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Well the cap isnt CAA fault really is it?? more to the point when can CAA break free of DAA and try and make it on their own??
Yes it would be nice to see all the airbridges in place but thats the way it goes, didnt someone mention going back that once they were included in the planning permission that it would cost them more to take them out of it?? not sure on that point.
Looks like a sheltered walkway would be more practical from a LCC point of view, although from an elderly, special needs point of view that is aggrovating for them.
What are the marketing people doing at CAA to attract US airlines. If there was some noise created im sure something would be done about it. Its all political at the end of the day though!
Yes it would be nice to see all the airbridges in place but thats the way it goes, didnt someone mention going back that once they were included in the planning permission that it would cost them more to take them out of it?? not sure on that point.
Looks like a sheltered walkway would be more practical from a LCC point of view, although from an elderly, special needs point of view that is aggrovating for them.
What are the marketing people doing at CAA to attract US airlines. If there was some noise created im sure something would be done about it. Its all political at the end of the day though!
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My information is that Cork are not involved in any live negotiations with any transatlantic carrier.
A member of the CAA has had informal discussions with a very senior executive at Continental but I wouldn't be overly optimistic in the short term.
It will be difficult to compete with SNN even in a post stopover environment given the Mid West Airports tradition of throwing money at airlines and tour operators.
There's an election in the pipeline so why not milk the taxpayer while the going is good. Sure its worked for the past 60 years.
Cork has always been more cautious in its approach.
Neidin's Ryanair prediction is much more likely to happen and I understand that Aerlingus are also evaluating a major expansion out of Cork.
A member of the CAA has had informal discussions with a very senior executive at Continental but I wouldn't be overly optimistic in the short term.
It will be difficult to compete with SNN even in a post stopover environment given the Mid West Airports tradition of throwing money at airlines and tour operators.
There's an election in the pipeline so why not milk the taxpayer while the going is good. Sure its worked for the past 60 years.
Cork has always been more cautious in its approach.
Neidin's Ryanair prediction is much more likely to happen and I understand that Aerlingus are also evaluating a major expansion out of Cork.
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As a person that lives states side along with coutless others each year the trek home becomes more and more annoying. We would pay an extra Euro 40 to fly into ork any day , than send our familes out of their beds at 4 in the morning to collect us. Or bare the hassels of moving ourselves from T4 to T1 in heathrow is a nightmare at any time of the year. Has no one got the guts in cork to stand up to the DAA and start to put the interests of the public in cork before polictics. Its sickening.
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Of course CO pilots are CAT2 rated,99% of the pilots flying into cork are CAT3 rated,barring RE,maybe some of them actually are on other aircraft,cork isnt the only airport these pilots fly into,
can anyone provide Info regarding me hearing on dub tower an aer arann doing a practise Cat2 in dub?????
can anyone provide Info regarding me hearing on dub tower an aer arann doing a practise Cat2 in dub?????
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Jersey Summer 2006
Any one have any ideas on who if any will operate to Jersey this comming summer?????.
In 2005 VLM operated the Fokker 50 on Sundays.
Will they operate again in 2006 or can Jersey look forward to an Aer Arran ATR operation or even Aer Lingus with a bus run????.
In 2005 VLM operated the Fokker 50 on Sundays.
Will they operate again in 2006 or can Jersey look forward to an Aer Arran ATR operation or even Aer Lingus with a bus run????.
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There was talk of a second plane for Cork, but it would mostly operate to Stansted taking over from the Stansted based plane that currently operates the route.
It could operate the current service to Stansted and still have time for another UK rotation in the day. The most obvious destination would be Prestwick. The passengers would mostly come from BA's Glasgow service and RE's Edinburgh service with some new traffic developed. Basically, it would have minimal impact on their existing Shannon operations. East Midlands or Bristol could be possibles as well.
It could operate the current service to Stansted and still have time for another UK rotation in the day. The most obvious destination would be Prestwick. The passengers would mostly come from BA's Glasgow service and RE's Edinburgh service with some new traffic developed. Basically, it would have minimal impact on their existing Shannon operations. East Midlands or Bristol could be possibles as well.
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Operating a flight for staff and their children at Cork Airport. It is anticipated that Ryanair will base a 2nd aircraft at ORK next March. Rumours of major expansion by at least one other airline serving Cork.Watch this space. Not privy to details,
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But where will we get the stands...
Seriously, there are currently three Aer Lingus, three Aer Arann and a Ryanair based at the airport. Add in the Malev and CSA night-stoppers and three (?) cargo planes that are on the ground overnight and the fifteen stands are almost full.
Sure, there are still enough to accommodate a single extra Ryanair and one from the other airline (Aer Lingus?), but they'll need to have extra ones in place by 2007.
Seriously, there are currently three Aer Lingus, three Aer Arann and a Ryanair based at the airport. Add in the Malev and CSA night-stoppers and three (?) cargo planes that are on the ground overnight and the fifteen stands are almost full.
Sure, there are still enough to accommodate a single extra Ryanair and one from the other airline (Aer Lingus?), but they'll need to have extra ones in place by 2007.
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This was posted by Ryan2000 earlier in another thread, which I assume was removed for breaching the rules.
The Aer Lingus website is now showing extra frquencies on some existing routes from the end of June next year
The changes seem to be
Alicante 2->4 per week
Amsterdam 9->11 per week
Malaga 4->6 per week
Nice 2->3 per week
Rome 2->4 per week
Warsaw 3->4 per week
Assuming an extra aircraft, that seems to leave 4 rotations a week available for new routes.
My bets would be on 2x weekly to Riga and either 2x weekly to Krakow or 2x weekly to Madrid.
The Aer Lingus website is now showing extra frquencies on some existing routes from the end of June next year
The changes seem to be
Alicante 2->4 per week
Amsterdam 9->11 per week
Malaga 4->6 per week
Nice 2->3 per week
Rome 2->4 per week
Warsaw 3->4 per week
Assuming an extra aircraft, that seems to leave 4 rotations a week available for new routes.
My bets would be on 2x weekly to Riga and either 2x weekly to Krakow or 2x weekly to Madrid.
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Unfortunately, Aer Lingus don't have enough aircraft to operate the transatlantic service they'd like out of Dublin. If it happens this year, it won't be Aer Lingus.
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Have heard rumours that Monday coming 19 dec Aer lingus will announce their 4th overnighting airbus. A few new routes and also the expansion of their existing routes. The Spanish routes receive further freq and the commencement of either a Las Palmas or Teneife 3 times a week service, also the addition of an uk-p route most likely Birmingham or Manchester. Their Munich service will cease but again rumours suggest a possible Berlin service, although not to sure if that route would do to well out of cork, so at last some good news for cork.
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Take it easy there a minute, lads.
A lot of the EI increased capacity is not yet bookable to buy. Hopefully, it will materialise in time but for now caution is the order of the day. Still feel a bit funny about a fourth A320 at Cork for next summer.
Far more interesting is the FR situation. Ryanair's FR903/4 is ending mid January and is not loaded for the summer so it is just three flights a day Monday to Friday and on Sundays to Stansted for Summer 2006. The big shock will be Saturdays when there will be just two Ryanair flights from Stansted to Cork. The FR901/2 is gone for Saturday mornings so no day trips to London of a Saharda'! The flights operating will be a slightly later FR905/6 and the FR907/8. All of the flights to Cork originate in Stansted.
Ryanair will probably have to stick in an extra Dublin all right but as the situation is now it will require an extra aeroplane from somewhere. Will this mean another aeroplane for Cork?
easyJet appear to be happy enough to continue as their flights are bookable for next Summer. Interestingly, from the end of July (the peak!) they go down to just two flights a day! That is a bit hard to figure out but anyway it is good that easyJet hope to remain on at Cork and I hope they continue to do well.
I would not be worrying too much about America. Every obstacle will be put before the geniuses at Cork to prevent this from ever coming to fruition. Someone above mentioned the slopey runway. That is another good one! Plenty of ammo in the arsenal to keep Cork down.
A lot of the EI increased capacity is not yet bookable to buy. Hopefully, it will materialise in time but for now caution is the order of the day. Still feel a bit funny about a fourth A320 at Cork for next summer.
Far more interesting is the FR situation. Ryanair's FR903/4 is ending mid January and is not loaded for the summer so it is just three flights a day Monday to Friday and on Sundays to Stansted for Summer 2006. The big shock will be Saturdays when there will be just two Ryanair flights from Stansted to Cork. The FR901/2 is gone for Saturday mornings so no day trips to London of a Saharda'! The flights operating will be a slightly later FR905/6 and the FR907/8. All of the flights to Cork originate in Stansted.
Ryanair will probably have to stick in an extra Dublin all right but as the situation is now it will require an extra aeroplane from somewhere. Will this mean another aeroplane for Cork?
easyJet appear to be happy enough to continue as their flights are bookable for next Summer. Interestingly, from the end of July (the peak!) they go down to just two flights a day! That is a bit hard to figure out but anyway it is good that easyJet hope to remain on at Cork and I hope they continue to do well.
I would not be worrying too much about America. Every obstacle will be put before the geniuses at Cork to prevent this from ever coming to fruition. Someone above mentioned the slopey runway. That is another good one! Plenty of ammo in the arsenal to keep Cork down.
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Aer Lingus New Routes ex ORK
New Routes on Aer Lingus website ex ORK:
Berlin (SXF) 3 p/wk from 27/6/05
Birmingham (BHX) 3 p/wk from 20/06/05
Tenneriffe(TFS) 1 p/wk from 1/7/05
Munich appears to be dropped and there are increased frequencies on other routes including Rome (FCO) 4 p/wk
Berlin (SXF) 3 p/wk from 27/6/05
Birmingham (BHX) 3 p/wk from 20/06/05
Tenneriffe(TFS) 1 p/wk from 1/7/05
Munich appears to be dropped and there are increased frequencies on other routes including Rome (FCO) 4 p/wk
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A connection to Berlin from Cork is magnificent news for Cork, Cork people and Cork Airport! A visit to Berlin is super. Was there a few years ago via Buzz ex STN for a wedding in Poland. I recommend the place very highly for a trip.
A once weekly Tenerife is peculiar in some ways. Tenerife has the least amount of IT flights from Cork. Las Palmas and Lanzarote are streets ahead in the popularity stakes? However, I am not in business of knocking it and at just once weekly EI cannot go too wrong.
Birmingham with a 3 per week frequency is the surprise. Cant get my head around that one. What with Mr Roy Keane deciding to play out his football career in Glasgow it would have been an ideal time to put in an EI flight to GLA even at the 3 per week?
The start dates are a little late though for the new routes, end June. Missing out on a lot of the summer?
A once weekly Tenerife is peculiar in some ways. Tenerife has the least amount of IT flights from Cork. Las Palmas and Lanzarote are streets ahead in the popularity stakes? However, I am not in business of knocking it and at just once weekly EI cannot go too wrong.
Birmingham with a 3 per week frequency is the surprise. Cant get my head around that one. What with Mr Roy Keane deciding to play out his football career in Glasgow it would have been an ideal time to put in an EI flight to GLA even at the 3 per week?
The start dates are a little late though for the new routes, end June. Missing out on a lot of the summer?