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Coke man correct, but they have ordered 10 of them, so the Waterford performance issue will then be null and void!
So currently how many departing passengers from Waterford are 'off loaded' due to performance issues, or how often are bags left behind as a result of weight restrictions?
So currently how many departing passengers from Waterford are 'off loaded' due to performance issues, or how often are bags left behind as a result of weight restrictions?
Buster,
It doesn't happen that often (I think, don't fly there anymore), but when Rwy 03 is in use and you have up to 72 pax on board and a wet runway, it does happen that either pax or bags need to be offloaded. Sometimes you are better off departing with a tailwind on Rwy 21 and thereby be able to carry more weight.
I haven't flown the -500 for the last couple of years so I can't really remember the performance anymore. But I think there will still be a slight penalty for rwy 03, don't forget the -500 weights 1000 kg's more than the old 200/201.
tfcm.
It doesn't happen that often (I think, don't fly there anymore), but when Rwy 03 is in use and you have up to 72 pax on board and a wet runway, it does happen that either pax or bags need to be offloaded. Sometimes you are better off departing with a tailwind on Rwy 21 and thereby be able to carry more weight.
I haven't flown the -500 for the last couple of years so I can't really remember the performance anymore. But I think there will still be a slight penalty for rwy 03, don't forget the -500 weights 1000 kg's more than the old 200/201.
tfcm.
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http://www.atraircraft.com/atr72500.htm#prod
http://www.q400.com/q400/en/specifications.jsp
The further you're going the more attractive the Q400 is but RE being an existing ATR operator would have had to be the deal of the century to get a BBD win.
http://www.atraircraft.com/atr72500.htm#prod
http://www.q400.com/q400/en/specifications.jsp
The further you're going the more attractive the Q400 is but RE being an existing ATR operator would have had to be the deal of the century to get a BBD win.
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It looks to me as though they've moved the existing Cork-Angers and Manchester-Angers services to Nantes. Not so much a new route.
It would probably pick up more traffic from the French side as Nantes is a much larger city. Angers is a very pleasant place, so it's a pity it's going to be less accessible.
It looks to me as though they've moved the existing Cork-Angers and Manchester-Angers services to Nantes. Not so much a new route.
It would probably pick up more traffic from the French side as Nantes is a much larger city. Angers is a very pleasant place, so it's a pity it's going to be less accessible.
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Hello flying coke man
I concur with your comments on operating out of WAT
Hope your taking it EASY drinking your fat boy cokes. I guess you dont have these problems anymore. Hope the sim is going well and your getting to grips with your EMERgencies a lot
Its good to see your keeping a "breast" with everything
Dont get to big
Sir Sank
I concur with your comments on operating out of WAT
Hope your taking it EASY drinking your fat boy cokes. I guess you dont have these problems anymore. Hope the sim is going well and your getting to grips with your EMERgencies a lot
Its good to see your keeping a "breast" with everything
Dont get to big
Sir Sank
Sir Sank,
I like your name a lot kind of reminds me of another surname.
You sound like a hillbilly boy from Devon !!
The sim went well, 2day actually.
By the way I don't have any idea what you are writing about
tfcm
I like your name a lot kind of reminds me of another surname.
You sound like a hillbilly boy from Devon !!
The sim went well, 2day actually.
By the way I don't have any idea what you are writing about
tfcm
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So the Flying Cokeman is getting a bit friendly is he? Sir Sank must be at least a DD. If only you were something more than an A cup cokeman...
At least you can keep your EASY DD work secret from the EMERgencies now...
All the best..
At least you can keep your EASY DD work secret from the EMERgencies now...
All the best..
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LPL-IOM routes
Aer Arran customer services agent confirmed to me that they were dropping LPL-IOM route effective 18 June 2006. Apparently load factors were very poor - roundabout the 20% mark
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Good news for Euromanx, perhaps they will now finally get around to operating their own aircraft on the route. Think we will see a further migration of passengers to Man at the expense of Lpl. The Manx public will have to get used to higher (more realistic) fares
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The reason is pretty clear in http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/airport/p...lywebsite1.pdf - Liverpool is in decline and if you work the Arran figures back, they had a total of 9,730 in April. Dublin accounted for 3,102 of these and if you assume they had 50% of the Luton market (say 3,000 out of 5,921), this leaves just 3,600 for them on Liverpool, so Euromanx must have carried almost 12,000 of the 15,000 on the route, giving Arran market share of around 20%.
The withdrawal seems part of an overall tidying up of their network over the last few months - I presume the cancellation of the expedition to Liege, other routes out of Luton and the Isle of Man to Manchester and Liverpool didn't stack up with the bean counters in the clear light of day, and these aircraft will be used more profitably elsewhere.
Euromanx will benefit certainly but they will come under huge scrutiny to make sure they don't try to jack up the prices now that they have the route to themselves again. The reason Arran were encouraged onto the Liverpool route was partly because the IOM Government wanted a competitor to put manners on Euromanx, who wasted no time in pushing fares up after Emerald went away.
So, what odds on Manx2 having a go at Liverpool with 20 Let 410s per day?
The withdrawal seems part of an overall tidying up of their network over the last few months - I presume the cancellation of the expedition to Liege, other routes out of Luton and the Isle of Man to Manchester and Liverpool didn't stack up with the bean counters in the clear light of day, and these aircraft will be used more profitably elsewhere.
Euromanx will benefit certainly but they will come under huge scrutiny to make sure they don't try to jack up the prices now that they have the route to themselves again. The reason Arran were encouraged onto the Liverpool route was partly because the IOM Government wanted a competitor to put manners on Euromanx, who wasted no time in pushing fares up after Emerald went away.
So, what odds on Manx2 having a go at Liverpool with 20 Let 410s per day?
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Flybe might be coaxed to take up the route. If recent IOM Government policy continues then they will not want the Liverpool route operated by a single airline although they must be running out of airlines to try
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Push button B - Part of the reason why Euromanx put up the fares when Emerald came off the route was they had agreed to carry 13000 Emerald booked pax free of charge who would otherwise have been left stranded.
Euromanx don't need to have manners put on them the LPL-IOM route has been losing money for all operators for far too long, perhaps now fares will reach a realistic level and the Manx government will stop playing their silly games.
Euromanx don't need to have manners put on them the LPL-IOM route has been losing money for all operators for far too long, perhaps now fares will reach a realistic level and the Manx government will stop playing their silly games.
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Hansol - precisely. The IOM Govt should keep it's nose out of the commercial market and concentrate on running the airport efficiently - even half efficiently would do! If the govt did want to play 'airlines' it should have bought up Manx Airlines as was and monopolised all the routes off the Island. Why hasn't the message sunk in yet with whoever runs the air transport side of things in govt over there: Isle of Man = too many operators for too few people = inefficient and unreliable air services for everybody including those off the Island.
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aerarann and Irish Transportation Dept
Does any one know why the Irish aviation law does not allow an Irish airline Aer ARANN to fly into Angers in France when Air France and Flybee are flying there.