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Old 10th Sep 2008, 21:02
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Well there was a Saab at SCS today and it wasn't a Flybe or Loganair one - so wonder who does that leaves
There was also a broken 146 parked at the other end of shetland! that may explain the presence of a bigger saab up the road, never seen the terminal so busy with crews from various airlines and pax alike...

Bush telegraph there suggested a tie-up that most of us had not considered.
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Old 10th Sep 2008, 22:02
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Do tell!??
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 06:41
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It was a fully liveried Eastern Airways Saab
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 07:54
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Snoop Speculation!

So could it be possible that T3 could come to a deal with Flightline? Are they talking about maybe taking over (or leasing in) the 146s - or some of them?

Have T3 sourced more 2000s if they have won the contract but not using the 146s?
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 09:21
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Ukpaxman is teasing you all - none of Eastern's Saabs were in Scatsta yesterday.......
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 10:05
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There must have been a weather problem at SCS yesterday. All the 146's were at LSI yesterday. Perhaps they're using rubber dummies up there?
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 10:07
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Wx in SCS for most of the day was below limits or marginal for circling for R06, hence LSI was used.

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Old 11th Sep 2008, 10:41
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South Carolina's a strange place to divert traffic from Scatsta?
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 10:52
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Doubt the 146 has the range for ABZ-SUM anyway.

Easy spokesman blaming "low winter demand" for the cut in freq on LTN this winter. Either that or they see ABZ as the "easy" option in cutting back.

[email protected] are back in the news, seems two employees saw one flashing about beside Overtons. Police are investigating. So expect no charges...
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 11:49
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Snoop EZY

Think they may have been a little premature cutting the morning flights. Yes, historically, the loads have been poor over the winter but that was before BA chopped the LGW service. In the ensuing battle of the locos for pax to "London", Ezy was winning hands down against BE with 90%+ loads on both am and pm flights during the summer.

Only winner will be FlyBE once more!

By the way, Caley are doing ramp handling for Logie Bear from GMT- hence staff requirement. I would mention who is doing FOH and OPS but fear I may be by the mods
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 12:18
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Is Caley not owned by Loganair????
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 12:53
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Correct! been a wee while coming but as soon as they bought Caley handling it was only going to be a matter of time before they self-handled
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 13:44
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ukpaxman said
It was a fully liveried Eastern Airways Saab

There was a fully liveried EZE J41 at SUMBURGH however, doing a private charter. Could that have been the aircraft?
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 18:36
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Firstly the 146s will not be staying on the route, regardless of who operates them. The Saab 2000 does not have the capacity since it only has 50 seats unless the IAC are willing to go onto a 5 aircraft program which includes the spare but I doubt that very much since parking at SCS and the general logistics become more complicated. Loads in and out of SCS can frequently exceed the 50 seats that the Saab 2000 has.

A colleague of mine was speaking to a FlyBe cabin crew member during the other week who was under the impression that the IAC contract was a done deal! The Dash 8 Q400 has the performance for a 1200m runway and FlyBe have apparently indicated that a big announcement is likely soon!

The official line is that no operator has been chosen but everything points to FlyBe using the Dash 8 Q400!
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 19:33
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So that would be on top of the other 4 or 5 new aircraft theyre looking to operate from ABZ?
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 19:46
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Where are Flybe going to park them all?

See domestic figures continue to fall, but international pax overall still doing well. Seems that will be the main point of expansion in future, unless Flybe for example think they can make some domestic routes work with their loco model?

STN is 8yrs & counting, CWL must be something like 5yrs+.
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 20:08
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"Where are Flybe going to park them all"

Well at least BMI Baby are trying to help them out with BHX
going down to six a week in the winter. I think the double
daily in the week was on sale for one whole month and a bit
before getting extras got the chop leaving just evening flights.

Another route for flybe to clean up on business pax.

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Old 11th Sep 2008, 20:32
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The problem with stands tends to be at certain times of the day.First thing in the morning weekdays,Friday and Sunday late afternoons.It wouldn't take many extra aircraft at these times to cause problems.Parking would have to be on 23,which reduces capacity even further.However that only affects helis,which don't count as we all know.The BAA certainly don't care about them.
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 21:03
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The IT charter flights to TFS this winter that were to be operated by Futura, are to be picked up by Flyglobespan. I assume this is ADDITIONAL to the scheduled service.
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 21:57
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So that would be on top of the other 4 or 5 new aircraft theyre looking to operate from ABZ?
From what I have heard, any FlyBe SCS operation (should it take place), will not be included in those figures. Perhaps the new Loganair franchise could make up some of those 4 or 5 'new' aircraft?
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