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Would`nt it be a good opportunity for Aer arran to take on the routes since they seem to be in out of Cwl alot anyway with Dublin,Gallway,Cork,Lorient and plus Jersey for Tom-fly.A base could be developed with Brussles,Aberdeen/Manchester,Paris,Isle of man,London/split with say Dublin?
And what has happended to the German route thats supposed to be in demand?
And what has happended to the German route thats supposed to be in demand?
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The first two are shown as KM (Air Malta flights) operating as a 'W', the TFS is also a 'W' but with an XLA flight number and the CFU is shown as an XLA flight leaving CWL at 0600 on Mondays and returning at 1400.
I wondered if the KM was the BRS-based Airbus but next year's timetable shows it fully employed in and out of BRS on the dates in question.
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Looking at their Summer 07 schedule, by adding FAO it would appear that they will need to add another based aircraft. May well mean more routes to come as they are advising that further announcements will be made.
Anyone heard what they are considering?
Anyone heard what they are considering?
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Looking at the Eastern website, the Brussels timetable no longer appears!! It was there before, stating re-commencing on the 2nd of October....
Tried the booking agent for BRU on the 2nd and it states no flights available...
An indication perhaps??? Had a re-think??
NCL doing pretty well though with the business traveler....
Tried the booking agent for BRU on the 2nd and it states no flights available...
An indication perhaps??? Had a re-think??
NCL doing pretty well though with the business traveler....
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Looking at the Eastern website, the Brussels timetable no longer appears!! It was there before, stating re-commencing on the 2nd of October....
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Cheers Twin
Can't see beyond my monitor!!!
Even the post before mine!! I must be in a cloud!!!
Any indication as to why though???
Oh, and that's stand 8 useless again then!!
Even the post before mine!! I must be in a cloud!!!
Any indication as to why though???
Oh, and that's stand 8 useless again then!!
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Here's a really wild romour, and quiet possibly a wind up, my mate got told this the other morning; that Virgin are looking at building a hangar southside for their Virgin Nigeria maintenance 
I'd have thought any such move by Virgin would have been more likely at St Athan than Cardiff, but who knows eh?
I'd have thought any such move by Virgin would have been more likely at St Athan than Cardiff, but who knows eh?
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You're very welcome, Aviance. We've all done it! 
Re Virgin Nigeria. I did hear a strange rumour that St Athan was going to be making a major announcement shortly... haven't heard any more though. Could be connected?
Re Virgin Nigeria. I did hear a strange rumour that St Athan was going to be making a major announcement shortly... haven't heard any more though. Could be connected?
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So, Eastern are stopping the BRU service? I never actually used the service though would like to go on holiday to Belgium, but Eastern was really cost prohibitive for me and the family. So what is the possibility of Aerran operating the route with an ATR 42? I would definatley use the service.
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If Eastern can not make it work with a 29 seater what economic sense would it be for an operator with a 50 seater on the Brussels route
It would be commercial suicide, because I am sure they would not survive on BAForever's family contribution to the route
It would be commercial suicide, because I am sure they would not survive on BAForever's family contribution to the route
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Air Wales (despite the questionable management) regularly flew 30+ pax to BRU.............Eastern did not advertise their presence and fares were utterly daft................there is and always will be demand for CWL-BRU
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there is and always will be demand for CWL-BRU
Eastern should have made this one work. It needs something like a J41. Air Wales made some decent progress on the route with the ATR42, but it is a tad big.
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Aye, great news about baby's 4th aircraft.
I've heard the romour Thomson may be getting a 2nd 737, not that convinced though - would be great however. XL are here for the next 3 years so I heard, with their NG, possibly even a bigger aircraft aswell (75/767?) for next summer.
The one thing I'd like to see though is for MyTravel to fly through the winter.
I've heard the romour Thomson may be getting a 2nd 737, not that convinced though - would be great however. XL are here for the next 3 years so I heard, with their NG, possibly even a bigger aircraft aswell (75/767?) for next summer.
The one thing I'd like to see though is for MyTravel to fly through the winter.
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If Eastern can not make it work with a 29 seater what economic sense would it be for an operator with a 50 seater on the Brussels route
It would be commercial suicide, because I am sure they would not survive on BAForever's family contribution to the route
It would be commercial suicide, because I am sure they would not survive on BAForever's family contribution to the route
Air Wales (despite the questionable management) regularly flew 30+ pax to BRU.............Eastern did not advertise their presence and fares were utterly daft................there is and always will be demand for CWL-BRU
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there is and always will be demand for CWL-BRU
Have to agree with that. BA ran the route for yonks with the J41, and latterly the 145, and got a healthy return. Good mix of business fares (up to £500 return in Club) and leisure fares (£99 was possible). Eastern's error seems to have been (a) little advertising and (b) assuming that everyone who used to pay £500 would come back. SNBA at BRS has had many converts since BA pulled out of CWL, and they even give BA Miles...
Eastern should have made this one work. It needs something like a J41. Air Wales made some decent progress on the route with the ATR42, but it is a tad big.
there is and always will be demand for CWL-BRU
Have to agree with that. BA ran the route for yonks with the J41, and latterly the 145, and got a healthy return. Good mix of business fares (up to £500 return in Club) and leisure fares (£99 was possible). Eastern's error seems to have been (a) little advertising and (b) assuming that everyone who used to pay £500 would come back. SNBA at BRS has had many converts since BA pulled out of CWL, and they even give BA Miles...
Eastern should have made this one work. It needs something like a J41. Air Wales made some decent progress on the route with the ATR42, but it is a tad big.
BA did run the service for yonks. The main reasons it failed were high fare and no advertisment.
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So why are they not still running the service then
You have answered the question yourselves!
BA did not make enough money it
Air Wales had good loads, but still made no money
If i had a butchers shop and gave away free sausages, I would have a full butchers. Having good loads does not necessarily mean making money and that is what counts at then end of the day.
You have answered the question yourselves!
BA did not make enough money it
Air Wales had good loads, but still made no money
If i had a butchers shop and gave away free sausages, I would have a full butchers. Having good loads does not necessarily mean making money and that is what counts at then end of the day.