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yes an odd choice, given Canadian ops history at EDI in the past. one wonders what the sweetner was! Cant see well established daily TS being too fussed, but you can see why they wouldnt want to compete at GLA.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
EDI-YYZ is a trickier animal than GLA though. Worldways and Transat never got beyond a single weekly summer rotation and that got canned recently.
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Since no public money would have been involved in this one, I'm sure she won't ... not that this will necessarily stop one or two of Scotland's local papers indulging in some greetin' of their own 
Seriously though, this is great news. The service seems to be aimed primarily at Canadians visiting Scotland, and a 3 x weekly frequency is certainly better than I would have expected for a new launch. I'm sure most of us wish them luck.
Seriously though, this is great news. The service seems to be aimed primarily at Canadians visiting Scotland, and a 3 x weekly frequency is certainly better than I would have expected for a new launch. I'm sure most of us wish them luck.
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No, because she is the utmost professional and would never lower herself to the pathetic, desperate and bitter levels of some of her colleagues!
That fact aside, hope Air Canada@EDI doesn't struggle against Transat@GLA.
I think we can be sure that Amanda won't go greetin' to the papers !
That fact aside, hope Air Canada@EDI doesn't struggle against Transat@GLA.
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Originally Posted by GlasgowBoy
No, because she is the utmost professional and would never lower herself to the pathetic, desperate and bitter levels of some of her colleagues
Originally Posted by GlasgowBoy
That fact aside, hope Air Canada@EDI doesn't struggle against Transat@GLA.
A good win for EDI, definitely, even for forty odd round trips. Be interesting to see how this outfit develops across Europe, given that Europe is a prime market. EDI-YYZ did ok for Transat, but they needed focus and presumably their market chose GLA, developing from the former PIK routes operated by AC and others. With Star connections (assuming they materialise) there are lots of options.
Be interesting to see how TS respond, especially as more A330s replace the A310s. Wonder if ACR are successful, what they'd replace the 767s with, as the fleet average age is between 18 and 19 years? Mainline 787s before too long?
Hope they prosper, in any case.
Be interesting to see how TS respond, especially as more A330s replace the A310s. Wonder if ACR are successful, what they'd replace the 767s with, as the fleet average age is between 18 and 19 years? Mainline 787s before too long?
Hope they prosper, in any case.
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40 flights?? mmm, so its a peak seasonal route only? Loses the year round high frequency connection appeal except for leisure travellers I suppose, but something rather than nothing.Will be interesting to see if it causes further decreases on the EWR route.The economy/economy plus style service being provided on a high capacity 767 probably best suited to lower cost base high season leisure VFR pax. Cant see 787s being transferred knowing AC, dont think they're as dynamic as the likes of SQ/ Scoot. I like the colour scheme. Hopefully the ageing second hand Hawaiian 767s get a spruce up inside!
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Aren't those Hawaiian B767s some of the youngest passenger B767s flying? Air Canada used to do a lot of this, peak season charters were common until 1990 at PIK and even scheduled all Y B767 capacity was added over the same Jun-Sep period once they moved to GLA. It's more like going back to their roots than the next big thing. Worked well before in a much more competitve environment too, let's give them a chance.
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Fantastic news for EDI. Always thought that AC shouldn`t have stopped services to Scotland. Now all we need to AA to start services to ORD (757), UA to IAH (757)and DL to BOS(757) and we will have retrieved the sevices that Scotland once had in the 80`s and 90`s but this time from EDI.
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To save £300 per person (family of 3) I may still take the short trek along the M8 and go with TS this sumer. (£660 v. £960 for ACR EDI-YYZ-EDI)
However if I was leaving from YYZ it would only cost me £594 for YYZ-EDI-YYZ with ACR
I'm sure someone 'round the table' got their wallet out for this one, public or otherwise.
However if I was leaving from YYZ it would only cost me £594 for YYZ-EDI-YYZ with ACR
I'm sure someone 'round the table' got their wallet out for this one, public or otherwise.
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I'm sure someone 'round the table' got their wallet out for this one, public or otherwise.
they withdrew from GLA when Zoom appeared. Not widely known at the time
but if you delve deeply enough you might discover Zoom received a multi-million taxpayer subsidy to actually set-up their Canadian services from GLA.
I doubt no tax payer money was involved after this experience.
Nice to see AC back in Scotland. Now all we need is AA to ORD and UA to IAH. Infact NW used to serve BOS daily in the 80`s what happened to that route? Prehaps DL to BOS in the future
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While I think this is great news for EDI, I cant help wonder about this routes success as the fares are at silly levels compared to other airlines such as TS from GLA or KLM/AF via AMS & CDG.
I spent sme time playing around on the AC website today and everything is around £300 more than TS. Even looking at onward connections to the likes of YVR or MCO you are still £300 more than competing airlines.
Good luck to AC I'm really pleased to see them back in Scotland.
I spent sme time playing around on the AC website today and everything is around £300 more than TS. Even looking at onward connections to the likes of YVR or MCO you are still £300 more than competing airlines.
Good luck to AC I'm really pleased to see them back in Scotland.
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40 flights?? mmm, so its a peak seasonal route only? Loses the year round high frequency connection appeal except for leisure travellers I suppose
Funnily enough leisure travellers is exactly what this airline is aimed at...
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Infact NW used to serve BOS daily in the 80`s what happened to that route?
Prehaps DL to BOS in the future
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Alas DL tried both ATL and JFK from EDI
Connections via EWR or any of the European hubs were invariably cheaper and had more acceptable timings and connections.
Also, the DL B752s have much less powerful engines than the CO/UA ones so I'm pretty certain that they couldn't carry as much payload from EDI as CO/UA could and that would probably have affected the economics of their JFK route.
Whether DL's flights might have been more successful had the schedules / connections been more attractive is something we may never know but they certainly stopped me (and I expect many other people) from ever using their services from EDI.
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