KLM

[MerchantVenturer]

According to the KLM web booking engine AMS-BRS and AMS-CWL stay at 4 times daily in Nov, Dec and March. They drop to 3 x daily in Jan and Feb with the lunchtime rotations removed.

This happened on both routes last winter as well.

[mathers_wales_uk]

Does anybody know when the Embraers are due to come online and which a/c type they will be replacing?

More problems at CWL today where KL1060 has been cancelled and the KL1066 (following flight) downgraded to F50. KL1069 also downgraded to F70.

Over the last few days we have seen the KL1060 being canx and F50 has ben in the last 3 days and will return again tomorrow.

Considering CWL is now a 5 crown station and is one of the priority stations, how come it is us thats getting all the rubbish?

[airhumberside]

According to the KLM web booking engine AMS-BRS and AMS-CWL stay at 4 times daily in Nov, Dec and March. They drop to 3 x daily in Jan and Feb with the lunchtime rotations removed.

This happened on both routes last winter as well.

Same with HUY too according to Amadeus

[goldeneye]

Klm Md11

Can anyone tell me what routes KLM currently use the MD11.
I Know they operate to YVR & YUL.

[aeulad]

Has anyone any experience of KLM staff travel procedures at AMS? Is there a seperate check in area?

Regards

Mike

[Seljuk22]

MD11 summer 2010: Bonaire–Guayaquil–Quito–Bonaire, Dehli, Montreal, Panama, Paramaribo, St.Maarten-Bonaire, Tehran, Vancouver

Maybe the same during winter?

[the_stranger]

@aeulad

No there is no seperate staff travel checkin anymore, it has been removeed some months ago.
You can however use the self checkin machines or go to a staffed desk. (or even checkin online)

[aeulad]

Great! Thanks for the tips! After I have checked in, do I go to the gate like in the USA, or do I find out whether I am on or not before security?

Danke Weld

Mike

[the_stranger]

Depends on the number of pax. If the flight is really empty, they might give you a seat. If not, you have to report at the gate and about 20 mins before departure they will, or will not, give you a seat.

[aeulad]

Great! Thanks! With BA at Heathrow you have to wait at check in if you are not onloaded straight away to find out if you have a seat. AMS sounds more like the states where you go to the gate, which I prefer, as there is no rushing through security!

Regards

Mike

[wawkrk]

Are KLM losing the plot?.
LBA-AMS return 2 pax economy, 198 pounds.Fine.
Euroselect (Premium economy) 1,200 pounds!
For what? Similar seat surrounded by empty ones and bigger rotten snack that nobody wants.Oh,and a pelmet disguised as a curtain.
Bye bye cloggies.You have been devoured by the frogs.

[No RYR for me]

that is an art called yield managent. If you dont know how it works go and do your homework. Re the frogs. Because the Cloggies are better at yield management they have made more money than the frogs even though the frogs have MUCH better food.. so go figure

[Capetonian]

even though the frogs have MUCH better food.

I wouldn't agree on that. The average meal you get in a restaurant in Holland is far better than the unvarying poncy dross dished up in France by a surly unwashed waiter. For me the Clogs win on all counts.

[bobleeds]

No RYR for me,

Having read many of wawkrk's well informed posts on this board, I'm sure he does not need to do any homework on Yield Management.

Perhaps the same cannot be said for KLM sales, because at the price of £1,200 those seats will be the highest yielding empty seats on the aircraft.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by bobleeds

No RYR for me,

Having read many of wawkrk's well informed posts on this board, I'm sure he does not need to do any homework on Yield Management.

Perhaps the same cannot be said for KLM sales, because at the price of £1,200 those seats will be the highest yielding empty seats on the aircraft.

It's pretty easy to kick revenue management, but one piece of information we're missing is how far in advance of travel the original poster is booking. Several carriers I know of (Aer Lingus for one, potentially KLM for another) set their premium economy/full flex fare at a single level and don't change it as they get closer to the date of travel. That means that the premium economy fare looks completely uncompetitive until a few days before travel, when the economy fare has climbed far enough to catch up with it.

If I look at the fares for LBA-AMS-LBA for tomorrow, the cheapest economy round-trip fare is STG£537.50. At that point, the option of paying another £62.50 to get lounge access, fast track, full refundability, etc, doesn't look quite so stupid.

Now of course you can reasonably argue that an airline should offer advance-purchase premium-economy fares, and I wouldn't disagree, but it seems to me that right now KLM (or Aer Lingus, as the other example I know of) is choosing to make their Europe Select fares attractive only for late bookers.

C.

[pwalhx]

It is quite probable the seats wont be empty but will be occupied by people flying further afield, which I venture to suggest is exactly the passenger KLM want in those seats, not filled by someone just going to AMS or somewhere shorthaul.

[wawkrk]

The fares I looked at were for February next year.As a Flying Blue Platinum for life member I am just a few air miles short to get through to Sydney with 2business class award tickets.
The value of air miles seems to have come down over the last few years. In the past I already used 2 business class award tickets to Hong Kong and Singapore and 2 to Cyprus.Euro Select always seems to be quite empty to me and is poor value for money.

[kang_yu_chen]

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

Does anyone know which Weight and Balance System is being used at KLM?

[OntimeexceptACARS]

CODECO, as far as I know.

[Currock Base]

The going to move to Amadeus Altea Flight Management.