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Old 29th Oct 2014, 23:39
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Pretty certain this article is meaning Dublin and not Dundee.
Indeed, DND is with LC, on the PSO.
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Article now says Cologne instead of Dundee.
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2265 passengers for month of September, 22 per flight. 23% down on same month last year.

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Old 6th Nov 2014, 08:38
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I take that LCY was operated at a higher frequency/another aircraft type? 22 pax and 23 % down mean an average load of 27 pax last years if the route was operated with the same frequency and type (if so, it would mean a 87 % load factor and tell a lot about the cost of the D328 and LCY...)
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22 pax or in other words 70% average load factor, is decent figures for the route with its pso remember.
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The numbers are actually very good, when it is considered that the southbound am/northbound pm are likely to be busier than the reverses.


Also, the average last Sep to LCY was just under 22.8 whereas this year to STN is just over 21.2. So, despite moving to a less 'convenient' airport they have only lost 1.5 pax per flight. Assuming lower operating costs are achieved at STN, at face value this route must be more viable now than previously before receipt of PSO is even taken into account.


What would be interesting to know is how it can be quantified that this service is contributing to economic development in the Dundee area, and whether it providing local taxpayers with value for money.
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 14:16
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October stats out, 1940 pax = average of 19 pax per flight for stansted route
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 16:15
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Not exactly setting the heather alight... they should be seeing month on month increases if someones doing their job on behalf of the taxpayer...
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November 1701 passengers, wonder if that includes biz jets?

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December 1572 passengers

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November 1701 passengers, wonder if that includes biz jets?
No it doesn't. All of those were on the Stansted service.
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Old 19th Feb 2015, 14:59
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latest CAA figures suggest1240 passengers for January (down 19% on last Jan), can anyone at the airport comment on whats happening?

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I am not sure about the worth of comparing this January's figures with last years figures, as that time last year the route was to LCY and not STN.

From the other posts it is clear that STN has been less popular than LCY, however the difference in passenger numbers between the two routes seems to have lessened.

...month of September...23% down on same month last year
down 19% on last Jan
As has been said before STN is cheaper to operate to than LCY, and there is a PSO in place. This will help the bottom line of the airline, but then again, who knows if these figures are good or not?
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September had 2265 passengers compared to January's 1240, almost halved in 5 months?

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City businessman says Dundee?s airport future lies with Edinburgh - Dundee / Local / News / The Courier

“My information is that the actual flights to and from Stansted are always nearly full so the service is receiving public support,”

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Old 24th Feb 2015, 13:45
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“What Dundee needs is an hourly rail service to Edinburgh in the south and Aberdeen in the north.
Huh? Another opinionated person with little idea of reality...

I do actually agree with him re the flights, though.
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Dundee Airport wins backing from former Chamber of Commerce presidents - News / Business / The Courier

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He suggested routes to the major business centres of Manchester and Birmingham, which a spokesman for Flybe franchise partner Loganair played down saying: “We are focused on the current Dundee to Stansted service and have no plans to introduce new routes.”
I bet they are "focused" on the Stansted route with the passenger figures dropping so fast, It about 10 each way on the January stats.

Does the PSO subsidy still leave the airline exposed to losses if the loads are poor?

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Old 24th Feb 2015, 20:34
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DND PSO

Maybe the route should have remained DND-LCY?

"Land in London, actual London" to quote a carrier's advertising slogan.
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Old 24th Feb 2015, 21:19
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I dont think theres any maybes about this. Its a dead duck...
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