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LBA also involves 30 minutes down a minor road to get to it from the A1. Give me RHADS any day.
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March passenger loads
Here is a selection for your interest:
Belfast 63%
Dublin 70%
Jersey 72%
Poznan 72%
Gdansk 75%
Gerona 77%
Wroclaw 80%
Las Palmas 80%
Katowice 84%
Alicante (FR and TOM) 91%
Faro 95%
Tenerife S 95%
Belfast 63%
Dublin 70%
Jersey 72%
Poznan 72%
Gdansk 75%
Gerona 77%
Wroclaw 80%
Las Palmas 80%
Katowice 84%
Alicante (FR and TOM) 91%
Faro 95%
Tenerife S 95%
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Last weeks incident
Police and emergency services were called to Robin Hood Airport today after a light aircraft crash landed.
The aircraft was understood to be on a training flight from Leeds Bradford Aiport when the front wheel collapsed on landing just after 10am.
Police say there were two people on board the aircraft, neither of whom was hurt.
The incident blocked the main runway for around one and a half hours, causing a flight from Dublin to be delayed, though not diverted.
The Department of Transport's Air Accident Investgation Branch has been notified of the incident.
Multiflight Beech 76 G-OADY
The aircraft was understood to be on a training flight from Leeds Bradford Aiport when the front wheel collapsed on landing just after 10am.
Police say there were two people on board the aircraft, neither of whom was hurt.
The incident blocked the main runway for around one and a half hours, causing a flight from Dublin to be delayed, though not diverted.
The Department of Transport's Air Accident Investgation Branch has been notified of the incident.
Multiflight Beech 76 G-OADY
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The first stage of the rail link for DSA has been given the go ahead:
Green light for first stage of air-rail link - The Star
Green light for first stage of air-rail link - The Star
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None Payment Of Local Rates
Hi,
before xmas it was on local news that finningley had asked the local gov. to not pay the local rates for upto 5 years (which at the time I was astonished by). The reason given is that the airport was having financial difficulties [Peel £££!!!]. Does anyone know the outcome to this request? I would have thought the answer would be simple: raise landing charges to create more revenue. Offering ridiculous deals to airlines to get them on board is fine but routes will only work if there is a genuine demand AFTER these deals have finished. I really do not think it is fair for an airport to ask to wave their rates just because they have over estimated local demand for flights. I don't want to antagonise finningley supporters, but surely the airport has to be able to stand on its own two feet on a level playing field?
Regards,
Leeds App.
BBC Local Television news announces that Doncaster Council has refused to waive the paying of rates - and rightly so!!.
Peel say that airport is losing £1m per month!!
How long will that be allowed to go on?
Hi,
before xmas it was on local news that finningley had asked the local gov. to not pay the local rates for upto 5 years (which at the time I was astonished by). The reason given is that the airport was having financial difficulties [Peel £££!!!]. Does anyone know the outcome to this request? I would have thought the answer would be simple: raise landing charges to create more revenue. Offering ridiculous deals to airlines to get them on board is fine but routes will only work if there is a genuine demand AFTER these deals have finished. I really do not think it is fair for an airport to ask to wave their rates just because they have over estimated local demand for flights. I don't want to antagonise finningley supporters, but surely the airport has to be able to stand on its own two feet on a level playing field?
Regards,
Leeds App.
BBC Local Television news announces that Doncaster Council has refused to waive the paying of rates - and rightly so!!.
Peel say that airport is losing £1m per month!!
How long will that be allowed to go on?
Four years for the station! In the good old days the RAF used to knock one up for the airshow the track was not that far away.
Peel have a station at DTVA and it only gets used once a week!
Does Peel really have a major airports plan???
Peel have a station at DTVA and it only gets used once a week!
Does Peel really have a major airports plan???
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It took Peel 10 years to get a profit out of LPL so they knew what they were getting themselves into as there was no immediate gains over there.
They overhyped DSA and with the economic climate as it is and the improved local competition it means it isn't as easy as they thought it would be.
The whole local rates issue smacks of Peel trying it on to get more money out of the local council who have backed them to the hilt so far.
Cheeky? That's Peel.
They overhyped DSA and with the economic climate as it is and the improved local competition it means it isn't as easy as they thought it would be.
The whole local rates issue smacks of Peel trying it on to get more money out of the local council who have backed them to the hilt so far.
Cheeky? That's Peel.
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Rates
To answer the query on rates, I just found this on UK Airport News.
Suzeman
Robin Hood Airport faces higher operating costs after councillors refused to bail out operators with hardship relief worth nearly £4 million, the Free Press reports. Peel Holdings - owners of the airport - lost its appeal for exemption from paying business rates for four years at a council meeting on Friday.
This year the airport paid rates of £803,880 for its site at Finningley. Airport bosses said that, as a result of the decision, they cannot now afford to market the airport and Doncaster overseas in a bid to attract more people to the area.
Airport bosses had argued the business rates represented a ‘very significant overhead’ and not paying them would have allowed Peel to increase its overseas marketing to encourage more airlines to use the £100m development. If granted, the local authority would have had to pass on a shortfall in its income of nearly £1 million to tax-payers which would have seen council tax bills rise by 1.1 percent.
The council declined the appeal - which had initially been rejected last year - stating the case did not satisfy the necessary criteria to be granted under Local Government Finance Act 1988.
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dsatristar - the Council 'backed them to the hilt'??? The Council even charge Peel to run the bus services from the airport, enough to make other airports laugh. At other airports the PTE's or even development agencies fund bus services. Also the Council won't even sign the airport from junction 3 of the M18 thus adding 15 minutes for everyone following the road signs from Sheffield. Thank goodness for satnav.
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Netjets paint contract
NetJets Europe awards paint contract to untried Doncaster operation
By Aimée Turner
Fast-growing NetJets Europe has awarded what is understood to be one of largest-ever paint contracts to an as-yet untried operation at Doncaster Robin Hood in the UK.
The Lisbon, Portugal-based operator - which is projecting 2008 deliveries will boost its fleet by nearly one-third to 174 aircraft - plans to send 50 Cessna Citations to Directions, a public sector body that has been charged by regional development agency Yorkshire Forward to develop aviation industry skills and is working with Marshall Business Aviation to establish a business jet maintenance centre of effort at the former cold war airbase.
Directions has managed all the £10 million ($15 million) costs of developing and maintaining the 5,100m² (55,000ft²) hangar to date - designed from the outset with help from Cessna support partner, Cambridge-based Marshall, which has its own fixed-base operation at Robin Hood.
"It will be essentially a partnership between Directions and Marshall, which will perform engineering on the aircraft. For Marshall, it is very much part of its effort to concentrate expertise in one area. For NetJets, the benefits lie in the ability to standardise paint specification of the highest environmental quality," says a source close to the contract.
Negotiations are understood to be ongoing for aircraft refurbishment activity on the NetJets Citation fleet, a continuous upgrade effort that Directions hopes will further its plans to develop heavy maintenance for business jets.
Work on the 50 aircraft, the oldest Citations within the NetJet fleet and acquired between 2003 and 2007, will start in the first quarter of 2009. The airport's Hangar No 2 will be renovated to provide dedicated paint facilities, where modular pods will be installed as part of a further £5 million investment.
News of the contract was disclosed at the official opening of Marshall's new £5 million executive aviation centre at the company's Cambridge airport, which combines executive handling services and a 4,645m² maintenance facility.
A Cessna service centre for the past 30 years, the newly extended business aviation maintenance facility will help the business achieve accelerated growth of 6%, building on top of recent growth of 4%.
Allan McGreal, Marshall's head of business and general aviation, says the integrated service philosophy is geared to meet the needs of its largest fleet client NetJets. "Individual operators reap the rewards of that approach," he says, adding that the objective is to grow capacity with the new hangar and extend capability and service levels, taking on Cessna Citation 10 and Sovereign work in the first quarter of 2009 and larger aircraft types by the end of the year.
By Aimée Turner
Fast-growing NetJets Europe has awarded what is understood to be one of largest-ever paint contracts to an as-yet untried operation at Doncaster Robin Hood in the UK.
The Lisbon, Portugal-based operator - which is projecting 2008 deliveries will boost its fleet by nearly one-third to 174 aircraft - plans to send 50 Cessna Citations to Directions, a public sector body that has been charged by regional development agency Yorkshire Forward to develop aviation industry skills and is working with Marshall Business Aviation to establish a business jet maintenance centre of effort at the former cold war airbase.
Directions has managed all the £10 million ($15 million) costs of developing and maintaining the 5,100m² (55,000ft²) hangar to date - designed from the outset with help from Cessna support partner, Cambridge-based Marshall, which has its own fixed-base operation at Robin Hood.
"It will be essentially a partnership between Directions and Marshall, which will perform engineering on the aircraft. For Marshall, it is very much part of its effort to concentrate expertise in one area. For NetJets, the benefits lie in the ability to standardise paint specification of the highest environmental quality," says a source close to the contract.
Negotiations are understood to be ongoing for aircraft refurbishment activity on the NetJets Citation fleet, a continuous upgrade effort that Directions hopes will further its plans to develop heavy maintenance for business jets.
Work on the 50 aircraft, the oldest Citations within the NetJet fleet and acquired between 2003 and 2007, will start in the first quarter of 2009. The airport's Hangar No 2 will be renovated to provide dedicated paint facilities, where modular pods will be installed as part of a further £5 million investment.
News of the contract was disclosed at the official opening of Marshall's new £5 million executive aviation centre at the company's Cambridge airport, which combines executive handling services and a 4,645m² maintenance facility.
A Cessna service centre for the past 30 years, the newly extended business aviation maintenance facility will help the business achieve accelerated growth of 6%, building on top of recent growth of 4%.
Allan McGreal, Marshall's head of business and general aviation, says the integrated service philosophy is geared to meet the needs of its largest fleet client NetJets. "Individual operators reap the rewards of that approach," he says, adding that the objective is to grow capacity with the new hangar and extend capability and service levels, taking on Cessna Citation 10 and Sovereign work in the first quarter of 2009 and larger aircraft types by the end of the year.
ROBIN Hood Airport has officially applied to Doncaster Council to lift restrictions on night-time freight flights in a bid to create more jobs.
Bosses at the Finningley airport have submitted plans to relax the limitations which they say will make greater use of the site and bring it in line with other airports that transport cargo.
It wants to overturn a ban on noisier aircraft like Boeing 747s - known as QC4s - operating at night because officials are concerned the current ruling is hampering efforts to attract a freight operator to set up base at Robin Hood.
Freight firm Fedex last year snubbed the airport because of the restrictions, and instead chose to locate to Manchester.
Since opening in April 2005 Robin Hood carried around 600 tonnes of cargo annually in its first two years.
Freight operations from the airport are currently below expectations. Bosses claim one reason is the restrictions on QC4 planes using Robin Hood between 11pm and 7am which are more stringent than most other regional airports.
Robin Tudor, spokesman for Peel, owners of the airport said current annual noise limit regulations would not be amended if the application was passed.
He said: "It is about making the airport more competitive so we can attract the key freight carriers who have one or two QC4s in their fleet.
"We are not talking about QC4 aircraft flying night after night. Even by 2106 our estimates are less than two QC4s aircraft using the airport a week."
The council has now started a consultation process on the application. Letters have been sent to town and parish councils and residents who have previously objected to the proposals.
A document submitted to the council by the airport said relaxing the rules would compliment Government policy to expand regional airports by making better use of Robin Hood's runway.
If the appeal is approved restrictions banning larger aircraft than QC4s would not be affected.
The document can be viewed at Doncaster Council's planning offices, libraries and some post offices near the airport.
The consultation period will end on January 30. The application will then go before the planning committee.
Residents should submit views in writing to Robin Hood Airport Consultation, Directorate of Development, Development and Planning, Second floor, Danum House, St. Sepulchre Gate, Doncaster DN1 1UB.
Bosses at the Finningley airport have submitted plans to relax the limitations which they say will make greater use of the site and bring it in line with other airports that transport cargo.
It wants to overturn a ban on noisier aircraft like Boeing 747s - known as QC4s - operating at night because officials are concerned the current ruling is hampering efforts to attract a freight operator to set up base at Robin Hood.
Freight firm Fedex last year snubbed the airport because of the restrictions, and instead chose to locate to Manchester.
Since opening in April 2005 Robin Hood carried around 600 tonnes of cargo annually in its first two years.
Freight operations from the airport are currently below expectations. Bosses claim one reason is the restrictions on QC4 planes using Robin Hood between 11pm and 7am which are more stringent than most other regional airports.
Robin Tudor, spokesman for Peel, owners of the airport said current annual noise limit regulations would not be amended if the application was passed.
He said: "It is about making the airport more competitive so we can attract the key freight carriers who have one or two QC4s in their fleet.
"We are not talking about QC4 aircraft flying night after night. Even by 2106 our estimates are less than two QC4s aircraft using the airport a week."
The council has now started a consultation process on the application. Letters have been sent to town and parish councils and residents who have previously objected to the proposals.
A document submitted to the council by the airport said relaxing the rules would compliment Government policy to expand regional airports by making better use of Robin Hood's runway.
If the appeal is approved restrictions banning larger aircraft than QC4s would not be affected.
The document can be viewed at Doncaster Council's planning offices, libraries and some post offices near the airport.
The consultation period will end on January 30. The application will then go before the planning committee.
Residents should submit views in writing to Robin Hood Airport Consultation, Directorate of Development, Development and Planning, Second floor, Danum House, St. Sepulchre Gate, Doncaster DN1 1UB.
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for anybody that is interested as of yesterday 9th Jan 09 Doncaster removed the restriction on training flights by aircraft over 5700kg that meant you could only do a maximum of 2hr training before you had to take a 1hr break for noise abatement.
The restriction on training flights by aircraft over 5700kg now is: permitted between 0700 - 2100(L), Mon -Sat. Training on Sundays and Bank Holidays is not permitted.
The restriction on training flights by aircraft over 5700kg now is: permitted between 0700 - 2100(L), Mon -Sat. Training on Sundays and Bank Holidays is not permitted.
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So - whats the scoot ??
So - whats the scoot on Donny then? is it a viable airport and if not - why not? Is it the Council's fault or are Peel just playing them?
Seems to me that the two parties are not working together - shall we send them in for some CRM sessions??
Seems to me that the two parties are not working together - shall we send them in for some CRM sessions??
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"We are not talking about QC4 aircraft flying night after night. Even by 2106 our estimates are less than two QC4s aircraft using the airport a week."
Thanks.
Its proving the doubters right at the moment, the damage is being shown now due to its heavy reliance on leisure flights which are taking a massive hit due to the economy.
Their ludicrous ambitions of handling 4.4 to 6.5 million pax by 2016 screams of pushing the government into paying for the motorway link road. I think there are far more pressing things for tax payers money to be spent on.
If the place is still losing 1 million a month (i believe operating loss) i dont see how they are going to claw it back. It appears that business operators dont see it as a viable option due to being far from Sheffield and that cities connections to better flights at MAN and EMA....
More money troubles for the peel group here...
HMRC contesting Peel Holdings’ capital loss relief - Crain's Manchester Business
Their ludicrous ambitions of handling 4.4 to 6.5 million pax by 2016 screams of pushing the government into paying for the motorway link road. I think there are far more pressing things for tax payers money to be spent on.
If the place is still losing 1 million a month (i believe operating loss) i dont see how they are going to claw it back. It appears that business operators dont see it as a viable option due to being far from Sheffield and that cities connections to better flights at MAN and EMA....
More money troubles for the peel group here...
HMRC contesting Peel Holdings’ capital loss relief - Crain's Manchester Business
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Their ludicrous ambitions of handling 4.4 to 6.5 million pax by 2016 screams of pushing the government into paying for the motorway link road. I think there are far more pressing things for tax payers money to be spent on.
Spending money on large scale state projects is more worthwhile, in my opinion. Jobs and improved public infrastructure is more desirable to me.
Such as bailing at private insititutions that have ballsed up, you mean?
Spending money on large scale state projects is more worthwhile, in my opinion. Jobs and improved public infrastructure is more desirable to me.
Spending money on large scale state projects is more worthwhile, in my opinion. Jobs and improved public infrastructure is more desirable to me.