DUNDEE
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From: Dundee
with the way that london citys pax figures are justnow, anything bigger than a d328 would be a complete waste. figures from lcy to dnd can even be worse than dnd - lcy at times. pax are getting fed up with the late or canx flights, lack of customer care in the case of delays or cancellations and value for money or the lack of it.
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From: Dundee
Would flybe, perhaps under the new Loganair agreement and given their significant presence there, be looking at Birmingham? 
As for LCY, certainly been pretty full whenever I have flown from DND but filling a D328 is one thing, filling an RJ is a whole different ball game. Any updates on this rumour NDF?
As for LCY, certainly been pretty full whenever I have flown from DND but filling a D328 is one thing, filling an RJ is a whole different ball game. Any updates on this rumour NDF?
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I believe one of the main reasons Aberdeen & not Dundee benefitted most from oil was that the former had an airport that could cope with the expansion (at the time!!) whereas the latter did not.
However Dundee does have quite a bit of oil-related activity & a growing knowledge economy so you would think it could sustain more routes.
I hope someone is looking at expansion for you guys.
However Dundee does have quite a bit of oil-related activity & a growing knowledge economy so you would think it could sustain more routes.
I hope someone is looking at expansion for you guys.
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From: Scotland
Dundee and North Sea Oil
Hi,
I agree that the airport in Aberdeen was a factor in the growth of that city as an oil centre but additionally Dundee was a victim of geography.
In the early days offshore activity was fairly equidistant from the ports of Dundee, Montrose, Aberdeen and Peterhead e.g. Argyll, Auk...
BP, Conoco, Ranger, etc all used Dundee in those early days.
As major discoveries started to be found further north - and with increasing fuel costs and travelling time for support operations - onshore base operations naturally followed them north.
It then became difficult to justify shipping goods south by road to Dundee/Montrose and then sailing them north again past Aberdeen & Peterhead.
As time went on fewer and fewer support operations remained in Dundee making the use of the port even less economic for mud companies, etc.
Regards
Jim
I agree that the airport in Aberdeen was a factor in the growth of that city as an oil centre but additionally Dundee was a victim of geography.
In the early days offshore activity was fairly equidistant from the ports of Dundee, Montrose, Aberdeen and Peterhead e.g. Argyll, Auk...
BP, Conoco, Ranger, etc all used Dundee in those early days.
As major discoveries started to be found further north - and with increasing fuel costs and travelling time for support operations - onshore base operations naturally followed them north.
It then became difficult to justify shipping goods south by road to Dundee/Montrose and then sailing them north again past Aberdeen & Peterhead.
As time went on fewer and fewer support operations remained in Dundee making the use of the port even less economic for mud companies, etc.
Regards
Jim
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From: Dundee, Scotland (EGPN)
Weren't there talks between the MOD and Fife Council at attracting more commercial flights to Leuchars at one point?
With a more accommodating runway [than Dundee] already there, less (all be it only slightly) travel time to Edinburgh and around 30min by coach and 10min by train to Dundee, wouldn't this prove more viable than having carriers operating smaller aircraft into Dundee?
Not sure what fee's are like at Leuchars, but I'm guessing there more than the £9/tonne at Dundee.
With a more accommodating runway [than Dundee] already there, less (all be it only slightly) travel time to Edinburgh and around 30min by coach and 10min by train to Dundee, wouldn't this prove more viable than having carriers operating smaller aircraft into Dundee?
Not sure what fee's are like at Leuchars, but I'm guessing there more than the £9/tonne at Dundee.
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Turnips 1 - 4 DUNDEE UTD
I take back wot I said earlier....may no operators come & your airport slip into the Tay estuary..............................
But when you got a fat manager more interested in a suntan, & co-co the clown as your goalie, what do you expect??!!
(Pleased for Eddie Thomson, not very well I hear).
But when you got a fat manager more interested in a suntan, & co-co the clown as your goalie, what do you expect??!!
(Pleased for Eddie Thomson, not very well I hear).
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From: Dundee
Dundee cannot take a 737 as runway only 1400 metres. Was talk of Leuchars opening up as joint military/civil as they have longer runway. Hear that has been completely quashed now......
Rumours at Dundee are that Loggie are going to start a DND-MAN route in summer, Flybe a Belfast route and another unknown operator will take on the birmingham route.........
Rumours at Dundee are that Loggie are going to start a DND-MAN route in summer, Flybe a Belfast route and another unknown operator will take on the birmingham route.........
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From: Dundee
So what do you know about Baggage ? Baggagebob ?
When was the last time you actually handled some baggage ?
Dundee is a small City Airport used mainly by city flyers on business, hence any new routes will be based on the need of the business community. Don't see Cityjet putting a Rj on the LCY route, numbers have dropped since they took over. If anything they may go for the birmingham route with another D328. That would suit the business city flyers more.....
When was the last time you actually handled some baggage ?
Dundee is a small City Airport used mainly by city flyers on business, hence any new routes will be based on the need of the business community. Don't see Cityjet putting a Rj on the LCY route, numbers have dropped since they took over. If anything they may go for the birmingham route with another D328. That would suit the business city flyers more.....