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Originally Posted by ORAC
Well I hope they start flying MAD-STN instead of LGW or LTN. Itīll take 2-3 hours off my journey time home.. 
PS: susoal, it's not Easyjet planning Madrid to Granada, but Ryanair (and also Vueling).
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Are you sure Ryanair is going to open a base at MAD as well ?? This is a very big and expensive airport, and it is not in FR's philosophy 
A good base at Madrid for Ryanair would be Salamanca or Zaragoza
A good base at Madrid for Ryanair would be Salamanca or Zaragoza
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This is a very big and expensive airport
So imagine all trade is welcome and the price is negotiable.....
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Originally Posted by ICING AOA
Are you sure Ryanair is going to open a base at MAD as well ?? This is a very big and expensive airport, and it is not in FR's philosophy
A good base at Madrid for Ryanair would be Salamanca or Zaragoza
A good base at Madrid for Ryanair would be Salamanca or Zaragoza
Ryanair also gave us the biggest hint ever the other week announcing Dublin to Madrid. Ryanair and Easyjet will be using the old terminal, and are more than happy to do so
Big airport, yes. Expensive, I dunno, imagine they'll be getting a special rate in the old terminal. Philosophy, indeed it's a huge surprise, but if there's money to be made ...? 
And yes, I too would love to see growth at Salamanca airport but I don't think Ryanair will ever fly there while they're still at Valladolid. I read somewhere too that Zaragoza airport built a brand new terminal in 28 days!!! Meanwhile, I am however surprised that Zaragoza is a such a quiet airport given it's catchment area...
It can hardly be considered as too close to Barcelona?
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So it 's crazy, Barajas is going to become a kind of STN !! with mainly easyjet, Ryanair aircraft !
I guess jet2 and Air berlin might be interested in MAD as well ?
I guess jet2 and Air berlin might be interested in MAD as well ?
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Originally Posted by Charlie Roy
Ryanair have definitely being trying to secure slots between MAD and STN for when they launch their Madrid base. Best case scenario for you would be to have Easyjet and Ryanair both on the route, fighting it out at cut throat prices and offering you numerous possible flights per day
PS: susoal, it's not Easyjet planning Madrid to Granada, but Ryanair (and also Vueling).
PS: susoal, it's not Easyjet planning Madrid to Granada, but Ryanair (and also Vueling).
Charlie Roy, maybe you know the facts about Ryanair going to fly from MAD to Granada, but I can assure that "the initial idea" from Easy is to fly there as well as the Canary Islands along with other destinations that unfortunately I do not now about. I do not know if at this point in time those plans have been or will be thought over.
Also, Ryanair was approached by AENA ( not the other way around). They were offering them a good deal on slots from Barajas. My understanding is (coming from a source working at AENA) that Ryanair wants more slots that those being offered by AENA.
The main problem at the moment comes from an unexpected source, SEPLA, the spanish version of BALPA....
I stand correct to what I said before Charlie Roy, and if you have any conflicting info, my apologies...All this is coming from a couple of friends that are involved in this process. I do not know if they are 100% right...
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Well currently only Iberia operate the Madrid to Granada route (I think).
Imagine so now if we're gonna have Iberia, Easyjet, Ryanair and Vueling all on the route!!! What a price war that would be
Imagine so now if we're gonna have Iberia, Easyjet, Ryanair and Vueling all on the route!!! What a price war that would be
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Originally Posted by ICING AOA
Are you sure Ryanair is going to open a base at MAD as well ?? This is a very big and expensive airport, and it is not in FR's philosophy
Also, given how much supressed demand for slots there has been at MAD, the terminals won't be empty for long - so AENA would be nuts to offer MOL much of a discount.
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I think you are right Alexss ! That is very true !
Well, Iberia will have to give up with this route at that 's it !
Imagine so now if we're gonna have Iberia, Easyjet, Ryanair and Vueling all on the route!!! What a price war that would be
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I wonder what all the thousands of passengers that have had their travel plans disrupted by the massive volume of cancellations will get........?[/QUOTE]
There will be some special offers available to affected pax later in the year. Apparently they will be contacted by email. Whether these offers will restore customer loyalty remains to be seen.
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I wonder what all the thousands of passengers that have had their travel plans disrupted by the massive volume of cancellations will get........?[/QUOTE]
There will be some special offers available to affected pax later in the year. Apparently they will be contacted by email. Whether these offers will restore customer loyalty remains to be seen.
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24 Aug - LONDON (AFX) - easyJet PLC, Europe's second largest no-frills airline, said it has launched a new base at Madrid's Barajas airport.
Madrid will be the carrier's 17th base and its first in Spain. It will start operations on Feb 16 2007 with several new routes to be announced in September.
easyJet currently serves nine international routes from Madrid, including London, Bristol and Liverpool, and offers a total of 72 routes to 11 Spanish airports.
Spain is the airline's second largest market after the UK.
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Madrid will be the carrier's 17th base and its first in Spain. It will start operations on Feb 16 2007 with several new routes to be announced in September.
easyJet currently serves nine international routes from Madrid, including London, Bristol and Liverpool, and offers a total of 72 routes to 11 Spanish airports.
Spain is the airline's second largest market after the UK.
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I found some more details on Easyjet's plans for Barajas in a Spanish article of which I have translated/summarized the important bits below. For full translation then Babelfish is a good internet translation tool.
http://www.expansion.com/edicion/exp...lo/682453.html
Summary:
Are Tenerife and Lanzarote considered to be domestic routes from Madrid? I would have thought so, but this contradicts the reference to 3 domestic routes
If Tenerife and Lanzarote are not to be considered domestic routes, then so far the domestic routes will be Asturias, Bilbao, and ...??? Okay, maybe the third one will be Granada then. I stand corrected from my previous assertion that Easyjet didn't have plans to fly to Granada
All will be revealed in September in any case
http://www.expansion.com/edicion/exp...lo/682453.html
Summary:
- Easyjet will base 3 aircraft at Madrid Barajas
- They'll launch 11 routes, 8 international and 3 domestic
- In the next 3 to 5 years they foresee basing between 7 and 10 airplanes and offering more than 30 national and international destinations (including North Africa)
- They have requested slots to fly from Madrid to Tenerife, Lanzarote, Bilbao and Asturias as well as to several European cities
- Madrid was chosen as a base over Barcelona, Alicante, Malaga, Palma de Mallorca and was even in competition with other European cities like Lyon!
Are Tenerife and Lanzarote considered to be domestic routes from Madrid? I would have thought so, but this contradicts the reference to 3 domestic routes
If Tenerife and Lanzarote are not to be considered domestic routes, then so far the domestic routes will be Asturias, Bilbao, and ...??? Okay, maybe the third one will be Granada then. I stand corrected from my previous assertion that Easyjet didn't have plans to fly to Granada
All will be revealed in September in any case
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Madrid - Bilbao
Easyjet going into competition in the Spanish domestic market is a really significant move.
Take Madrid - Bilbao for example:
Iberia already operate 10 return flights per day, Spanair 6 per day, and Vueling have just announced 1 daily return flight. So currently there are 17 return flights between Madrid and Bilbao most days of the week. What sort of schedule are Easyjet going to operate on the route? Are they hoping to steal business and leisure passengers alike and/or generate brand new passengers... ?
In any case, they'll have their work cut out
The Spanish operators on the route won't be overly happy to see this orange competiton either
Take Madrid - Bilbao for example:
Iberia already operate 10 return flights per day, Spanair 6 per day, and Vueling have just announced 1 daily return flight. So currently there are 17 return flights between Madrid and Bilbao most days of the week. What sort of schedule are Easyjet going to operate on the route? Are they hoping to steal business and leisure passengers alike and/or generate brand new passengers... ?
In any case, they'll have their work cut out
The Spanish operators on the route won't be overly happy to see this orange competiton either
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Originally Posted by Charlie Roy
In any case, they'll have their work cut out The Spanish operators on the route won't be overly happy to see this orange competiton either
The Spanish operators on the route won't be overly happy to see this orange competiton either Regarding the new routes we must take into account that data offered by the paper just reflects the project presented by Easyjet to the local authorities (3 domestic routes -and both ACE and TFN are in Spain- and 8 international routes), so we will probably see some changes. I wouldn't put my money on Bilbao, although I think all the three other domestic routes are likely to go ahead.
I havenīt heard anything about EZY launching the MAD-Granada route but both Vueling and Ryanair are said to be studying this route. I think Vueling has already confirm that they will operate flights to GRX from MAD this next Winter Season.
Ideas on the international routes? I would say Dortmund, Rome-Ciampino, Glasgow/Edimburgh or even a second flight to Liverpool have all great chances to happen. The answer: September 12.
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Saha Malta!
The likelyhood of an Easyjet base in Malta in the near future is highly unlikely. The goverment remains opposed and naturally Air Malta is vehemently against the idea!
The government do however want to see (low cost) airlines operating on certain routes all year round, and in response to a call for proposals Easyjet signalled this week that they'd like to start flights from Luton and Basel to Malta. Interestingly Ryanair also wishes to fly Luton to Malta (as well as from Pisa and Dublin).
Allowing Easyjet or Ryanair to set up a base on the island is an issue which has divided the Maltese. On one side the argument is that the dwindling tourist industry would benefit enormously, but on the other side majour employer Air Malta would struggle to survive, and they are even arguing that too many tourists would compromise the island's infrastructure and resources
Easyjet and Ryanair are both willing to set up base in Malta. Ryanair were even willing to pay for a series of upgrades to the airport! Seeing as the only obstacle is a political one, then this could all change. Governments can change their mind if put under pressure, indeed governments just change anyway, and I wonder would this be an issue in next general election...
While the government is dictating which routes can and can't be operated by low cost airlines we will see no Easyjet/Ryanair base. But we will see routes
Basel, Pisa, Luton, Dublin seem likely.
Then government are also considering calling for proposals on the following routes:
- Lisbon (Difficult for Easyjet to take them up on this, as they would need to fly a W from one of their other bases)
- Warsaw (Potential for Centralwings or Wizzair here)
- Turin (Not convinced that Easyjet or Ryanair would W this. Potential then for an Italian airline)
- Verona (Ryanair on a W from Hahn possibly?)
http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=37853
http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=234959
http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=234880
PS: Interesting to see both airlines now wanting to operate the Luton to Malta route. I wouldn't be surprised if they both try to insist that will not operate to the island at all unless they get the Luton route. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth
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easyJet considering pulling out of Berlin Schoenefeld
I was reading in a German paper that EZ is considering leaving Berlin if the landing fees will be raised. Has anybody heard anything about this?
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FRANKFURT (AFX) - easyJet PLC denied a report in German weekly Der Spiegel that the company is considering reducing services to and from Berlin or even scrapping them altogether if Berlin's new international airport is constructed as planned.
easyJet spokesman Oliver Aust acknowledged the company is sceptical about the plans for the Berlin Brandenburg International Airport, but he said easyJet has no plans reduce flights to the German capital.
'On the contrary: we are planning to expand' in Berlin, he said.
easyJet spokesman Oliver Aust acknowledged the company is sceptical about the plans for the Berlin Brandenburg International Airport, but he said easyJet has no plans reduce flights to the German capital.
'On the contrary: we are planning to expand' in Berlin, he said.