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Old 6th Jan 2006, 11:05
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5x LHR with DC-9 back in the day!

Yes Belfast was SH360 with Jersey and Gill. I think EMB110 at some point too.

I don't think Dan Air did LHR did they? I know their 146 used to fly a daily AMS flight, maybe continuing on to NCL. I seem to remember Dan Air also doing a Bergen flight at one time, but maybe that was via somewhere.

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Re: Durham Tees Valley

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5x LHR with DC-9 back in the day!
Yes Belfast was SH360 with Jersey and Gill. I think EMB110 at some point too.
I don't think Dan Air did LHR did they? I know their 146 used to fly a daily AMS flight, maybe continuing on to NCL. I seem to remember Dan Air also doing a Bergen flight at one time, but maybe that was via somewhere.
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Old 6th Jan 2006, 13:49
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I've contacted my source at the airport and I should soon be able to tell you whether there's any truth in the rumours mentioned in this thread.
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Right, I now have some concrete info:

AMS is currently 3x daily with a F100 and is definitely going 4x daily with a F70, however, the current F100 3x daily flights are over booked and people are being refunded so we could easily fill a F100 and possibly a 737 on 4x daily AMS flights.

Eastern Airways have acquired new J41's and they like MME so hopefully new routes are in the pipeline.

As for Rome, it's unlikely that bmibaby will be taking the route over but with 10,000 pax per month someone should pick up on it!
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Old 6th Jan 2006, 17:03
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As Rome is not currently a destination served by either mainline or baby, I can't see bmibaby being the airline to replace Ryanair on this route, however FCO was a bmi city back in the days of Midland from LHR, and I've been told that there is potential of Italian & Spanish expansion for bmi, so whilst there might not be a direct flight, Rome may soon be bookable via LHR. I'd be interested on a related note to see how bookings are doing for the baby LGW. I don't really hear much from the other bases, but MME appears to be a successful base for WW, and deserves expansion.
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Dan Air used to fly NCL TEESIDE AMS and return with a146- 100 in two class configuration, elite and economy. The Norwegan flights to I think Bergen Stavanger and Kristiansands were from NCL.Then they were eventually taken over by Brathens.
I remember many years ago flying NCL to LPL via TEESIDE in an Airspeed ambasador (elizabethan) There was just 3 pax on board.
Durham tees valley airport seems to be expanding quite well with a second based aircraft from BMI baby coming soon thats doubling there pax numbers, and the new BRS service will be very popular I think!.Plus the KL increases and possibly a larger aircraft from Thomson this summer.
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Old 6th Jan 2006, 18:21
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Re: Durham Tees Valley

Unfortunately no larger aircraft from Thomsonfly this summer, it seems destined to be a B737-800 again

As for Eastern, there are not many routes that I think would work for them, however Inverness could be one, Southampton possibly, but that would be competing against their own NCL-SOU service .....having said that they do offer MME/LBA/NCL/HUY-ABZ so it could be possible

Does anyone know how much they have got done over the south side?

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With flybe. increasing their Newcastle - Southampton route to 3x daily this year, Eastern may be forced off the route. They may consider a MME-SOU route then.
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The rumours about a possible Brussels route from MME first surfaced several months ago hidden at the bottom of an interview between the Airport MD and the local evening rag. The same article also mentioned a possible new route between MME and London City. From memory, I believe this was just prior to BMibaby announcing it’s new Gatwick route, so at the time I thought no more of it, and just put it down to wishful thinking by airport management.

Other rumours currently doing the rounds on various forums include Eastern supposedly eyeing up a couple of ex Euromanx BAe 146’s to add to their fleet, and BMi expanding its long haul flights.

I take all this with a huge pinch of salt of course but, a 146 on an MME-LCY route might just be viable, and it could also make a considerable dent in the number of passengers using BMi’s existing mainline Heathrow service from MME. People I know that use BMi actually work in London, and don’t interline to flights elsewhere, so to them, LCY would be a far more attractive proposition dependant upon timings. This would then give BMi a good reason to pull it’s MME-Heathrow service without unduly upsetting the locals, etc. and for it to then use the subsequent surplus slots at Heathrow for possible long haul expansion.

All pure rumour, speculation, and probably all c**p, but it’s a New Year, and we need some good news instead of the ‘‘haven’t we done well in 2005 to provide a new car park and a free bus service for passengers to Darlington railway station’’ type press releases put out by the airport. (It ain’t free at all, but that’s another story !!)

As for the planned expansion / development of the airport, this is currently being held up big time by no lesser body than the Highways Agency. They apparently want a further assessment of traffic levels at the Longnewton-A66 junction based on an assumption that the proposed new road interchange won’t go ahead. As it’s already been agreed, nobody seems to know what their game is, other than to further delay the planning application submitted over a year ago now. It’s about time the local MP’s and media started to ask a few questions, but this just won’t happen. It’s only a small local airport in the north east after all.
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Re: Durham Tees Valley

Why don't Eastern operate Teesside - Bournemouth? FRA are a big user at Teesside and their HQ is Bournemouth. Bournemouth is also popular with the blue rinse brigade and the stag/hen scene. Southampton is well served from Leeds and Newcastle but Bournemouth is left out. Surely a 2x daily J31 would be popular?
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Re: Durham Tees Valley

The last thing we need is the loss of MME - LHR!
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Doncaster Sheffield

Isn't Doncaster Sheffield getting summer charter flights to the USA and even the Middle East?

And why is it called Robin Hood Airport anyway when it's no where near Sherwood Forest?
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The airport web site says Thomson flying to Florida, Mexico & the Dominican Republic.
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Re: Doncaster Sheffield

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And why is it called Robin Hood Airport anyway when it's no where near Sherwood Forest?
Sherwood Forest covered most of the north of England at the time R. H. was supposed to have existed.

And, if you recall the kiddies stories, his other name was Robin of Loxley; Loxley is a small village in a rather peaceful wooded valley a few km north-west of Sheffield. You can take a nice walk there from (I think) the Malin Head supertram terminus. The only association he had with Nottingham is that had he existed, he would have fallen under the jurisdiction of the Sheriff of Nottingham.

And besides, the folks at Nottingham-EMA rejected 'Robin Hood Airport' in favour of a much more easily remembered and geographically specific name :-)

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Old 7th Jan 2006, 17:09
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Re: Durham Tees Valley

Originally Posted by mmeteesside
It's just a shame bmi don't see the same value, a few years ago the LHR-MME was 5x a day, now it's only 3. When they increased it to 4x daily last winter, the load factors went up by a higher percentage than the percentage of extra seats, doesn't that tell them something.........being bmi, probably not
Of course it told bmi something - that they were operating a route that was picking up good loads and was obviously what was wanted - lucky it wasn't cut to twice daily as a result of that

I started to use it again for business travel while it went back to four times daily, I'm back on BA to NCL now as it's crazy trying to do a day's work around BD schedules to anywhere these days - and don't start me on the service now...
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Old 8th Jan 2006, 13:42
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BMI's service to LHR is their longest-running flight. It would be a crying shame to lose it. A LCY service would be nice, especially since so many people are flying JUST to London. But there are a LOT of people transferring too - you just have to listen to people in the check-in line on the first flight of the day. Their final destinations are all over the world.

If we lost this service, the demand would all have to use KLM. It's not enough.

What ever happened to the LBA-LCY service bmi did? Did it not work out?

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Old 8th Jan 2006, 13:58
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Finningley (where DSA is) is actually only a few miles from what is left of Sherwood Forest. It's much closer to Sherwood Forest than Nottingham (or EMA) is. There are a lot of local links to Robin Hood.
That said, us locals do not like the name Peel gave the airport, but don't let it detract from what is turning out to be a superb little airport with a lot of potential for expansion.
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Old 8th Jan 2006, 16:31
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Re: Durham Tees Valley

I understand that the LBA - LCY was carrying loads of about 1500/1600 per month which wasn't viable.

Issues such as "lack of advertising" were raised by critics at the time as reasons after the withdrawal of the route in April last year by BMI.

The NCL - LCY route should work..operated by Eastern... with the fare hike just imposed by GNER on the NCL - London rail link giving it a timely boost for its 30th Jan. launch.
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Old 9th Jan 2006, 21:56
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Don't expect any south side development in the near future, work on the parallel taxyway will not happen before 2008 at the earliest but the terminal is getting a new frontage. Do Peel realise what the operational priorities are?
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Old 10th Jan 2006, 10:55
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The terminal will look identical to that of Doncaster Sheffield and Liverpool
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