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Old 14th Oct 2006, 11:43
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Originally Posted by Wellington Bomber
Seriously though MSE could have been a domestic haven for FR, airports like MME, HUY etc which could be seen too close to STN could have been considered?
3hrs by road is quite close to Humberside, NOT![/quote]


3hrs you sure how about 5hrs. Is there any more news on that airline that was ment to start from MSE?

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Old 14th Oct 2006, 15:55
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3hrs by road is quite close to Humberside, NOT!
It would be about 30 mins in the air to STN, plus the trains serve the same side of London.

If a London flight was to work it would be best to the south, as i suggested MSE is in an ok place, the type of place FR would take over and call 'London Manston' or something.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 18:29
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With the new dommestic high speed trains which start in a few years time from Ramsgate a Rail Link would give a transit time of about an hour to London, less to the new stations at Stratford and Ebbsfleet.
Worth thinking about ?.
There are a lot of rumours about new airlines, I parked for a while this morning at MSE and heard some. lets wait and see.
I do think the airports done well to get back MK and get DAS in and Egypt Air Cargo in, we should see a lot more flights in the run up to xmas.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 20:34
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"There are a lot of rumours about new airlines, I parked for a while this morning at MSE and heard some. "

Having passed through the airport myself today I can well believe that you all stood round swopping "rumours." There certainly wasn't anything else to day because there was nothing using the airport.

Interesting "information" obtained directly from a representative who was present at this week's airport consultative committee. When the Airport Director was asked about the "rumour" about a fuel farm he told the questioner that he shouldn't listen to rumours. Looks like someone has been using Pprune to post porkies. Was it the same person who posted the porkie that Easyjet were coming to Manston? I think we should be told.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 21:00
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Having passed through the airport myself today I can well believe that you all stood round swopping "rumours." There certainly wasn't anything else to day because there was nothing using the airport.
Not strictly true, there were two cargo arrivals today. Agreed not a busy day but I feel I must nitpick as it seems that is all you do.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 21:28
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Well, I heard a rumour they are going to turn it into a theme park.
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Old 14th Oct 2006, 22:02
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I hear a EAF 732 my favorite Airline is coming into MSE on sunday hope its a good time then I can go there by train.

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Old 15th Oct 2006, 13:06
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Esperia Flights

The Esperia web site seems to coming back to life again saying flights from Dec 2006.
anyone know whats going on ?
I know the web site has never been much good. But the old EUJET building has a Esperia logo in a window, the Airport must know whats going on.
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 14:46
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The airport can surely only stagnate further. Despite all the rumours the field is still and will remain to far from London. I could not understand anyway why you are going to come out of London with 4 major airports to travel from - to Ramsgate to go where exactly. EUjet tried and it was clear to all that the catchment area is not large enough or interested enough to travel from there. Lets hope that I am entirely incorrect.
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 18:10
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Does anyone know how pax the EAF 737-200 was today?
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 18:32
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THANKS Will not reply to any more

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Old 15th Oct 2006, 18:42
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Just to put the record straight, Infratil are talking to Easyjet and Flybe, but that doesn't mean anything will come of it.

Esperia website is far from alive, maybe something up and running for Summer schedule 2007.

HZ 123. 400,000 pax flew with EUjet. Southampton started with 300,000. There are enough pax who would use MSE if the routes and schedule are right.
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 20:19
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Originally Posted by Herne Bay
THANKS Will not reply to any more

? what no more for manston or CF & DD

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Old 16th Oct 2006, 07:39
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MDIS I cannot see your point SOU has been going ever since and has operated pax services for the last 40 years. Manston does not enjoy that distinction and has only ever been a bit part player.
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 11:27
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I worked at SOU when the new terminal was completed. MSE has proved that 400,000 pax would use the airport in the first year. My point is that SOU only had 300,000 in its first year at the new terminal which is far smarter than MSE.

If MSE can attract 400,000 in year one with only basic facilities there should be a future as a regional airport handling 1 Million pax.

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Originally Posted by HZ123
MDIS I cannot see your point SOU has been going ever since and has operated pax services for the last 40 years. Manston does not enjoy that distinction and has only ever been a bit part player.
But am I not right that a few airlines have pulled out off SOU and gone to BOH Air Berlin and a few charters?

Easyjet at MSE Thought they would foces more on LGW?

James

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Old 16th Oct 2006, 19:21
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Local News

LYX have pulled a PR coup over MSE.

TDC and MSE have constantly refused an Environmental Impact Assessment.

LYX actively commissioned one and have passed with flying colours, according to local rag. Guess they can now market themselves as the "environmentally friendlier airport". Bird strikes no problem, runway extension ok etc.

In same rag - Tony Freudmann (Norfolk Virginia consultant) telling tourism types that MSE-Norfolk will bring bring £20m tourism revenue to Kent.
Nice enough chap, but I do remember attending public meetings when he was at Wiggins, when he predicted something like 3m pax at MSE by 2005!

Also....
1) Can't comment on SOU, but EUjet acheived pax figures through promo and freebies. For a clearer idea of PAX potential at MSE, look at Seguro load factors since spring 2006 - not good.

2) Actually, 2 cargo landings IS a busy day at MSE!
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 19:44
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Originally Posted by deedave
2) Actually, 2 cargo landings IS a busy day at MSE!
Crikey, do my eyes deceive me.......DD admits Manston was busy
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 20:55
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DD

SOU started at new terminal with the following:

Air UK F27s to and from Guernsey and Jersey
Aurigny with trislanders to Alderney
Air France Express to CDG
KLM Cityhopper to AMS
Manx ( British Regional) BA Express with J41 jetstreams 29 seats and £300 return to EDI, GLA, BRU, MAN,. Then moved up to 50 seat Embraers.

A LOCO with the right routes and the the right aircraft could do well at MSE.

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Old 16th Oct 2006, 21:19
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Originally Posted by deedave
2 cargo landings IS a busy day at MSE!

And there was a Passager flight by my favorite airline EAF

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