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Harry - I'm sure your intentions are good but perhaps you might like to email your suggestions directly to Aer South East ? If they really are struggling to know how to run an airline, they may well be grateful to hear the ideas from someone with lots of experience. Maybe you could take on some kind of business mentor to them ? Would give you the kudos of having been actively involved in bringing a fledgling airline into reality
My days of playing with aeroplanes, boys and their toys, are long since past, I worked for 2 multi-millionaire entrepreneurs during my time and they both advised me to stay well clear of investing in an airline business!
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Perhaps instead of labouring this topic any further on this thread you might like to contact the airline direct explaining your concerns about the quality of their website. All you would need to do is collate the various statements you have already made. The work would be minimal.
You could explain that you are a professional web page designer and that your long career in aviation includes advising start up airlines. You could list your various job titles and the names of those airlines you have advised. If this were to be done in a spirit of goodwill I imagine the airline would welcome it. You would not need to charge for the service as it is already out in the public domain, but maybe they would be sufficiently impressed to offer you a commission for further work.
We all know that airline startups can be a fraught business and we may guess the chances of success are not be high. But that is not a reason to sneer on a public forum.
EDIT, DJ6 We were obviously preparing similar posts at the same time and I didn't see yours when I pressed Post.
Perhaps instead of labouring this topic any further on this thread you might like to contact the airline direct explaining your concerns about the quality of their website. All you would need to do is collate the various statements you have already made. The work would be minimal.
You could explain that you are a professional web page designer and that your long career in aviation includes advising start up airlines. You could list your various job titles and the names of those airlines you have advised. If this were to be done in a spirit of goodwill I imagine the airline would welcome it. You would not need to charge for the service as it is already out in the public domain, but maybe they would be sufficiently impressed to offer you a commission for further work.
We all know that airline startups can be a fraught business and we may guess the chances of success are not be high. But that is not a reason to sneer on a public forum.
EDIT, DJ6 We were obviously preparing similar posts at the same time and I didn't see yours when I pressed Post.
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Harry Wayfarers
Perhaps instead of labouring this topic any further on this thread you might like to contact the airline direct explaining your concerns about the quality of their website. All you would need to do is collate the various statements you have already made. The work would be minimal.
You could explain that you are a professional web page designer and that your long career in aviation includes advising start up airlines. You could list your various job titles and the names of those airlines you have advised. If this were to be done in a spirit of goodwill I imagine the airline would welcome it. You would not need to charge for the service as it is already out in the public domain, but maybe they would be sufficiently impressed to offer you a commission for further work.
We all know that airline startups can be a fraught business and we may guess the chances of success are not be high. But that is not a reason to sneer on a public forum.
EDIT, DJ6 We were obviously preparing similar posts at the same time and I didn't see yours when I pressed Post.
Perhaps instead of labouring this topic any further on this thread you might like to contact the airline direct explaining your concerns about the quality of their website. All you would need to do is collate the various statements you have already made. The work would be minimal.
You could explain that you are a professional web page designer and that your long career in aviation includes advising start up airlines. You could list your various job titles and the names of those airlines you have advised. If this were to be done in a spirit of goodwill I imagine the airline would welcome it. You would not need to charge for the service as it is already out in the public domain, but maybe they would be sufficiently impressed to offer you a commission for further work.
We all know that airline startups can be a fraught business and we may guess the chances of success are not be high. But that is not a reason to sneer on a public forum.
EDIT, DJ6 We were obviously preparing similar posts at the same time and I didn't see yours when I pressed Post.
... Seriously though I don't need the money and perhaps the reason that I, and others, post what they post here is perhaps that potential fare paying pax may read it and think twice before parting with their hard-earned money to an outfit that can't even put a two bob website together whilst paintshopping an aircraft image that they downloaded from a Google search Or am I missing something?
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'Aer Southeast, an airline due to launch flights to Britain, has been selling tickets without a licence from one of the State’s air travel regulators.
The airline stopped selling flights from Waterford Airport to three British destinations after the Commission for Aviation Reglation (CAR) found that it did not have a tour operators’ licence, which the law requires.'
'In a statement Aer Southeast said that “significant progress” has been made in resolving the issue that the regulator raised in relation to its licence.'
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...ence-1.3134403
The airline stopped selling flights from Waterford Airport to three British destinations after the Commission for Aviation Reglation (CAR) found that it did not have a tour operators’ licence, which the law requires.'
'In a statement Aer Southeast said that “significant progress” has been made in resolving the issue that the regulator raised in relation to its licence.'
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...ence-1.3134403
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I was working with a Saab operator a number of years back, I knew that I had seen that SF340 pic somewhere before and it only took a quick 'Google' to rediscover it.
Aer Southeast planned to begin flying from Waterford to Birmingham, Luton and Manchester from late next month.
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As previously reported by Fora, the recently-founded airline announced last month that it was bringing the first commercial flights to the regional airport in a year.
However, shortly after it started taking bookings, state-backed agency CAR told it to stop selling tickets because it had not obtained the necessary tour operator licence.
CAR said it issued a letter to Aer Southeast to cease trading “as soon as the commission became aware that (the airline) intended to arrange and offer for sale a new service”.
However, shortly after it started taking bookings, state-backed agency CAR told it to stop selling tickets because it had not obtained the necessary tour operator licence.
CAR said it issued a letter to Aer Southeast to cease trading “as soon as the commission became aware that (the airline) intended to arrange and offer for sale a new service”.
Previously I referred to it as a schoolboy project but let's upgrade that to it being a one-man show, what I note is that there is only one spokesperson for the airline, the CEO, never such personnel as a commercial director, a head of flight operations etc., it's clearly a one-man show and if he's ignorant regarding licenses what else is he ignorant regarding, maintenance, minimum equipment lists, flight and duty time limitations etc?
Even if and when this outfit get airborne I certainly wouldn't fly with them, even Manx2 & CityWing had their licenses in place and just look at how bad they were!
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Website is just a standard one from AeroCRS, a company whose main product is minimal websites for airlines who can't afford to pay for a customised website. AeroCRS' main rival is Flexflight. Typically they are used by tiny start-up airlines with maybe one or two props serving less than 10 routes.
Harry - as someone who presumably spends a fair bit of time in the Philippines, you may wish to note the AeroCRS solution is also used by Sky Passada in the Philippines
For a new airline every penny really matters, and as long as a website can handle things like making new bookings, take payment and allow passengers to check-in, then it's good enough
Harry - as someone who presumably spends a fair bit of time in the Philippines, you may wish to note the AeroCRS solution is also used by Sky Passada in the Philippines
For a new airline every penny really matters, and as long as a website can handle things like making new bookings, take payment and allow passengers to check-in, then it's good enough
