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A quick update:
Lufthansa Regional will take over the DUS-LCY route from EAE. Flights will be operated by Contactair with an ATR42-500.
Flights times:
LH 4731 OP
London City Apt (LCY), 08:55
Düsseldorf (DUS), 11:30
Non-Stopp / AT5 1:35
LH 4735 OP
London City Apt (LCY), 19:10
Düsseldorf (DUS), 21:55
Non-Stopp / AT5 1:45
And as has been reported in another thread, Euromanx will inaugurate a route to Galway, a destination never been served from LCY before on a scheduled basis. This is the official press release:
"London City Airport is delighted to announce the launch of a new EuroManx service to Galway. Flights start Monday 18 April 2005.
There will be two flights daily Monday to Friday flights depart London City Airport at 09:45 and 20:15, with one flight on Sunday departing 19:50. An Avro RJ70 four engine “Whisper Jet” with a seating capacity of 82 will be used to operate the new service.
The Galway route has been developed with the business traveller in mind, offering the choice to fly directly from the heart of Galway to the heart of London in just over an hour. The schedule allows business travellers to fly direct avoiding an overnight stay."
Lufthansa Regional will take over the DUS-LCY route from EAE. Flights will be operated by Contactair with an ATR42-500.
Flights times:
LH 4731 OP
London City Apt (LCY), 08:55
Düsseldorf (DUS), 11:30
Non-Stopp / AT5 1:35
LH 4735 OP
London City Apt (LCY), 19:10
Düsseldorf (DUS), 21:55
Non-Stopp / AT5 1:45
And as has been reported in another thread, Euromanx will inaugurate a route to Galway, a destination never been served from LCY before on a scheduled basis. This is the official press release:
"London City Airport is delighted to announce the launch of a new EuroManx service to Galway. Flights start Monday 18 April 2005.
There will be two flights daily Monday to Friday flights depart London City Airport at 09:45 and 20:15, with one flight on Sunday departing 19:50. An Avro RJ70 four engine “Whisper Jet” with a seating capacity of 82 will be used to operate the new service.
The Galway route has been developed with the business traveller in mind, offering the choice to fly directly from the heart of Galway to the heart of London in just over an hour. The schedule allows business travellers to fly direct avoiding an overnight stay."
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Does anybody know if the LCY Jetcentre are looking at aquiring more aircraft? As far as i'm aware (although i'd like to be proved wrong), London City is the only airport with a valid AOC & there was some talk 12-16 months ago of LCY Jetcentre aquiring further aircraft to supplement the existing Falcon 900EX (possibly Citations?) due to the popularity of the service.
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They have lost too much moiney on the 900 already. The only reason they started it was because at the time nobody wanted or was able to fly in there.
Since then the table have turned and I think they would have a hard time convincing their shareholders to waste another 20M
Since then the table have turned and I think they would have a hard time convincing their shareholders to waste another 20M
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Some information I picked up over the past month:
- The May issue of Aviation news carries a two page article about LCY:
-- reference is made to the planned inauguration of flights to Copenhagen, Madrid, Milan, Stockholm and Vienna over the next 18 months plus new domestic services to Glasgow and Newcastle. This is in line with the current survey on the LCY website about possible flights to CPH, VIE and STO. I could imagine that over the coming months Austrian Airlines could spare a Fokker 70 for such a route as more Fokker 100 are phased in. Copenhagen might be a route for Cimber Air's ATR42-500. Not so sure who could be in the pipeline for flights to Milan and Madrid as turboprops are out of the question and I don't see any Italian or Spanish carrier with BAe 146s, ER3, F70 or FRJs.
-- The article also has an interesting drawing of the planned expansion in two steps, including in step one additional terminal space to the west, an expansion of the apron to the east and minimal expansion of the jet centre. Stage 2 shows a significantly enlarged jet centre including a dedicated taxiway, an expansion of the terminal to the east, a multi-storey car park next to it and another expansion of the apron over the current water area - plus a lot of new buildings to the southeastern end of the dock area which are difficult to interpret.
-- Finally, the airport's CEO goes on the record that flights to LCY by A318s and A319s are desirable and the type can operate safely from the runway. Current problem is the apron space, but once the problem is rectified after the planned expansion of the apron area, the airport wants to look into a possibility of larger lfights operation into LCY again.
-- As for the ERJ170, the article only says that it is expected to undertake trials in the future.
-- the airport projects 1.9m pax for 2004, but eventually hopes to break through the 2m barrier for the first time if business continues to thrive at the current level.
- In its March 20 issue, The Times reported some interesting 2004 results:
-- operating profits before depreciation rising 14.7% to £16.2m.
-- plans to increase passenger numbers to 3.5m by 2010.
-- in the first two months of this year, traffic grew 18%, bringing the rolling 12-month total above 1.7m for the first time.
-- in 2004, about half the traffic was carried by Swiss International Airlines, VLM and Scotair.
-- VLM carries a third of all traffic into the airport.
-- Edinburgh has replaced Dublin as the most popular destination
- As it appears, the OLT flights to/from Bremen are now to be operated by the smaller Saab 340 as the previously used Saab 2000 is to be used on AF-code share services from BRE to CDG. There is, however, talk about an increased schedule.
- VLM is adding an afternoon depature to its recently introduced AMS route, now offering 4 daily departures
VG 221 STD 14.30
VG 222 STA 17.35
KLM still has seven daily departures.
- Last but no least, I read somewhere - cannot remeber where exactly - that Eastern Airways is taking a closer look at possible operations into LCY and has been linked to a possible new route to NCL.
- The May issue of Aviation news carries a two page article about LCY:
-- reference is made to the planned inauguration of flights to Copenhagen, Madrid, Milan, Stockholm and Vienna over the next 18 months plus new domestic services to Glasgow and Newcastle. This is in line with the current survey on the LCY website about possible flights to CPH, VIE and STO. I could imagine that over the coming months Austrian Airlines could spare a Fokker 70 for such a route as more Fokker 100 are phased in. Copenhagen might be a route for Cimber Air's ATR42-500. Not so sure who could be in the pipeline for flights to Milan and Madrid as turboprops are out of the question and I don't see any Italian or Spanish carrier with BAe 146s, ER3, F70 or FRJs.
-- The article also has an interesting drawing of the planned expansion in two steps, including in step one additional terminal space to the west, an expansion of the apron to the east and minimal expansion of the jet centre. Stage 2 shows a significantly enlarged jet centre including a dedicated taxiway, an expansion of the terminal to the east, a multi-storey car park next to it and another expansion of the apron over the current water area - plus a lot of new buildings to the southeastern end of the dock area which are difficult to interpret.
-- Finally, the airport's CEO goes on the record that flights to LCY by A318s and A319s are desirable and the type can operate safely from the runway. Current problem is the apron space, but once the problem is rectified after the planned expansion of the apron area, the airport wants to look into a possibility of larger lfights operation into LCY again.
-- As for the ERJ170, the article only says that it is expected to undertake trials in the future.
-- the airport projects 1.9m pax for 2004, but eventually hopes to break through the 2m barrier for the first time if business continues to thrive at the current level.
- In its March 20 issue, The Times reported some interesting 2004 results:
-- operating profits before depreciation rising 14.7% to £16.2m.
-- plans to increase passenger numbers to 3.5m by 2010.
-- in the first two months of this year, traffic grew 18%, bringing the rolling 12-month total above 1.7m for the first time.
-- in 2004, about half the traffic was carried by Swiss International Airlines, VLM and Scotair.
-- VLM carries a third of all traffic into the airport.
-- Edinburgh has replaced Dublin as the most popular destination
- As it appears, the OLT flights to/from Bremen are now to be operated by the smaller Saab 340 as the previously used Saab 2000 is to be used on AF-code share services from BRE to CDG. There is, however, talk about an increased schedule.
- VLM is adding an afternoon depature to its recently introduced AMS route, now offering 4 daily departures
VG 221 STD 14.30
VG 222 STA 17.35
KLM still has seven daily departures.
- Last but no least, I read somewhere - cannot remeber where exactly - that Eastern Airways is taking a closer look at possible operations into LCY and has been linked to a possible new route to NCL.
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Do you mean bin it or hand it over to Eastern, as per your speculation on another thread a couple of days back.
Can we really see Eastern operating on a code-share basis with bmi following the previous debacle.
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Do you mean bin it or hand it over to Eastern, as per your speculation on another thread a couple of days back.
Can we really see Eastern operating on a code-share basis with bmi following the previous debacle.
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Any thoughts on ?
If a LCY-BHX-LCY would work given the trains are 1.15 to Euston then a change etc... and 1st class can be very expensive. Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts! ?
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bmi seem to have made a dog's dinner of LBA-LCY from day one, so personally not surprised that they'd be looking to bin it. Too expensive and not promoted properly (either to public and corporate clients). Leeds - London is the busiest cross country rail route in the country and a successful air service into LCY probably needs to capture less than 1% of that market. I don't think bmi had a clue how to go about it.
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i'd be interested to hear if any1 would think a LCY to MXP/LIN service would work...Don't AZ have 10/1 flights a day to LHR from LIn never mind the other carriers......2 of the biggest business orientated cities in Europe surly has to make you some money
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If a LCY-BHX-LCY would work given the trains are 1.15 to Euston then a change etc... and 1st class can be very expensive. Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts! ?
Probaly wouldn't fill an ATR42!
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bmi pulling LBA-LCY
ATI reports that bmi have announced they are withdrawing LBA-LCY. No announcement on the bmi website, but the LBA-LCY timetable there seems not to show any flights after April 26...
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LCY-CPH
Have seen elsewhere that LCY-CPH is to start with the northern winter schedule (31 October). Operated by Sun-Air under the BA franchise. Twice a day Mon to Fri to facilitate business day trips - these show on BA's website already. It is said that there will be a Sunday flight too, but that is not showing on the BA site.
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A German aviation monthly (AERO) reports that Iberia plans to add two BAe 146-200 or Avro RJ85 to its fleet to inaugurate up to four daily flights from LCY to MAD.
As AERO is not exactly famous for accurate reporting, some questions arise:
- anyone heard of such a plan ?
- will the aircraft be operated by Iberia indeed, will it be some kind of wet-lease/ACMI or will the BAe be operated by Air Nostrum ?
- what are the payload penalties for a MAD route ? I seem to remember that there has been talk about flights to Spain before but payload restriction were cited as the main reason for those plans not going ahead.
As AERO is not exactly famous for accurate reporting, some questions arise:
- anyone heard of such a plan ?
- will the aircraft be operated by Iberia indeed, will it be some kind of wet-lease/ACMI or will the BAe be operated by Air Nostrum ?
- what are the payload penalties for a MAD route ? I seem to remember that there has been talk about flights to Spain before but payload restriction were cited as the main reason for those plans not going ahead.
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Now if it's a slightly longer runway you need, there is an airport just to the east of the City that would ideally suit the purpose.
With excellent rail and road links and plenty of capacity.
It's called London Southend!!
I rest my case.
With excellent rail and road links and plenty of capacity.
It's called London Southend!!
I rest my case.