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Old 4th Jun 2006, 15:56
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Callsign

Except many foreign ATCs call us 'EXPO123', as in Excel, due to confusion with the EXS bit. Will be even worse if we start Greece or Turkey routes.

How about Silverhawk as a callsign?
Or even better--Seagull!
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Seagull is already taken.
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Old 4th Jun 2006, 22:02
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In fact generally pilots (commercial pilots) do not make good businessme

[QUOTE=Harrier46]P.Pilcher
Nothing at all to do with it. In fact generally pilots (commercial pilots) do not make good businessmen.
Tell that to Titan Suckling and Eastern!!
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Whats happened to G CELO that was put on th UK register ages ago under Jet2, its never operated as yet and its been transferred back to TF ELO, anyone know why? Anything to do with the fact that apprently Philip Meeson wants more 757s than 737s operating within 12 to 18 months

Heard many rumours about jet2 all good though
New uniform for crew could be a possibility!
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Old 10th Jun 2006, 16:42
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TF-ELO is still owned and is going to be flown by jet2, the reason behind it been on a iceland reg, is that the cargo door mod is not reconised by the UK CAA, so they are having to keep it on the Iclandic reg for the time been. Do belive it is going to be flown out of Newcastle but that is only a rumour as far as I know.

What are these good rumours then, don't keep them to yourself?
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Old 13th Jun 2006, 19:23
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The usual we hear around the company.
1. 737s to be upgrded to 737-800s
2. Ryanair interested in buying out Jet2
3. LCA, PFO, LPA possiblly flying from MAN this winter
4. 737s to be replaced by 757s at man
5. Cargo area by the MYT hangers are to be turned into a Jet2 mini terminal
6. New Uniform to go with new company colour scheme and new paint jobs on a/c
7. 767 to join the fleet within the next yr to launch long haul

You know what galley FM is like, never believe it till it happens
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Old 14th Jun 2006, 10:33
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What I personally belive could happen,

1 73's to ne gen, Don't think it would be cost efective due to the differencs between classic and new gen and the extra training that would have to be done. But still a good idear

2 don't think many airlines could afford to buy out jet2 just at the moment, (unless they are from Iceland) I think ryanair has to much tied up in there newer aircraft, the only posable reason I could see this happening would be for the routes.

3 could see these new route happening LCA, PFO, LPA, I think it is a matter of when.

4 73's to be replaced by 75's everywere. PM has said himself that he was replacing some of the older 73's with 75's. May keep some 73's for the shorter routes.

5, Don't see the cargo area being change, the lease on the hangar is running out in a few years, and there is reported plans for a new termainal on the site.

6, would be nice to see new uniforms for the crews as they still chanex uniforms

7, 767 to join the fleet, counld see this one happening, due to the fact that there is not much differnce but in size to the 75's, would not take much to train people up on a 76 from the 75's

This is only my personal view, the roumer mill is always going to throw things up, it is what keeps us all intrested.
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Old 14th Jun 2006, 10:58
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Current rumors.... 12 757s by next year, this will allow the 737s (especially the QCs) to concentrate on the Mail runs. 757s on the established routes (lower seat costs than 73) thus allowing the 73s to concentrate on the newer routes and the ad-hoc stuff.
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NG conversion from classic is just a differences course. Half a day in classroom and one sim session and four sectors line training. Very little cost there. Acquiring the airframe is a very expensive exercise. So I suspect that rules out NGs.

76 from 75 conversion, very similar story to above. However palletised freight on a 76 pays for the trip. Pax revenue is bonus. If it was my trainset this would be my focus.

New uniforms and paintjobs are just a wasteful luxury. Money would be better spent on crew retention.

Oh and before I forget, NG conversion to 777 is also just a differences course. But we don't get 777s til 2008!
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I don't think Ryanair, or easyJet for that matter, will go on the purchase trailagain following the takovers of Buzz and Go! these two airlines see expansion possibilities throughout Europe and not just the UK (Jet 2 and BMI BABY). Anyway what would Ryanair want with Jet 2 as Ryanair will not operate services to high-cost airports (In MOL's eyes) such as Manchester, Amsterdam, Palma, Ibiza, Alicante, Nice, Dusseldorf, Paris CdG, Rome Fiumicino, Prague, Tenerife South and Gatwick (domestics). Jet 2 just doesn't fit into ryanair's thinking or network.
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Old 14th Jun 2006, 19:56
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Where are the spelling/grammar police? Not everybody is guilty, but this thread is painful to read!
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Any ideas how the 12 X 75s will be crewed struggling to find flight deck for 3.

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Hey, your guess is a good as mine. Only know that PM wants to have the 12 by this time next year to cut his seat costs. Don't even know where he's going to get em from, that said, it won't be my problem by then !

Perhaps he could get the ex-F27 guys back (one old aircraft is much the same as any other) I'm sure the F27 chaps would jump at the chance to come back for more !

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Highlights from the Dart Group results released today which may serve to prove and disprove some of the rumours mentioned above

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Profit before tax after goodwill amortisation and exceptional items amounted to £15.0m (2005 - £8.4m).

In excess of 80% of the 2006/07 Jet2 fuel requirements have been hedged at average rates lower than the current market price. A small amount of fuel has been hedged in respect of the 2007/08 requirement.

Jet2 currently operates 22 Boeing 737-300 aircraft, which carry 148passengers, and three larger Boeing 757-200s, which carry 235 passengers. The Boeing 757 enables us to fly more passengers at a lower seat cost on our more popular routes and also to fly to more distant winter sun destinations. We expect to increase both fleets over the coming year.

With the growing propensity for people to own overseas properties, take more frequent holidays and leisure breaks in exciting and attractive European cities and probably to retire to sunnier climes, we believe that there is huge potential growth in the leisure air travel market. Jet2 is now one of the most recognised air travel brands in the North of England and we are well positioned to successfully grow this business.

During the year to 31 March, 2006, the Group increased its owned aircraft fleet to 21 Boeing 737-300 aircraft, which carry 148 passengers, and three Boeing757-200s, which carry 235 passengers. Since the year end two further Boeing757-200s have been purchased. Of the Boeing 737-300s, six are 'Quick Change' versions, allowing the seats to be removed and containers of mail to be loaded within 40 minutes, for Royal Mail's 'Postal Air Network'.

We will continue to grow both our fleets. We believe that the Boeing 737-300 has excellent economics for short distance flights, whilst the Boeing 757-200 gives competitive seat rates for longer distances and will allow the company a wider offering of winter sun destinations. This aircraft's economics are competitive and its excellent performance characteristics enable operations to a wide variety of regional airports.

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City reaction to the results has been positive, with shares (@ 13:56) up around 10%.

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Old 15th Jun 2006, 18:56
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AIM-listed Dart Group, parent of Jet2, saw its pre-tax, pre-exceptional profit improve by 5.8% year-on-year to £14.7m in the 12 months to end-March 2006.
Turnover grew by 19.3% to £319.6m, while operating expenses were up 18.8% at £312.1m, which resulted in a full year operating profit of £7.5m (+41.5%). Earnings per share were up 3.4% at 28.9p.

Net debt as at 31 March 2006 stood at £5.5m, compared with net cash of £2.4m a year earlier, following the acquisition of three Boeing 757-200 and one Boeing 737-300 aircraft.

Jet2, which flies to 26 destinations from six bases in the North of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, using a fleet of 22 B737s and three B757s, carried 2.25m passengers during the year.

Dart’s other business is temperature-controlled distribution company Fowler Welch-Coolchain. The group does not split out the results of its two businesses.
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Old 16th Jun 2006, 14:58
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Masterclass in infuriating your own empolyees.
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Old 16th Jun 2006, 16:43
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Ive heard that jet 2 have been having some teething problems with all there 757s any one got any more info?
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Old 17th Jun 2006, 10:50
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Lukylad, there are always teething problems with something new but its not as if the whole 757 network has come to a stand still. in fact far from it, in my opinion the 757s are doing well.
Referring back to past posts regarding Jet2 getting more 757s, a 5th one has just been aquired. Nice one!

Silverhawk why the Masterclass in infuriating your own empolyees. comment? can u explain? im not infuriated that the company i work for is doing so well, unless thats just me, the last 2 companys i worked for always had financial difficulties.
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Old 17th Jun 2006, 11:08
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Crewboy

How about great profits at the same moment,(year end 2005/6) as rubbish pay deal for crew?

Profits will be hit very hard in the future if staff are not listened to/looked after.

As I've said before, I'm glad you're happy crewboy. Basic for cabin crew compares pretty well. Flight deck pay is a completely different matter though.

Future developments are a direct result of the manner in which flight deck are being treated. Those of us who choose to stay have no option other than ensure our voices are heard.
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Old 17th Jun 2006, 11:46
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Originally Posted by crewboi83
Lukylad, there are always teething problems with something new but its not as if the whole 757 network has come to a stand still. in fact far from it, in my opinion the 757s are doing well.
Referring back to past posts regarding Jet2 getting more 757s, a 5th one has just been aquired. Nice one!

Silverhawk why the Masterclass in infuriating your own empolyees. comment? can u explain? im not infuriated that the company i work for is doing so well, unless thats just me, the last 2 companys i worked for always had financial difficulties.
Ah cheers mate thank for the information a 5th 757 wow!! wonder how easyjet and ryan air will respond to that.
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