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Old 22nd Mar 2007, 11:48
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Thanks RED 17
Im sure MR and FS will weather whatever storms are approaching and will probably come out better handlers for it. Bring it on!!! (whtever it is )
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 11:47
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eastern

any of you on Fraggle add anything to the Eastern cuddling up with Loganair rumor Could give a second based J41 out there
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 13:16
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STOP MAKING THINGS UP its really starting to annoy me and probably most of the other readers on the IOM threds
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 14:24
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Things don't sound too good for Eastern on the IOM anyway, heard somewhere that the 3 routes they currently operate will be pulled soon.
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 14:49
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I think the harmful speculation needs to stop together with the posts that are pure fiction.

These are volatile times but anyone who has worked in this business will tell you this is normal.

Some recent posts have been well below the belt.

Read the PPrune rules on what you should and should not post.

No I am not a Mod.
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 14:49
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Hey part69 you should look on the Eastern 2007 thred where the rumor started a few days back see below

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Whispers of Eastern taking over Loganair



What do you make of FlyMayBEE going up to 5 a day on MAN to start a manx price war with the Red tails .. and thats' no rumor

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Old 24th Mar 2007, 09:40
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There is simply not enough business on MAN for 5 a day, where did you see the Flybe announcement about this?
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 11:50
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Did you hear about Eastern at school then. Routes are doing fine from and to Fraggle why would they pull out. I would envisage the opposite happening, they are just watching all the others pull each other to bits and waiting on the touchline to step in
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 13:25
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Wellington, fella, routes are doing so well to and from Fraggle that the Southampton route has been stopped in the summer.
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 15:48
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That is confirmed. I tried to book for the 15th June but the route appears to stop on Sunday 10th June.....now what ?
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 16:44
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Nav3, after TT youl have to pay your money to Mr French & Co they are runnin a paralel timetable to the Eastern one so I think Eastern have done the sensibul thing in canning it after June Q400 vs J41 is no contest

Hansol - FlyMayBe's 5 a day MAN IOM is bookable on there website. Watch out redtails, FlyMayBes gunning for you
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 17:04
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Sorry Fred, I am a bit thick. do you mean FlyBe are starting on the route /and /or taking it over from Eastern ?
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 17:43
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The Flybe BHX-IOM-BHX rotation is switching from the Q400 to the Embraer 145 from this week.
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 18:46
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What routes could Eastern be interested in out of IOM. 3W/BE have MAN covered, 3W have LPL covered and from what has happenned in the past the route can sustain only one operator. Manx2 have Belfast and Blackpool covered and Aer Arann Dublin, so what new routes could Eastern start?
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Old 24th Mar 2007, 19:38
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So lets get this straight, Flybe off a load of passengers by canceling the 5th Man rotation a few weeks ago and now magically put it back on again. Great PR exercise and forward planning. Anyway looking at the fares they are charging to Man I do not think they are really after EMX.

No doubt we will have the usual IOM situation of both firms losing money for a while with half empty aircraft before some sort of arrangement is made. There is absolutely no way 9 rotations to Man are viable.

If it came to a proper fares war my money would be on the one with the deepest pockets which is ....
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Old 25th Mar 2007, 08:15
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Well, the farce continues, with Regional sharing the handling of Flybe with Flight Support. Seems that despite the obvious flaws in having one handler check your pax in and another do the loading etc, they still went ahead.

And now they can't even decide on the rules!! It's dire for the staff on both sides who are being led by egotistical fools trying to score points. Does nowt for pax confidence and less for the airport efficiency.

Get a grip you management guys and sort this out before more people lose their livelihoods and the pax get screwed rotten!! Either Regional are handling to June or Flight Support are.
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Old 25th Mar 2007, 12:18
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well excon, were you right this morn. I se from the IOM online arrivals Fly MayBe are all over the show with delays but red tails and Manx2 running on time was it chaos on Fraggle today or are the MAN and LGW delays for other reasons
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Old 25th Mar 2007, 14:03
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I flew out on the LGW 1050 on Saturday (which was the second but last BA departure to LGW) and was hoping to sample my first BAe 146-100. To my horror, first G-GNTZ positioned in empty, but I was slightly relieved when G-MABR arrived a couple of minutes afterwards from LGW and spat out 25 or so pax. My hopes for the -100 were squashed, however, when G-MABR left empty a short while later and we boarded - a very full - G-GNTZ for LGW.

What was the story behind this aircraft change and this expensive positioning of the two 146s to and from the rock? Has G-GNTZ taken over the LGW runs and G-MABR already stood down by Flybe or was it just a one-off because the -200 was fully booked ? I noted that all the manuals etc. visible in the cockpit of G-GNTZ were plastered with the Flybe logo all over.
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Old 25th Mar 2007, 15:24
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My sources tell me that BR is now grounded and will be soon disposed of, as will the remaining 146's.

TZ did both the Gatwick AND the Manchester this morning, the early MAN being cancelled and all pax put on to the later departure.

Doesn't bode well, no sir, not at all! Captain Chaos has the reins and is running unchecked and berserk all over the place!!

Bring back the ATP's and G-MIMA!!
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Old 25th Mar 2007, 17:17
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If my memory is correct, then GNTZ carries the same slf's as MABR. Maybe MABR has gone back to what it should have been, a spare aircraft.

exconnected : when you say the early Man flight I take it you mean the 10.00 as there is no early Sunday Man anymore.

I suppose some chaos was to be expected but you would not want to be traveling tomorrow with a tight connection to make at LGW or MAN. The queues at FS should be interesting as well.
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