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could one take an F100 to Barrow from Perth direct, or do they have to stop somewhere on the way for security/customs (say BME)..
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Actually Bras is almost correct they have a AQIS inspection as it is and A class reserve.
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Bras bird, do you actually know where Barrow Island is ???
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PER-BWB might be doable? 
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Okay i am complelty lost...................................
Keeping myself down on all hand and knees there seems to be alot of talk of indeed Skywest will receieve any A320's its simple
"Where to put them"
Logical thinking PER - SYD PER - MEL sectors though slot issues at the common user terminal at perth will be a problem. Though they could run them up to DRW, BME and even SIN, DPS, CGK or Port headland - CKG = getting extremely good loads
"Getting another F50"
Okay now this is an
i remember 2yrs ago they had a Fokker 50 sitting on the ground for majority of the week and flying not much revenue service.
They were sourcing the aircraft to a local operator in Indonesia for that Fokker 50.
Okay thinking caps on. They have made a Fooker 50 freigher!!!! could it be one of them to operate the inland coast run with Horizon did years ago?
"More F100's"
Okay brilliant machines work well but a limited contracts and routes means where do they put them???? PER - KGI PER - ADL logical thinking.
Okay gtg run those beans need to be counted.
What u say guys / girls
Keeping myself down on all hand and knees there seems to be alot of talk of indeed Skywest will receieve any A320's its simple
"Where to put them"
Logical thinking PER - SYD PER - MEL sectors though slot issues at the common user terminal at perth will be a problem. Though they could run them up to DRW, BME and even SIN, DPS, CGK or Port headland - CKG = getting extremely good loads
"Getting another F50"
Okay now this is an
i remember 2yrs ago they had a Fokker 50 sitting on the ground for majority of the week and flying not much revenue service. They were sourcing the aircraft to a local operator in Indonesia for that Fokker 50.
Okay thinking caps on. They have made a Fooker 50 freigher!!!! could it be one of them to operate the inland coast run with Horizon did years ago?
"More F100's"
Okay brilliant machines work well but a limited contracts and routes means where do they put them???? PER - KGI PER - ADL logical thinking.
Okay gtg run those beans need to be counted.
What u say guys / girls
GC DISTANCE: PER-BWB 763nm
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Okay i am complelty lost...................................
Keeping myself down on all hand and knees there seems to be alot of talk of indeed Skywest will receieve any A320's its simple
"Where to put them"
Logical thinking PER - SYD PER - MEL sectors though slot issues at the common user terminal at perth will be a problem. Though they could run them up to DRW, BME and even SIN, DPS, CGK or Port headland - CKG = getting extremely good loads
"Getting another F50"
Okay now this is an i remember 2yrs ago they had a Fokker 50 sitting on the ground for majority of the week and flying not much revenue service.
They were sourcing the aircraft to a local operator in Indonesia for that Fokker 50.
Okay thinking caps on. They have made a Fooker 50 freigher!!!! could it be one of them to operate the inland coast run with Horizon did years ago?
"More F100's"
Okay brilliant machines work well but a limited contracts and routes means where do they put them???? PER - KGI PER - ADL logical thinking.
Okay gtg run those beans need to be counted.
What u say guys / girls
Keeping myself down on all hand and knees there seems to be alot of talk of indeed Skywest will receieve any A320's its simple
"Where to put them"
Logical thinking PER - SYD PER - MEL sectors though slot issues at the common user terminal at perth will be a problem. Though they could run them up to DRW, BME and even SIN, DPS, CGK or Port headland - CKG = getting extremely good loads
"Getting another F50"
Okay now this is an
i remember 2yrs ago they had a Fokker 50 sitting on the ground for majority of the week and flying not much revenue service. They were sourcing the aircraft to a local operator in Indonesia for that Fokker 50.
Okay thinking caps on. They have made a Fooker 50 freigher!!!! could it be one of them to operate the inland coast run with Horizon did years ago?
"More F100's"
Okay brilliant machines work well but a limited contracts and routes means where do they put them???? PER - KGI PER - ADL logical thinking.
Okay gtg run those beans need to be counted.
What u say guys / girls
As for the Fokker 50s, it won't be a freighter. Word around is that they are taking an ex-MAS machine that FlyAsianExpress aren't going to use. From what I hear those F50s are getting a workout at the moment, given they've picked up a couple of new routes under the last round of licensing. Also charter interest may be there (contract and ad hoc stuff), as well as just having another bird on the ground for when one goes u/s.
Fokker 100s - compete more with QF Link, use them to build routes and frequency matched with the A320s, take more contracts. PER could become quite a haven for this type with Alliance moving a couple over. From what I see the competition for more contract work is going to be particularly fierce between Skywest and Alliance as QF's 717s won't suffice at many ports and NJS is kind of limited with their BAes. Remember that Fortescue Metals and a hole bunch of others are likely to be opening up around Headland soon, so there should be plenty of FIFO work.
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I hear this call quite frequently when jaunting up the coast,
TRAFFIC BARROW ISLAND, QANTAS IFR BOEING 737 Ground, taxing for runway.......
So one would assume a F100 wouldnt have to much problem getting up there? Ive been lead to believe they are chartered flights etc.
Yeah everything going there gets licked and picked by the greenies as Barrow island is a untouched paradise of wildlife native only to the island. Great place to whack a few oil wells in hey? Fishing is pretty good behind the island though
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TRAFFIC BARROW ISLAND, QANTAS IFR BOEING 737 Ground, taxing for runway.......
So one would assume a F100 wouldnt have to much problem getting up there? Ive been lead to believe they are chartered flights etc.
Yeah everything going there gets licked and picked by the greenies as Barrow island is a untouched paradise of wildlife native only to the island. Great place to whack a few oil wells in hey? Fishing is pretty good behind the island though
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I think your ears might be damaged from those 4 spooled donkeys because no 737s go in there let alone the Qantas ones. Pavement strengths at the moment are huge a concern, in fact the 146's have to use F30 for TO. Although after the possible extensions, runway re-alignment, inter-planetary alignments and fitment of wings to pigs, a 737 may be able to go in there.
Food for thought:
It's all about rig tranfers with on-shore staff increasing as gorgon goes ahead. So what company is going to allow an A320 or a B737 for that matter, to sit on the ground for nearly 3 hours during the peak part of the flying day ie 0830 to 1130, while tranfers rotate? In saying all of this, currently QF has a 737 sitting on the ground at Karrachi for about 3 hours, but are not happy about it and will possibly change in the not too distant future.
Food for thought:
It's all about rig tranfers with on-shore staff increasing as gorgon goes ahead. So what company is going to allow an A320 or a B737 for that matter, to sit on the ground for nearly 3 hours during the peak part of the flying day ie 0830 to 1130, while tranfers rotate? In saying all of this, currently QF has a 737 sitting on the ground at Karrachi for about 3 hours, but are not happy about it and will possibly change in the not too distant future.
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Originally Posted by dodgybrothers
I think your ears might be damaged from those 4 spooled donkeys because no 737s go in there let alone the Qantas ones. Pavement strengths at the moment are huge a concern, in fact the 146's have to use F30 for TO. Although after the possible extensions, runway re-alignment, inter-planetary alignments and fitment of wings to pigs, a 737 may be able to go in there.
Food for thought:
It's all about rig tranfers with on-shore staff increasing as gorgon goes ahead. So what company is going to allow an A320 or a B737 for that matter, to sit on the ground for nearly 3 hours during the peak part of the flying day ie 0830 to 1130, while tranfers rotate? In saying all of this, currently QF has a 737 sitting on the ground at Karrachi for about 3 hours, but are not happy about it and will possibly change in the not too distant future.
Food for thought:
It's all about rig tranfers with on-shore staff increasing as gorgon goes ahead. So what company is going to allow an A320 or a B737 for that matter, to sit on the ground for nearly 3 hours during the peak part of the flying day ie 0830 to 1130, while tranfers rotate? In saying all of this, currently QF has a 737 sitting on the ground at Karrachi for about 3 hours, but are not happy about it and will possibly change in the not too distant future.
Barrow Island 03/21 1900m WID30 RWS150
Any 73 drivers want to elaborate?
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Hmmmm
Barrow Island 03/21 1900m WID30 RWS150
Any 73 drivers want to elaborate?
Barrow Island 03/21 1900m WID30 RWS150
Any 73 drivers want to elaborate?
We do Inverness in the UK in 300/700's at around 2000m with 20K engines and it isn't too limited. Temps will be a lot lower and I think it is wider than 30m though.
Hills on Barrow Island? A couple of hangars and flare stacks...unless you count the termite mounds. 
I'd think that you'd be temp limited out of Barrow. (Does a certain helo operator still use S76s out of there?)
I'd think that you'd be temp limited out of Barrow. (Does a certain helo operator still use S76s out of there?)
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Im almost 100% positive though that ive heard QF 73's on MC broadcasting their intentions because i thought it was very strange hearing a large a/c giving CTAF like calls when i only ever hear them using their flight numbers in CTA.
Another point is my old man and best mate do alot of drilling there, one being on a barge behind barrow right now, and when the last cyclone came through they evacuated the entire island with "large Qantas jets with engines on the wings" as my mate put it. I tried to probe him further deciphering between a 146 and a 73, however he said the seating was 3 and 3......sounds like a 73 to me!
Another point is my old man and best mate do alot of drilling there, one being on a barge behind barrow right now, and when the last cyclone came through they evacuated the entire island with "large Qantas jets with engines on the wings" as my mate put it. I tried to probe him further deciphering between a 146 and a 73, however he said the seating was 3 and 3......sounds like a 73 to me!
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4spool, flew into BWI for nearly 10 years, there was never a 737 there, unless they diverted due wx at KA, for reasons which have aleady been done to death, not the least of which is pavement strength.
we used to have to get approval ( and let the tyres down ) to operate a 300 146 in there, although I think that may have improved.
It does'nt matter wether an F100 or a bloody A380 could operate into BWI, its a closed charter, as per PBO and NWN, so who cares what a/c can land or t/off there until such times as said company wrestles the contract from NJS/QF
Skywest doing PER SYD, PER MEL, anyone want to put their hard earned on how long that will last ????
we used to have to get approval ( and let the tyres down ) to operate a 300 146 in there, although I think that may have improved.
It does'nt matter wether an F100 or a bloody A380 could operate into BWI, its a closed charter, as per PBO and NWN, so who cares what a/c can land or t/off there until such times as said company wrestles the contract from NJS/QF
Skywest doing PER SYD, PER MEL, anyone want to put their hard earned on how long that will last ????
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If Skywest are going to use the Airbus A320 erquipment on the Perth, Sydney, Melbourne sector they better play the cards right.
Those routes are in the very very high loadfactors and there is a huge demand for business class seats (Skywest losses out here) this is one of the reasons to why Qantas but on a 743 aircraft increase demand on both economy and business class seats.
If they play it right and have enough frequencies they might be able to pull this one off
Those routes are in the very very high loadfactors and there is a huge demand for business class seats (Skywest losses out here) this is one of the reasons to why Qantas but on a 743 aircraft increase demand on both economy and business class seats.
If they play it right and have enough frequencies they might be able to pull this one off
Think All Points North Of Perth Not East !!!!!!
have a look at where the current owners are based and operate from ; and that will give you one-hell-of-a-clue as to where the action will start.
it ain't east of perth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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it ain't east of perth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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