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L G Double - Yew is of course quite right the airport needs twelve months of the year flying, but thereby hangs the rub, in the Winter the traffic just isn't there. I go back commercially from Newquay to the 1960's and I am afraid it never has been, Granted things have improved in the last five years or so but we have a way to go yet before it is viable to operate much more than already exists especially in the current economic climate.
Scheduled routes will be started and others will be scrapped but overall we are probably near the top of the available market for now.
Scheduled routes will be started and others will be scrapped but overall we are probably near the top of the available market for now.
Not sure how ASW will react to this, but Flybe have secured slots at Gatwick for LGW-NQY from February. It's apparently something to do with Continental's pull-out from LGW which has freed up morning slots, giving Flybe enough for a 3 x daily operation with a Q400.
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LGW-NQY x3 per day on flybe?
that could be intersting and replaces the BA x1 service and a bit more as far as capacity goes as the above post says it will be on a q400
would this mean a based aircraft at NQY for flybe? as far as i am aware Flybe dont base or overnight any aircraft at LGW?
that could be intersting and replaces the BA x1 service and a bit more as far as capacity goes as the above post says it will be on a q400
would this mean a based aircraft at NQY for flybe? as far as i am aware Flybe dont base or overnight any aircraft at LGW?
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Flightrider - not sure where you got your information from but would be welcome. However, I understand that recent new Gatwick slots have been freed up for Newcastle with Exeter crews night stopping to temp cover it. Flybe certainly seem be focusing no LGW at the moment
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Do WOW flights from NQY to LGW operate via PLH in either direction? Obviously the BE flights will be direct
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I suspect Flybe aren't particularly popular in Cornwall. After a lot of hype about launching flights from Newquay this time last year, they've pulled out with as much speed as they came in:
Newquay-Southampton: Dropped before it started
Newquay-Geneva: Dropped before it started
Newquay-Birmingham: Dropped
Newquay-Glasgow: Dropped within a couple of months of starting
Newquay-Edinburgh: Dropped, for the winter at least
Newquay-Belfast: Only operated in the summer (and Jet2 are picking it up next summer)
At the same time, to be fair they have done good things at Exeter, especially with routes to Spain, Portugal etc which probably wouldn't work from NQY.
I'm sure ASW's route from LGW to NQY does ok, but they only have to fill 50 seats and they get half their load from PLH. I'm guessing that if Flybe have a Dash8-400 and some LGW slots going spare, they would find something far more lucrative to do with them than flying to NQY!
Newquay-Southampton: Dropped before it started
Newquay-Geneva: Dropped before it started
Newquay-Birmingham: Dropped
Newquay-Glasgow: Dropped within a couple of months of starting
Newquay-Edinburgh: Dropped, for the winter at least
Newquay-Belfast: Only operated in the summer (and Jet2 are picking it up next summer)
At the same time, to be fair they have done good things at Exeter, especially with routes to Spain, Portugal etc which probably wouldn't work from NQY.
I'm sure ASW's route from LGW to NQY does ok, but they only have to fill 50 seats and they get half their load from PLH. I'm guessing that if Flybe have a Dash8-400 and some LGW slots going spare, they would find something far more lucrative to do with them than flying to NQY!
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GVA was advertised locally here again for winter this year and bookable but has since been pulled prior to kicking off operations.
i think that what others have said on here is true, flymaybe need to watch themselves at NQY, we need them here but not trying to force WOW off existing routes only to cancel them and not advertising routes that turn out not to run.
everyone accepts that the current economic climate is rubbish but come on!
i think that what others have said on here is true, flymaybe need to watch themselves at NQY, we need them here but not trying to force WOW off existing routes only to cancel them and not advertising routes that turn out not to run.
everyone accepts that the current economic climate is rubbish but come on!
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I think it unfair to criticise Flybe in this way because they are one of few airlines that actually make commercially sensible decisions. If passengers are not booking to fly they will not operate.
The only people to blame for Flybe's decision to pull routes is the people who are suppose to use them, in other words the public. I do not see Flybe pulling routes where they have sufficient numbers using their services.
Flybe are not trying to pull WOW off any routes - they only competed with WOW on the Glasgow service. SOU was pulled because no-one booked and BHX was pulled for the same. BHD and EDI have always been summer only like many other Flybe services such as Exeter to Inverness (although I think EDI operated at reduced frequency last winter - I am not sure) GLA was pulled as a temporary measure in view of the cost of fuel however this was the only route that was directly affected by fuel.
GVA was fairly succesful last year but a scheduled airline cannot rely on charter companies and therefore this has been pulled. Again if people want these routes they have to use them!
The only people to blame for Flybe's decision to pull routes is the people who are suppose to use them, in other words the public. I do not see Flybe pulling routes where they have sufficient numbers using their services.
Flybe are not trying to pull WOW off any routes - they only competed with WOW on the Glasgow service. SOU was pulled because no-one booked and BHX was pulled for the same. BHD and EDI have always been summer only like many other Flybe services such as Exeter to Inverness (although I think EDI operated at reduced frequency last winter - I am not sure) GLA was pulled as a temporary measure in view of the cost of fuel however this was the only route that was directly affected by fuel.
GVA was fairly succesful last year but a scheduled airline cannot rely on charter companies and therefore this has been pulled. Again if people want these routes they have to use them!
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As an employee I am very defensive when people moan and groan for the sake of it (see Flybe thread) however there are several things that do either irritate me or make me wonder why.
NQY-LGW is one of those 'why?' situations. To expand on this, I am concerned that Flybe are allegedly looking at this route as WOW already offer this at 50 capacity and rarely is it completely full. Therefore I am intrigued as to how Flybe intend to fill 78 seats on the Q400.
I think there are many opportunities for Flybe to look at however NQY should not be one. There is not enough demand to sufficiently fill 78 seats on domestic routes nor will people pay for Flybe international routes when you have RYR operating Girona and Alicante.
Then again it would be nice to be proved wrong - the more people booking the more money the company makes, the more succesful we become
NQY-LGW is one of those 'why?' situations. To expand on this, I am concerned that Flybe are allegedly looking at this route as WOW already offer this at 50 capacity and rarely is it completely full. Therefore I am intrigued as to how Flybe intend to fill 78 seats on the Q400.
I think there are many opportunities for Flybe to look at however NQY should not be one. There is not enough demand to sufficiently fill 78 seats on domestic routes nor will people pay for Flybe international routes when you have RYR operating Girona and Alicante.
Then again it would be nice to be proved wrong - the more people booking the more money the company makes, the more succesful we become
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This is what Flybe do, they jump on routes of other carriers that build them up from nothing and do the leg work.
Then they go ruin the route when they force the other carrier off. Then they start cancelling services and reducing daily services to 3/4 a week
This is what Flybe do, they jump on routes of other carriers that build them up from nothing and do the leg work.
Then they go ruin the route when they force the other carrier off. Then they start cancelling services and reducing daily services to 3/4 a week
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That is not true Wellington Bomber and I would strongly suggest you look at some facts - and I mean the entire flybe network and not just a couple of examples at NQY - before coming up with such statements. I am one of Flybe's loyal employees but I am also one of their harshes critics when I feel critism is justified. Yes routes have come and gone and some of them were a mess, however Flybe do not have any tactics such as those suggested in your post.
Flybe genuinly make a go of routes and if the competition is that weak that they fail - well that is their problem. A succesful airline should win over any other competition if they offer such a good product as it is the passengers that decide at the end of the day.
I strongly hope Flybe are succesful on this route and work alongside WOW well, more to prove people like you wrong. I guess its another one of those lets wait and see moments.
Flybe genuinly make a go of routes and if the competition is that weak that they fail - well that is their problem. A succesful airline should win over any other competition if they offer such a good product as it is the passengers that decide at the end of the day.
I strongly hope Flybe are succesful on this route and work alongside WOW well, more to prove people like you wrong. I guess its another one of those lets wait and see moments.