With the new contract due to be signed any time soon if the current one ends in February, it'll be interesting to see what they come up with. I doubt they'll leave, as I can't see where they'd go at such short notice.

Any idea what the number of based aircraft and routes is looking like for Thomsonfly? I've heard one B733, one B752 and one B763.

Also any handling news?
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Old 26th Nov 2006, 20:02
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Lite, I've heard that EMA are in the running for one of those unallocated easyJet A319's but like most on here I won't hold my breath! I fully expect the 'normal' routes only to go on sale tomorrow. I think the airport has more chance of getting an additional baby than an additional easyJet.

Not sure on Thomsonfly, 1xB738 and 2xB757's maybe? There B767's are more sparse now due to retiring the B762's.
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Old 26th Nov 2006, 22:02
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Interesting info re DSA, CVT and BHX.

There have been several rumours that BHX were more than interested
(and well before flybe/Bacon news) in doing deals and Easy was one of the ones mentioned. Usual source, a friend of a friend of a man down the pub but you would hope that BHX would keep an open mind or should I say open line to all airlines (well except one!).

Trouble is, what BHX call a deal and what Easy call a deal is probably
miles apart. Whether Easy would want the bother of fighting with BE
and WW when money can probably me made elsewhere is another
matter.



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Old 26th Nov 2006, 23:01
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I'm in total agreement that the EMA base will probably stay with three based aircraft for another five years, because easyJet must be earning some money for them not to pull out and also realised that there is no room for them to feasibly expand. A lot of easyJet's major cities are now in close competition to routes already served at reasonable frequencies by Ryanair, bmibaby or Thomsonfly. They could easily add two or three new routes even without adding any more aircraft just by tightening up the schedule, but tomorrow I think will only bring the same routes as we've seen many times before. Whatever happens, let's just hope for my sake that if they're around EMA next summer that they stick with Servisair!

Where are Thomsonfly getting their B738s from? I know there are a few airports like LTN, DSA & NCL who all seem to be expecting these planes for next summer, though I didn't know that TOM had any on order.
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 18:57
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I had the same thoughts Lite, IF easyJet were to expand from NEMA I would struggle to see which routes they might go for.
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 20:06
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Where are Thomsonfly getting their B738s from? I know there are a few airports like LTN, DSA & NCL who all seem to be expecting these planes for next summer, though I didn't know that TOM had any on order.
14.08.2006 The UK's third largest airline Thomsonfly has today announced the planned purchase of five new Boeing aircraft over as part of a series of investments and initiatives to increase the efficiency of its airline operation.
Two Boeing 737-300s will be new to the Thomsonfly fleet and the airline will also take delivery of three brand new Boeing 737-800 aircraft direct from the airline manufacturer in the first quarter of next year.


No new easyJet routes as expected
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 20:49
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Originally Posted by phil_2405 View Post
Lite, I've heard that EMA are in the running for one of those unallocated easyJet A319's but like most on here I won't hold my breath! I fully expect the 'normal' routes only to go on sale tomorrow. I think the airport has more chance of getting an additional baby than an additional easyJet..
I really don't see it happening myself, it would be nice it really would but I really don't think it's going to happen.
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 21:51
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Why should easyjet throw extra aircraft into the Midlands Low cost 'battle ground' when they can make more money placing them in Europe?

Coventry doesn't fit.

Birmingham would do but their charges are too expensive.

As always, time will tell . There should be no surprises in this game!


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Old 27th Nov 2006, 22:23
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I think we would all agree with you Binder but apparently EZY are considering it.
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 09:42
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I've not long ago recieved an e-mai from easyJet with regards to the summer flights now on sale from EMA, here is what part of it says:

"Many of your favourite destinations from Nottingham East Midlands are now on sale, including Malaga, Alicante, Palma and Faro, so you're bound to find some fantastic fares. But at our low prices, summer demand is going to be hot, hot, hot so don't delay!"

Palma Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I think this is an error
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 10:59
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With greatest respect to easyJet's EMA based crew, you have to wonder both how important the base if for easyJet, and how important it is for the airport to have easyJet there. The base hasn't expanded since easyJet's arrival (under Go) in 2002, and since then there has been expansion onto traditional easyJet routes from other low-cost airlines, meaning expansion has to be limited. I don't doubt that the base in it's current guise is profitable, otherwise easyJet would have pulled out, but unlike other markets where easyJet seem to dominate, they are a relatively small fry in the midlands market. From the airport's perspective they have three stands which are currently being utilised by an airline that appears to have no interest in expansion, when perhaps they could be better used by one of the other low-cost airlines.
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 11:16
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If it ain't broke there is no need to fix it.

Yes expansion for EZY would be great, for the airport, crew's and passengers, but there is absolutley no need to make changes if it works perfectly well - which it does.
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 11:38
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easyJet - easyboy, surely the "if it aint broke don't fix it" proverb doesn't apply to expansion. If you are expanding a profitable business, you are not trying to fix it, you are trying to make more profit - and that is what airlines want to do - make profit.

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On a different subject - I am trying to get from EMA - BRU on 26/12, but it seems that BD have no flights for the whole week from 23/12 - 31/12. Are BD leaving the ERJ parked up at EMA for the whole week?

Anyway - I called BD, Reservations now no longer seems to be at Donington Hall, but has been outsourced overseas. I asked for flights from East Midlands to Brussels and the very helpful Res Agent said "I'm sorry, we don't fly from East Midlands - you need to call bmibaby." I said, "I'm very sure british midland do fly East Midlands to Brussels." She said she would check. "Oh yes, we do fly, but only twice a week now. We fly East Midlands to Brussels on Mondays and Tuesdays only." I said that doesn't really make sense, can you check. She "checked" and said " Yes, only twice a week."

A quick call to Donington Hall confirmed that maybe outsourcing the airline's main reservations centre overseas was not the best idea!

So......I am still trying to get EMABRU on 26DEC. Have checked BHX but SN fly too late in the day. Eurostar it is then.
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 16:33
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bmi regional have cancelled most of the flights between xmas and new year on the BRU route, up to around the 7th of Jan
There are flights from LHR on 26/12
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 17:05
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Are bmi regional operating their full schedule to BRU from LBA?
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 17:38
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easyJet started out with such promise from EMA, it has been a shame that they now appear to have been hemmed in by all of the previously mentioned low-cost airlines at EMA, as well as the further competition that comes from Coventry and Birmingham. I have been surprised that easyJet haven't considered expanding from Doncaster-Sheffield considering EZY's very good relationship with Peel Holdings who also own Liverpool their second UK base, and there is no way that easyJet would consider having bases at the two airports. As DSA is hoping to expand at quite a rapid pace with Thomsonfly unable really to fill that as a predominantly holiday airline, easyJet would appear to be the ideal airport partner, it'd be interesting to know if DSA had put in some sort of tender for easyJet and more so what EMA has offered to keep easyJet here.
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