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BALaddy, let me tell you that you're talking rubbish!
Everyone on here thinks that when a large carrier operates a marginal route it's a "slot holder". LGW slots are not that hard to come by when compared to the likes of LCY or LHR so they wouldn't operate this route for the sake of it.
BA seem to be doing very well, I was on it the other week and there was about 90-100 on board.
Everyone on here thinks that when a large carrier operates a marginal route it's a "slot holder". LGW slots are not that hard to come by when compared to the likes of LCY or LHR so they wouldn't operate this route for the sake of it.
BA seem to be doing very well, I was on it the other week and there was about 90-100 on board.
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Well there were 30 POB on a B737-500 yesterday so that's about 25 passengers....Having said that I flew down on a Ryanair at about 35% full and back on one about 75%+ full so someone's doing OK. Now can someone tell me why all the men in Newquay are pretty blondes that surf please? lol
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BBC NEWS | England | Cornwall | Airport expansion grants scrapped
Airports in the South West will no longer get grants to expand from the South West Regional Development Agency.
Instead the organisation wants to encourage airports to become "greener" and lessen their environmental impact.
Campaigners who have been fighting to stop expansion at Newquay airport welcomed the news.
The RDA said it would invest in greener planes and better public transport access to airports. It said funding already allocated would still be given.
We will be investing our money in greening airport operations 
Dan Oakey, SWRDA
Dan Oakey from the South West Regional Development Agency said: "We won't be investing in further airport expansion across the region. We will be investing our money in greening airport operations."
He also said that airports are very important to the South West, contributing £420m to the economy and over 8,600 jobs.
Andrew Mitchell from Cornwall County Council, which owns Newquay Airport, said the policy change would "absolutely not" affect plans to expand the airport in order to double the number of passengers it serves and make it profitable.
Airports 'needed'
The council hopes to buy land left vacant when neighbouring RAF St Mawgan closes in October.
"The £8m (already promised by the SWRDA) is still in place. They are fully behind the county council, knowing to have a strong economy in the region we need the airport," he said.
Oliver Baines from Stop Newquay Airport Expansion said: "We have always been told that the economic benefits of airport expansion outweigh the considerable environmental impacts of noise, traffic and climate changing emissions ... this (news) makes it clear that not even the local development agency now believes this." Other airports in the South West which may be affected by the SWRDA decision are Plymouth, Exeter, Bristol and Bournemouth.
Instead the organisation wants to encourage airports to become "greener" and lessen their environmental impact.
Campaigners who have been fighting to stop expansion at Newquay airport welcomed the news.
The RDA said it would invest in greener planes and better public transport access to airports. It said funding already allocated would still be given.
We will be investing our money in greening airport operations Dan Oakey, SWRDA
Dan Oakey from the South West Regional Development Agency said: "We won't be investing in further airport expansion across the region. We will be investing our money in greening airport operations."
He also said that airports are very important to the South West, contributing £420m to the economy and over 8,600 jobs.
Andrew Mitchell from Cornwall County Council, which owns Newquay Airport, said the policy change would "absolutely not" affect plans to expand the airport in order to double the number of passengers it serves and make it profitable.
Airports 'needed'
The council hopes to buy land left vacant when neighbouring RAF St Mawgan closes in October.
"The £8m (already promised by the SWRDA) is still in place. They are fully behind the county council, knowing to have a strong economy in the region we need the airport," he said.
Oliver Baines from Stop Newquay Airport Expansion said: "We have always been told that the economic benefits of airport expansion outweigh the considerable environmental impacts of noise, traffic and climate changing emissions ... this (news) makes it clear that not even the local development agency now believes this." Other airports in the South West which may be affected by the SWRDA decision are Plymouth, Exeter, Bristol and Bournemouth.
Perhaps some of the money might be better directed to Treliske so that the cancer unit there will not be closed down as is planned and Cornish sufferers will not have to travel to Derriford in Plymouth, Devon for treatment.
If the county council got its act together and utilised the facility at Newquay to its full potential by encouraging other activity there SWRDA money would not even be needed.
If the county council got its act together and utilised the facility at Newquay to its full potential by encouraging other activity there SWRDA money would not even be needed.
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Without the funding from SWRDA the Transition wouldn't take place and the Airport would close... once full aerodrome is available to develop ancillary services to the main passenger traffic it will be.
Agreed on the need for investment in to Hospitals.
Agreed on the need for investment in to Hospitals.
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Just for the record Cancel services at RCHT are not being closed down.
Some specialised upper GI CA treatments are being transferred to Derriford hospital in Plymouth, which my personal opinion is will be a complete and utter strain on the patient and the facilities at Plymouth.
However, i would guess that this is a fairly small amount of patients that were talking about here, lots of other services have either not been introduced or moved to Plymouth via the backdoor without the press's knowledge over the years!
investment is what RCHT needs, however it is from different pots as to NQY's funding!
Some specialised upper GI CA treatments are being transferred to Derriford hospital in Plymouth, which my personal opinion is will be a complete and utter strain on the patient and the facilities at Plymouth.
However, i would guess that this is a fairly small amount of patients that were talking about here, lots of other services have either not been introduced or moved to Plymouth via the backdoor without the press's knowledge over the years!
investment is what RCHT needs, however it is from different pots as to NQY's funding!
It is incorrect to say the airport would have shut down without SWRDA funding, at least one offer and probably more were made for the entire site from well funded consortiums but of course the council decided to stay at the helm.
An airport is a commercial business and a facility normally best run by businessmen and not kwangos.
My point about Treliske illustrates what a great shame it is such a variety of grants are available in our area that cannot be directed to where they are actually needed. Vast sums are available which have no homes through one funding source whilst other areas struggle??
Immediate funding is available for example to start a new business at Newquay that wouldn't be for the airport per say. The 'owners' as opposed to the 'operators' of the airport need to improve its fanancial position by encouraging new companies to move there that are aviation related but not necessarily offering new air services.. Many airports in this country have no services at all but are still profitable by virtue of what happens on site.
Maintenance, parting out and refurbishment, storage, ancilliary manufacture etc etc all would qualify for employment creation grant funding from the EC.
The suggestion was made for a hub and spoke freight set up but I do not think that would work, what about encouraging transatlatic bizjets to use Newquay as a transit point by using part of the old RAF station as a jet centre?
What is needed now is to evaluate these ideas in detail and develop the airport in context and not to build its long term future on the vaguries of a handful of flights which may or may not operate from there into the future!
An airport is a commercial business and a facility normally best run by businessmen and not kwangos.
My point about Treliske illustrates what a great shame it is such a variety of grants are available in our area that cannot be directed to where they are actually needed. Vast sums are available which have no homes through one funding source whilst other areas struggle??
Immediate funding is available for example to start a new business at Newquay that wouldn't be for the airport per say. The 'owners' as opposed to the 'operators' of the airport need to improve its fanancial position by encouraging new companies to move there that are aviation related but not necessarily offering new air services.. Many airports in this country have no services at all but are still profitable by virtue of what happens on site.
Maintenance, parting out and refurbishment, storage, ancilliary manufacture etc etc all would qualify for employment creation grant funding from the EC.
The suggestion was made for a hub and spoke freight set up but I do not think that would work, what about encouraging transatlatic bizjets to use Newquay as a transit point by using part of the old RAF station as a jet centre?
What is needed now is to evaluate these ideas in detail and develop the airport in context and not to build its long term future on the vaguries of a handful of flights which may or may not operate from there into the future!
I just hope the council appreciates the efforts of the Mod to keep supporting the airfield to December when they would have quite happily walked away now.
I hope the operators get themselves sorted out.
I hope the operators get themselves sorted out.
Rubber Duck - I am delighted to hear that you are close the project, perhaps we have in you the very person needed to get the airport on to a sound financial footing. Good news indeed that you are posting here as it gives us interested parties an inside track as to what is actually happening.
Just for my own interest and as a Cornish ratepayer, which part of my post do you refer to as being wrong and how do those of you running the project now see the future for the airport?
Thanks.
Just for my own interest and as a Cornish ratepayer, which part of my post do you refer to as being wrong and how do those of you running the project now see the future for the airport?
Thanks.
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New Control Tower
Looks as if the 'new' control tower is going up.. taxied passed it last week and took the below photo and it sure just looks like a few MDF Portakabins on-top of each other...
Also.. Correct me if wrong, but wont the controllers have the sun in their eyes all day positioned there..
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Also.. Correct me if wrong, but wont the controllers have the sun in their eyes all day positioned there..
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Thanks for the pic of the twr NQYGuy. As someone who will be working there, and after the summer we have had, quite looking forward to a bit of sun in the eyes. Suspect we can always pull the blinds down if gets too much. 
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Correct me if wrong, but wont the controllers have the sun in their eyes all day positioned there..
Nah, those new fangled plywood blinds will do the trick!!
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An odd move from Jet2.
Their BFS/NQY presumably just competes with FlyBe's summer-only BHD/NQY. Or maybe BE aren't planning to do the BHD again next year.
And their LBA/NQY seems to be two flights a week - hard to see what this adds since ASW already do two flights a DAY.
For what it's worth, I'm not sure NQY needs more airlines that just come in during the summer months. They need to focus on the year-round business that the likes of Ryanair, ASW and Skybus provide.
Their BFS/NQY presumably just competes with FlyBe's summer-only BHD/NQY. Or maybe BE aren't planning to do the BHD again next year.
And their LBA/NQY seems to be two flights a week - hard to see what this adds since ASW already do two flights a DAY.
For what it's worth, I'm not sure NQY needs more airlines that just come in during the summer months. They need to focus on the year-round business that the likes of Ryanair, ASW and Skybus provide.