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757 as stated in the brochure which was the link......
Prices not bad considering your flying from your doorstep not sure there is going to be the special charter from Exeter this year which is a shame. The long slog up to London for me, not a great fan of going all that way on a 757! (CO from Bristol)
Prices not bad considering your flying from your doorstep not sure there is going to be the special charter from Exeter this year which is a shame. The long slog up to London for me, not a great fan of going all that way on a 757! (CO from Bristol)
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NQY's business lounge has been completed and is available to use. Cost £15 entry on a business class ticket. Views over the main apron and runway not the best as viewing area is at ground level.
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anybody know what cargo company will be setting up at NQY and when?
it would make sense if you ask me for at the very least royal mail to fly mail and parcels NQY-EMA instead of trucking to EXT to fly it from there! just my opinion!!
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Find it hard to imagine the benefits of Newquay as a cargo hub though there was some talk of an ambitious plan a while ago but thought that had all gone away. Agree with cornishsimon I have often wondered the same thing myself. Used internet tracking for a couple of parcels delivered by post and the route does some rather strange.
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Take a look at the bit on top gear last week charting the progress of a letter posted on ios, s-61 from ios - penzance, road via truro for sorting to exeter, then EXT-EMA flight and on from there.
If you can still get it its a good watch, shows the network of road and aircraft that royal mail use, just really baffled me as to why they moved it by road to EXT and then upto EMA by air instead of straight NQY-EMA perhaps using skybus or wow as a contractor to carry the mail and parcels ?
If you can still get it its a good watch, shows the network of road and aircraft that royal mail use, just really baffled me as to why they moved it by road to EXT and then upto EMA by air instead of straight NQY-EMA perhaps using skybus or wow as a contractor to carry the mail and parcels ?
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From what i've heard there has been some interest and rumours buzzing around NQY that several cargo companies are interested. Plans are to utilise the existing redundant hangars (404, 402) left over from when the MOD pulled out. An access road from behind one of the old hangars(404) has already been submitted and approved by CCC and is due to start work soon.
Personally I think it makes sense to use NQY as a cargo hub as it the 1st mainland airport that aircraft from the USA come across. Theres plenty of traffic that passes overhead going to and from the states.
Plus there's the added bonus of the runway length that can take anything that's flying at the moment. And there is gallons of space on the south side of the runway. I'm sure the big wigs at NQY would like to rent some of it out and start making some extra ££££££.
Personally I think it makes sense to use NQY as a cargo hub as it the 1st mainland airport that aircraft from the USA come across. Theres plenty of traffic that passes overhead going to and from the states.
Plus there's the added bonus of the runway length that can take anything that's flying at the moment. And there is gallons of space on the south side of the runway. I'm sure the big wigs at NQY would like to rent some of it out and start making some extra ££££££.
Last edited by RSOL; 23rd Jul 2009 at 18:25. Reason: additional info
Just a fer thoughts...
Presumably there is insufficient demand for Royal Mail to operate services from both NQY and EXT to EMA. If the operation was switched to NQY it would surely not save on road transport as mail from east and north Devon would have to be trucked to NQY. I would guess that the business community in and around the Exeter area may produce more mail than that of Cornwall and therefore more trucks may be required (at greater cost) than at present.
There may also be a weather issue involved as well. EXT has a pretty good record weather-wise and accepts far more diversions than it has to turn aircraft away. That would imply the possibility of a more reliable service for Royal Mail than if it operated from NQY.
As well as the Jet2/Channel Express service from EXT to EMA, Titan also operate a B733 nightly to/from STN.
Presumably there is insufficient demand for Royal Mail to operate services from both NQY and EXT to EMA. If the operation was switched to NQY it would surely not save on road transport as mail from east and north Devon would have to be trucked to NQY. I would guess that the business community in and around the Exeter area may produce more mail than that of Cornwall and therefore more trucks may be required (at greater cost) than at present.
There may also be a weather issue involved as well. EXT has a pretty good record weather-wise and accepts far more diversions than it has to turn aircraft away. That would imply the possibility of a more reliable service for Royal Mail than if it operated from NQY.
As well as the Jet2/Channel Express service from EXT to EMA, Titan also operate a B733 nightly to/from STN.
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It used to happen
Twenty years ago the mail went by air, courtesy of a Queen Air or Islander routing NQY-EXT-EMA-EXT.
The idea of a feeder flight from NQY to EXT to link with the B737 for outgoing mail might work but the cost of a return flight at silly o' clock might scupper the idea
The idea of a feeder flight from NQY to EXT to link with the B737 for outgoing mail might work but the cost of a return flight at silly o' clock might scupper the idea
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Hello RSOL
Re Cargo Ops from Newquay. No logic in your idea of landing at Newquay as it is the first port of call across the pond. These aircraft go to hubs that link up with flights from Asia Africa etc. eg Liege, Leipzig East Midlands or Luxemburg. From these hubs smaller aircraft feed other airports in Europe. Newquay could only be at best a feeder airport and not a hub. Just out of interest look up the DHL operation from Leipzig. You would soon realise that Newquay airport is too small and that includes the hangars.
Re Cargo Ops from Newquay. No logic in your idea of landing at Newquay as it is the first port of call across the pond. These aircraft go to hubs that link up with flights from Asia Africa etc. eg Liege, Leipzig East Midlands or Luxemburg. From these hubs smaller aircraft feed other airports in Europe. Newquay could only be at best a feeder airport and not a hub. Just out of interest look up the DHL operation from Leipzig. You would soon realise that Newquay airport is too small and that includes the hangars.
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I never mention anything about NQY becoming a major cargo hub. Any airport that has a cargo company onsite that fly's frieght in and out becomes a hub of some sort. I said that several cargo companies are rumoured to be interested in the disused areas on the south side of the airfield. And as you said, there is not enough space to compete with Leipzig or East Midlands. But, Somebody, somewhere must thing they could make ££££ from NQY as a cargo hub, otherwise there wouldn't be a road being constructed at the moment to accommodate any cargo company going into one of the disused hangars.
I never mention anything about NQY becoming a major cargo hub. Any airport that has a cargo company onsite that fly's frieght in and out becomes a hub of some sort. I said that several cargo companies are rumoured to be interested in the disused areas on the south side of the airfield. And as you said, there is not enough space to compete with Leipzig or East Midlands. But, Somebody, somewhere must thing they could make ££££ from NQY as a cargo hub, otherwise there wouldn't be a road being constructed at the moment to accommodate any cargo company going into one of the disused hangars.
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I see the report is out about last year's debacle - no surprises there then and I wonder how much that cost the ratepayer! A cargo hub is not the way forward for Newquay nor are a handful of extra services by here today gone tomorrow airlines. What is needed is to build an infrastructure based around other aviation and non aviation business but whilst CCC have the desire to do this they do not have the funding or ability within the ranks.
I know all the enthusiasts want to see strings of gleaming jets in the skies but that isn't going to happen and other contributors to maintaining the viability of the site must be found.
I hate the expression "thinking outside the box" but that is what is needed right now.
I know all the enthusiasts want to see strings of gleaming jets in the skies but that isn't going to happen and other contributors to maintaining the viability of the site must be found.
I hate the expression "thinking outside the box" but that is what is needed right now.
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(there's the added bonus of the runway length that can take anything that's flying at the moment)
RSOL,
You talk about cargo operations and St. Mawgan's runway length being able to take anything that is flying at present?
I think you need to go back to the drawing board, cargo aircraft do not carry 'lightweight' passengers, they carry cargo and often up to max payload, a lost kilo is lost revenue, and thereafter live in hope that they can get enough fuel on board, up to MTOW, to make it to their next destination and/or refuelling stop.
I recall occupying much of a night shift once trying to plan a max payload DC8-62 from Europe to the States, our normal refuelling point would have been Gander however eastern Canada was fogbound.
We obviously had to plan to the first point in USA, Bangor, but needed to stop, beforehand, in SNN or PIK and PIK has a significantly longer runway than NQY. The DC8 couldn't get to BGR from SNN and, even using standard flap settings couldn't make it from PIK, I needed to plan non standard flap settings and even then it needed, literally, every inch of PIK's runway to get off the ground and the crew commented so afterwards.
And if max payload aircraft are to take a southerly track across the pond, as we then sometimes looked at options of, then there is Brest airport with a more appropriate runway length than NQY.
RSOL,
You talk about cargo operations and St. Mawgan's runway length being able to take anything that is flying at present?
I think you need to go back to the drawing board, cargo aircraft do not carry 'lightweight' passengers, they carry cargo and often up to max payload, a lost kilo is lost revenue, and thereafter live in hope that they can get enough fuel on board, up to MTOW, to make it to their next destination and/or refuelling stop.
I recall occupying much of a night shift once trying to plan a max payload DC8-62 from Europe to the States, our normal refuelling point would have been Gander however eastern Canada was fogbound.
We obviously had to plan to the first point in USA, Bangor, but needed to stop, beforehand, in SNN or PIK and PIK has a significantly longer runway than NQY. The DC8 couldn't get to BGR from SNN and, even using standard flap settings couldn't make it from PIK, I needed to plan non standard flap settings and even then it needed, literally, every inch of PIK's runway to get off the ground and the crew commented so afterwards.
And if max payload aircraft are to take a southerly track across the pond, as we then sometimes looked at options of, then there is Brest airport with a more appropriate runway length than NQY.
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Q400 flew over the pub at 2345L last night inbound to NQY - weather was fine yesterday - anyone know why? (also note the cabin lights were not dimmed for landing - seems to be a Flybe thing as I've noticed on countless times before at other airports)
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Probably the late running LGW which, I'm told, can often pick up delays during the day (Air Southwaest are no different)
The airport can extend until 24:00 (well ATC anyway) on occasion for this situation
The airport can extend until 24:00 (well ATC anyway) on occasion for this situation
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WEST LAKES - I beg to differ..... the night in question the last SZ flight from LGW was 10mins early and last night 7 mins late landing at NQY.
PHILEAS FOGG - Things are a little more advance these days, I dont think we're talking DC8-62's.....
GROUNDHOG - it's a about maximising your potential and if making NQY some sort of cargo hub boosts revenue by even the smallest amount then it's worth doing not only for Cornwall. It's worth exploring. A biz jet centre would be worth a shot too then get the marketing and tourist boards over to the USA!! Cornwalls main income is tourism and we now have the airport and the space to go forwards.
PHILEAS FOGG - Things are a little more advance these days, I dont think we're talking DC8-62's.....
GROUNDHOG - it's a about maximising your potential and if making NQY some sort of cargo hub boosts revenue by even the smallest amount then it's worth doing not only for Cornwall. It's worth exploring. A biz jet centre would be worth a shot too then get the marketing and tourist boards over to the USA!! Cornwalls main income is tourism and we now have the airport and the space to go forwards.