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The other day I was due to return from Amsterdam to the states and patiently awaited the aircraft to come to the gate. Must be 747-400, A340 or something......Nope, a 737 in Swiss Air colors parks there. Im saying, here we go another gate change.
Not even, it turns out this puppy is not only going across the pond, its going to Houston. Amazing.
Bottom line is it was a 737-700 with range out the kazoo. Further that it was configured for only 44 pax. (I was going World Business)
Trip was great, weather was great, staff were great and with only about 20 pax on board,(no screaming kindersh1ts) a very pleasant experience.
So to those of you who may have some influence.ha ha. Please suggest to KLM that they do this on the Amsterdam/Johannesburg routing......Its obviously capable.
Thanks Privat Air/KLM
Not even, it turns out this puppy is not only going across the pond, its going to Houston. Amazing.
Bottom line is it was a 737-700 with range out the kazoo. Further that it was configured for only 44 pax. (I was going World Business)
Trip was great, weather was great, staff were great and with only about 20 pax on board,(no screaming kindersh1ts) a very pleasant experience.
So to those of you who may have some influence.ha ha. Please suggest to KLM that they do this on the Amsterdam/Johannesburg routing......Its obviously capable.
Thanks Privat Air/KLM
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KLM have been operating this service for a while now, and it's proving to be very popular. Privatair crew operate using KLM service (as you know)
Rumours around the company are that we will start to operate using our own crew/aircraft, I can't see it myself. There are also rumours of Dubai being operated on the Privatair 737, we'll see. Glad you enjoyed it.
Rumours around the company are that we will start to operate using our own crew/aircraft, I can't see it myself. There are also rumours of Dubai being operated on the Privatair 737, we'll see. Glad you enjoyed it.
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From the BBC website
KLM unveils fuel surcharge cuts
KLM had vowed to keep an eye on oil prices
Airline KLM Royal Dutch has announced it is cutting its fuel surcharges, after a fall in oil prices.
The group said international fuel surcharges would fall by 5 euros ($6.34; £3.36), while the charge on flights in Europe would fall by 1 euro.
Oil prices have fallen to around $61 a barrel, after surging to record highs above $78 in July.
KLM last month promised to review oil prices and cut tariffs once oil prices dropped below $70 for 30 days in a row.
Airline fuel surcharges had been rising with oil prices, and KLM - which is part of Air France KLM - raised its fuel surcharge most recently on 10 August.
KLM's decision comes a day after the group's freight operation announced it was cutting its fuel charges, citing falling oil prices.
KLM unveils fuel surcharge cuts
KLM had vowed to keep an eye on oil prices
Airline KLM Royal Dutch has announced it is cutting its fuel surcharges, after a fall in oil prices.
The group said international fuel surcharges would fall by 5 euros ($6.34; £3.36), while the charge on flights in Europe would fall by 1 euro.
Oil prices have fallen to around $61 a barrel, after surging to record highs above $78 in July.
KLM last month promised to review oil prices and cut tariffs once oil prices dropped below $70 for 30 days in a row.
Airline fuel surcharges had been rising with oil prices, and KLM - which is part of Air France KLM - raised its fuel surcharge most recently on 10 August.
KLM's decision comes a day after the group's freight operation announced it was cutting its fuel charges, citing falling oil prices.
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First time for everything I suppose, why has this only got anything to do with BA as apposed to all the other airlines or is this just a way to keep BA at the top of the thread list.
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Golden Ticket - You cynic!
It is not to keep BA at the top of the thread list.
As I work for BA, I find it IS a missed opportunity for BA.
It is also a missed opportunity by other airlines (especially Virgin).
It is not to keep BA at the top of the thread list.
As I work for BA, I find it IS a missed opportunity for BA.
It is also a missed opportunity by other airlines (especially Virgin).
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I am totally at a loss to understand some airfare rules.
I want to book Leeds - Moscow. 7thDec.
Return fare - 214GBP, fantastic.
But, one way fare (which I need) 1,081GBP !!!!
What do they do with all those empty seats when the pax throw the unused
return ticket in the rubbish bin?.
I want to book Leeds - Moscow. 7thDec.
Return fare - 214GBP, fantastic.
But, one way fare (which I need) 1,081GBP !!!!
What do they do with all those empty seats when the pax throw the unused
return ticket in the rubbish bin?.
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I'm not quite sure how they work, but have often found myself booking "dummy" returns to get a cheaper sector.
Whether this makes a difference in a country like Russia where you need a VISA, I don't know.
Whether this makes a difference in a country like Russia where you need a VISA, I don't know.
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What do they do with all those empty seats when the pax throw the unused
return ticket in the rubbish bin?.
return ticket in the rubbish bin?.
Oh, and incidentally, return fares being much cheaper than single fares is neither new nor unique to KLM - carriers have been doing this for decades.
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(Oh, and incidentally, return fares being much cheaper than single fares is neither new nor unique to KLM - carriers have been doing this for decades.)
Yes I know its not new I have been doing dummy tickets for many years but I have never seen a fare which cost 5 times more for single before.
Not all mainline airlines have this policy now.
The LOCOS I think never.
Yes I know its not new I have been doing dummy tickets for many years but I have never seen a fare which cost 5 times more for single before.
Not all mainline airlines have this policy now.
The LOCOS I think never.
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I thought seen as KLM is a big player in the UK market, it was worth starting a new thread with a little update.
This winter will see some changes to the KLM UK network.
Aberdeen goes from 4 flights a day to 5
Bristol goes from 4 flights a day to 3
Cardiff goes from 4 flights a day to 3
Edinburgh gets 2 737-700 flights a day
Glasgow gets 1 737-700 flight a day
Humberside goes from 4 flights a day to 3
Newcastle gets 1 737-800 flight a day
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Mike
This winter will see some changes to the KLM UK network.
Aberdeen goes from 4 flights a day to 5
Bristol goes from 4 flights a day to 3
Cardiff goes from 4 flights a day to 3
Edinburgh gets 2 737-700 flights a day
Glasgow gets 1 737-700 flight a day
Humberside goes from 4 flights a day to 3
Newcastle gets 1 737-800 flight a day
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Mike
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EDI and GLA have had 737s operating various KL flights for years now - Forgive my lack of knowledge, but why are 737-700 flights worthy of special mention? Are they new to the KL fleet or something?
Wrt Scottish flights, this appeared a couple of weeks ago: Air France KLM set to expand service from Scottish airports - Scotsman.com Business
Apart from the extra ABZ flight, not really much in the way of the expansion suggested - Not on KL's behalf anyway. Perhaps something to come from AF?
Wrt Scottish flights, this appeared a couple of weeks ago: Air France KLM set to expand service from Scottish airports - Scotsman.com Business
Apart from the extra ABZ flight, not really much in the way of the expansion suggested - Not on KL's behalf anyway. Perhaps something to come from AF?
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Forgiving your "lack of knowledge"- 737-700's have never operated to Scotland for KLM, and yes they are new to the fleet. Well worthy of a mention IMHO 
. It will be interesting to see if this is an upgrade from F70/100/50 on some services or downgrade from 738/9's.
. It will be interesting to see if this is an upgrade from F70/100/50 on some services or downgrade from 738/9's.