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WOWBOY
Its actually a type error on the Aerarann website and press release, i picked it up wrong, it is in fact MAN - GWY and MAN - SXL, as opposed MAN - BRS.
But we all know how likely it would be that RE would launch services head -2- head with the likes of WOW
Its actually a type error on the Aerarann website and press release, i picked it up wrong, it is in fact MAN - GWY and MAN - SXL, as opposed MAN - BRS.
But we all know how likely it would be that RE would launch services head -2- head with the likes of WOW
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Yes, there seems to be an error on the banner ad on the left of the home page, but if you visit the news page it says GWY/NWC and GWY/BRS. They already operate GWY/MAN x 9 weekly.
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BHX
RE72
A bit of a surprise in these parts, as we were softened up into
believing Coventry was in line for some Arann routes.
Is this still possible or is this it for summer 2007?
Arann did well on the Cork and to a lesser extent Galway
and it was disappointing that they left. Even with BMI Baby
on the Cork the route as a whole was still hitting 65-75%
load factors and one can only assume that the yield was
a problem especially in the Winter.
Pete
A bit of a surprise in these parts, as we were softened up into
believing Coventry was in line for some Arann routes.
Is this still possible or is this it for summer 2007?
Arann did well on the Cork and to a lesser extent Galway
and it was disappointing that they left. Even with BMI Baby
on the Cork the route as a whole was still hitting 65-75%
load factors and one can only assume that the yield was
a problem especially in the Winter.
Pete
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RE probably could have survived if it was just Baby, but when EI entered the route they knew they just couldn't compete. I would say that they are unlikely to start Cork-Coventry, simply by the fact that the 3 Cork based planes have fairly full schedules, and even if they could find a hole somewhere, I'd say Prestwick would be more likely so as to cement their monopoly on Cork-Scotland. However,if Cork gets a fourth plane when the first of the new ones arrives next year it could be a different story.
RE probably could have survived if it was just Baby, but when EI entered the route they knew they just couldn't compete. I would say that they are unlikely to start Cork-Coventry, simply by the fact that the 3 Cork based planes have fairly full schedules, and even if they could find a hole somewhere, I'd say Prestwick would be more likely so as to cement their monopoly on Cork-Scotland. However,if Cork gets a fourth plane when the first of the new ones arrives next year it could be a different story.
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Chris Orphanou of Coventry Airport has previously mentioned links between Coventry and Western Ireland, ergo WAT - CVT not happening is no personal surprise to myself, and I hope that the BHX route proves to be a success.
Is there, however, any chance that a Galway to Coventry route could be created? I do know that FlyBe currently operate from Birmingham to Galway, but a little competition would not go amiss...and who knows, could possibly even compliment each other.
Is there, however, any chance that a Galway to Coventry route could be created? I do know that FlyBe currently operate from Birmingham to Galway, but a little competition would not go amiss...and who knows, could possibly even compliment each other.
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Try the math again - they use an ATR72 on it, so 30 days x 70 seats x 2 sectors a day (one there, one back) = 4,200 seats = 47% load factor. The 2,000 proves there is demand, but not enough of it to support the service through the winter at this level. The extra BA on Gatwick probably didn't help either. Probably a bit of chicken and egg about the Luton base - the aircraft seemed to sit in Luton mid morning until early afternoon and only fly three times a day so probably needed strong routes to support it. Waterford / Luton was probably ok but with IOM performing poorly, the aircraft must have lost money overall so the cycle begins . . . route performing poorly, aircraft losing money, invest more or not?, uncertainty about what will happen Bacon and Gatwick, no incentive to invest further, so route performs badly etc.
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Re - Cvt
I cant see CVT being a priority for RE.
There top schedule at the moment is:
ORK - SCOTLAND
DUB - REGIONAL UK
REGIONAL IRELAND (WAT, SXL, GWY, NOC, KIR) - REGIONAL UK
CVT possibly from DUB, unlikely from anywhere else in the short term.
There top schedule at the moment is:
ORK - SCOTLAND
DUB - REGIONAL UK
REGIONAL IRELAND (WAT, SXL, GWY, NOC, KIR) - REGIONAL UK
CVT possibly from DUB, unlikely from anywhere else in the short term.
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Any chance of new flights from Donegal to LTN/MAN etc or does FR at Derry have a big impact on RE's Donegal flights - if so how is Donegal-PIK doing in compeition with FR's new Derry-PIK
Good to see a Sligo-UK service, maybe if MAN does well, LTN could be an option next?
Also do RE have more summer flights till to announce (hopefully HUY-DUB)?
Good to see a Sligo-UK service, maybe if MAN does well, LTN could be an option next?
Also do RE have more summer flights till to announce (hopefully HUY-DUB)?
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AerArann Sligo Manchester
I was also delighted to see a new route from Sligo. I did however, always imagine it would be a London route perhaps to Luton. But maybe AerArann felt that the competition from Knock Ryanair flights would be a problem. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how Sligo to UK does, I believe if it is Marketed to the right audience it could do well.
Ryanair have announced the closure of Kerry to Liverpool, does anyone think Aer Arann will step in and fill the void? The 738s were far to big for the route, I was in Liverpool one day last summer and the aircraft to Kerry was probably less than half full. Would be more suited to an ATR .
Ryanair have announced the closure of Kerry to Liverpool, does anyone think Aer Arann will step in and fill the void? The 738s were far to big for the route, I was in Liverpool one day last summer and the aircraft to Kerry was probably less than half full. Would be more suited to an ATR .
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Do you think that there is any chance of RE resumming EMA-IOM, because the route hasn't been served since EuroManx came off the route several years ago. I don't know what loads would be like or what the yields are but I was just wondering.
I would like services to Galway, Waterford etc. (regional Irish airports) but I don't think there is any chance of this with BHX just down the road.
SAM-EMA
I would like services to Galway, Waterford etc. (regional Irish airports) but I don't think there is any chance of this with BHX just down the road.
SAM-EMA
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Aer Aerann are having a bad time with the weather
17.00 Friday 22nd Update
Weather disruptions in Ireland and the UK
Severe fog is affecting flights between Ireland and the UK.
Aer Arann is doing everything possible to get all our customers back home for Christmas.
Our latest information is:
+All Irish airports are forecast to be open Friday 22nd December.
+RE623 DUB-ORK customers are now moved to flight RE625 dept 15:45.
+Weather in the south of England has resulted in severe disruptions at London and airports across the south of England.
+ RE546 LTN-WAT for Thursday Dec 21, has been transferred to fly on an Aer Lingus flight EI287 Bristol to Dublin. Depart Bristol 14:45, arriving in Dublin at 15:40. Customers will be transferred to Waterford airport by coach.
+Customers should expect delays. At this time, the weather forecast in the next 24 hours is poor for the south east of England. As of 10:00am Dec 22, Cardiff, Bristol, Birmingham and London City airports are closed.
+ Cork-Bristol RE431 and Bristol-Cork RE432, are cancelled today Friday 22nd due to weather. However, Aer Arann will put on an extra service Saturday 23rd December to cater for these customers. Flight time to be advised after 15:00 today Friday 22nd December.
+As Cardiff and Bristol are closed as of 10:30 am today Friday 22 December, all Aer Arann flights from Dublin and Cork to Cardiff and Bristol are likely to be diverted to Birmingham. Please check-in on time for your flights as you will be coach transferred to Birmingham. Similiarily if you arrive in Birmingham from Cork or Dublin, you will be transferred to Cardiff or Bristol.
+RE315 and RE316 Dublin / Cardiff is cancelled as Cardiff and nearby airports are closed. We are hoping to rebook customers on tomorrow's flights. Please check aeraran.com for updates tomorrow, Saturday.
+RE506 LTN-GWY and RE544 LTN-WAT for Friday Dec 22 were combined into one flight and this flight was supposed to depart Luton at 13:00 on RE1501. At present, this chartered aircraft is slot restricted at its current departure airport. In the meantime, weather in Luton has closed in, meaning that we have had to change plans. Unfortunatly, this means that the aircraft will not now depart out of Luton. Aer Arann is trying to work out the next best alternative to get customers out of Luton home to Ireland. We are trying all alternatives. At present our best estimate is for this aircraft to arrive in Luton at 17:30 for 18:00. Departure will be scheduled after this time. On arrival in Dublin, Waterford customers will be transferred by coach to Waterford.
We are hoping to transfer Galway customers by Aer Arann flight direct to Galway.
+RE501 GWY-LTN, RE503 GWY-LTN and RE545 WAT-LTN for Friday Dec 22, will now travel via Dublin to Luton on RE1502. Our best estimate for this departure is now 16:30 DUB-LTN arriving 17:30.
+ As of 15:00 today Friday December 22nd, we are not in a position to give an exact flight time for our specially chartered Aer Arann aircraft to transport our customers from Luton back to Ireland and vice versa. Affected flights are:
+RE504 LTN-GWY and RE542 LTN-WAT
+RE543 WAT-LTN
Aer Arann is trying everything to sort customers affected on these flights. We will have this information on aerarann.com as soon as arrangements can be made. We apologise for all these changes but they are out of Aer Arann's control..
+Aer Arann apologise that RE508 LTN-GWY and RE546 LTN-WAT is now cancelled. Luton and nearby airports are closed. We hope to rebook you on tomorrows flights. Please check aerarann.com for updates tomorrow
+Aer Arann apologise that RE507 GWY-LTN and RE547 WAT-LTN is now cancelled. Luton and nearby airports are closed. We hope to rebook you on tomorrows flights. Please check aerarann.com for updates tomorrow
+ Isle Of Man - Luton flights are currently operating on schedule. However LTN-IOM may have delays due to weather at Luton. Customers should be aware that there is a danger of cancellation if the weather in Luton worsens.
+Our call centre is open and working extra hours to try and contact as many customers as possible by text to update them with the latest information.
+We will be updating the website throughout the day.
+Aer Arann is committed to bringing home all its customers for Christmas. We have contingency plans in place for Sat 23 December and Sunday 24 December, should the weather to upset our customers travel plans. Please bear with us - we do want to get you home!
17.00 Friday 22nd Update
Weather disruptions in Ireland and the UK
Severe fog is affecting flights between Ireland and the UK.
Aer Arann is doing everything possible to get all our customers back home for Christmas.
Our latest information is:
+All Irish airports are forecast to be open Friday 22nd December.
+RE623 DUB-ORK customers are now moved to flight RE625 dept 15:45.
+Weather in the south of England has resulted in severe disruptions at London and airports across the south of England.
+ RE546 LTN-WAT for Thursday Dec 21, has been transferred to fly on an Aer Lingus flight EI287 Bristol to Dublin. Depart Bristol 14:45, arriving in Dublin at 15:40. Customers will be transferred to Waterford airport by coach.
+Customers should expect delays. At this time, the weather forecast in the next 24 hours is poor for the south east of England. As of 10:00am Dec 22, Cardiff, Bristol, Birmingham and London City airports are closed.
+ Cork-Bristol RE431 and Bristol-Cork RE432, are cancelled today Friday 22nd due to weather. However, Aer Arann will put on an extra service Saturday 23rd December to cater for these customers. Flight time to be advised after 15:00 today Friday 22nd December.
+As Cardiff and Bristol are closed as of 10:30 am today Friday 22 December, all Aer Arann flights from Dublin and Cork to Cardiff and Bristol are likely to be diverted to Birmingham. Please check-in on time for your flights as you will be coach transferred to Birmingham. Similiarily if you arrive in Birmingham from Cork or Dublin, you will be transferred to Cardiff or Bristol.
+RE315 and RE316 Dublin / Cardiff is cancelled as Cardiff and nearby airports are closed. We are hoping to rebook customers on tomorrow's flights. Please check aeraran.com for updates tomorrow, Saturday.
+RE506 LTN-GWY and RE544 LTN-WAT for Friday Dec 22 were combined into one flight and this flight was supposed to depart Luton at 13:00 on RE1501. At present, this chartered aircraft is slot restricted at its current departure airport. In the meantime, weather in Luton has closed in, meaning that we have had to change plans. Unfortunatly, this means that the aircraft will not now depart out of Luton. Aer Arann is trying to work out the next best alternative to get customers out of Luton home to Ireland. We are trying all alternatives. At present our best estimate is for this aircraft to arrive in Luton at 17:30 for 18:00. Departure will be scheduled after this time. On arrival in Dublin, Waterford customers will be transferred by coach to Waterford.
We are hoping to transfer Galway customers by Aer Arann flight direct to Galway.
+RE501 GWY-LTN, RE503 GWY-LTN and RE545 WAT-LTN for Friday Dec 22, will now travel via Dublin to Luton on RE1502. Our best estimate for this departure is now 16:30 DUB-LTN arriving 17:30.
+ As of 15:00 today Friday December 22nd, we are not in a position to give an exact flight time for our specially chartered Aer Arann aircraft to transport our customers from Luton back to Ireland and vice versa. Affected flights are:
+RE504 LTN-GWY and RE542 LTN-WAT
+RE543 WAT-LTN
Aer Arann is trying everything to sort customers affected on these flights. We will have this information on aerarann.com as soon as arrangements can be made. We apologise for all these changes but they are out of Aer Arann's control..
+Aer Arann apologise that RE508 LTN-GWY and RE546 LTN-WAT is now cancelled. Luton and nearby airports are closed. We hope to rebook you on tomorrows flights. Please check aerarann.com for updates tomorrow
+Aer Arann apologise that RE507 GWY-LTN and RE547 WAT-LTN is now cancelled. Luton and nearby airports are closed. We hope to rebook you on tomorrows flights. Please check aerarann.com for updates tomorrow
+ Isle Of Man - Luton flights are currently operating on schedule. However LTN-IOM may have delays due to weather at Luton. Customers should be aware that there is a danger of cancellation if the weather in Luton worsens.
+Our call centre is open and working extra hours to try and contact as many customers as possible by text to update them with the latest information.
+We will be updating the website throughout the day.
+Aer Arann is committed to bringing home all its customers for Christmas. We have contingency plans in place for Sat 23 December and Sunday 24 December, should the weather to upset our customers travel plans. Please bear with us - we do want to get you home!
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BHX closed??
''As of 10:00am Dec 22, Cardiff, Bristol, Birmingham and London City airports are closed. ''
Please can I qualify - At no point today has BHX been closed to inbound traffic. Aircraft have landed throughout the day however some aircraft unfortunately may have diverted due to their own low visibility capabilities; an issue with the aircraft operated, not the airfield infrastucture. BHX has infact taken many diversions from both Cardiff and Bristol.
-BHXboy-
Please can I qualify - At no point today has BHX been closed to inbound traffic. Aircraft have landed throughout the day however some aircraft unfortunately may have diverted due to their own low visibility capabilities; an issue with the aircraft operated, not the airfield infrastucture. BHX has infact taken many diversions from both Cardiff and Bristol.
-BHXboy-
Buzz off with BAF!!
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London Southend did well to assist with Aer Arann diversions yesterday.
60 plus additional flights were handled at the airport, including Aer Arann, and were glad to be diverted within a few miles of London.
60 plus additional flights were handled at the airport, including Aer Arann, and were glad to be diverted within a few miles of London.
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Looks like Cardiff and Bristol took hits too but from their website they are laying on extras for Saturday to get everyone home - extra Lutons and also replacements for the Cardiff and Bristol cancellations. Hopefully the weather will hold up for them.
Apparently they used a French MD80 into Shannon on Thursday to clear the Luton backlog and used a 737 today out of EMA to do the same.
Good to see an airline at least trying to go beyond the "sorry your flight is cancelled, please go away" attitude so prevalent today. No doubt there will still be the usual "my granny was delayed for 36 hours" horror stories dug up by the journos but credit where credit's due, at least they are trying to treat their customers better than they are obliged to do.
Apparently they used a French MD80 into Shannon on Thursday to clear the Luton backlog and used a 737 today out of EMA to do the same.
Good to see an airline at least trying to go beyond the "sorry your flight is cancelled, please go away" attitude so prevalent today. No doubt there will still be the usual "my granny was delayed for 36 hours" horror stories dug up by the journos but credit where credit's due, at least they are trying to treat their customers better than they are obliged to do.
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Couldn't agree more. The airline has taken a lot of slack from the media in Ireland - totally unfounded - when in fact they have gone to extraordinary lengths to get their pax home for Christmas. They could have done what most carriers have done and say weather is not our fault, tough luck. Well done RE, hope it stands to you in the future!
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Aer Arann - bases?
I know Aer Arann have a fleet of 14 ATR 72s. I understand some are based at DUB and some at ORK. I think there are also two in the Isle of Man. But can anyone tell me exactly what number of aircraft are based where?
many thanks
many thanks