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Old 7th Sep 2004, 06:45
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New development work for LTN

Interesting year ahead with the following confirmed building work taking place at Luton. All work to be finished by June 2005 apart from the first 2 items.

Work starts on dual carriageway into the airport
Work starts on M1 being widened to 4 lanes
2 new piers serving the north and east apron
2 new stands between stand 9L and stand 40
New apron for Harrods
Easyjet tent to be moved to the cargo apron to free up 2 stands on the eastern apron
New large 1st floor security hall above the existing arrivals area to be built
Terminal to get its first excalators.
The opening up of 9000sqm of new airside lounge above the check-in desks.
Existing pier to be connected to the new airside lounge
More shops to open
New immigration hall to be built to the north of the new terminal
New larger International baggage reclaim hall
New larger domestic baggage reclaim hall
Passenger set down area to be modified to allow improved circulation
New hangar for Harrods
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Pretty big amount of work, interesting that the usual suspects have remained quiet. Especially when nothing happens they usually moan like hell.

Thanks for the update LTNman

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Is the duty free lounge remaining where it is then or is that moving onto the second floor above check in? Also, are the baggage reclaim going to be moved or just rennovated?
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Is the duty free lounge remaining where it is then or is that moving onto the second floor above check in? Also, are the baggage reclaim going to be moved or just rennovated?
Don't know to both questions but most of the existing Airside retail and catering area will close and will be converted into offices although the existing departure lounges will remain. I suspect the duty free shop will move as there will only be limited passengers reaching this area in future.

Farrans the builders are now onsite fencing off parts of the block paving infront of the link building by the taxi rank that will gain an extra floor.

Come next June some 24 stands will be accessed via the 3 piers

I have been told that last week Luton handled 2207 aircraft which is 21% higher than the same week last year. I was also told that Luton was busier than Glasgow.

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Fantastic. Sounds good to me! Bring it on!
I hope they can get the taxiway the way they want aswell
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The north Apron has been NOTAMed until June 2005 due to a builder’s village being constructed on it. The 4 stands can now only take aircraft up to 737-800 instead of the 747 due to a lack of depth.

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Grrr

RYR apron then

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2 new stands between stand 9L and stand 40
The face of Luton is rapidly changing but what is happening to the 2 new stands that are under construction at the former airside bendy coach park by Taxiway Echo. The coach park has been dug up and I was expecting new concrete to be poured up to taxiway echo but now someone is building a brick wall between the old coach park and Echo. It’s all very bizarre. Anyone know what is going on?
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Question

Somehow I fail to see the logic behind cramming more stands onto LTN, without expanding/improving the current taxiway layout.
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Patience, LTNman, patience.

Because of the topography, the two stands will be at different levels so there will be more to the foundations that just two ordinary stands.

The concrete removed from the site has been ground down behind the engine run bay so will be reused.
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Somehow I fail to see the logic behind cramming more stands onto LTN, without expanding/improving the current taxiway layout.
Anybody have any official figures (or anything else!) for delays caused by awaiting push-start or taxi since the opening of taxiway E? Presumably things have improved since the introduction of this one way system?

Also, I believe work has started on the new apron for Harrods (next to Hangar 201, the large hangar near the cargo apron). When this opens, I presume Harrods will cease to use the South Stands, anybody kinow what use these will be put to (executive jet parking or airliner parking)?

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Apparently the set-down area outside of the terminal is being moved to the short-term car park for several days. Anybody know why ?. Is this due to building work being carried out inside the terminal ?.
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Grrr

I understand at times it is carnage, cars stopping and loading/unloading in all kinds of chaotic locations!

Great to see so much development at Luton, reminds me of a BAA airport!

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Once a building site, always a building site. Since the late 80's, the builders have been there and what is there to show for it in terms of passenger convenience and improvements
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I just love to walk about the airport looking for what’s new on the building work front. The first signs of something new happening like a new hole appearing or in the case of the new stands by taxiway echo, a brick wall appearing I am left wondering for days on end what the hell is going on. Talking about the new stands has any thought been given to how they are going to be numbered? At the moment we have stands 1R to stands 9L then we have the two new stands, then it continues stand 40R onwards.

When is the easytent going to be shifted? Ryanair is now only weeks away!

The concrete removed from the site has been ground down behind the engine run bay so will be reused.
That's good seeing that it was only down for 12 months

Also, I believe work has started on the new apron for Harrods (next to Hangar 201, the large hangar near the cargo apron). When this opens, I presume Harrods will cease to use the South Stands, anybody kinow what use these will be put to (executive jet parking or airliner parking)?
No Harrods are staying where they are. They are building another hangar next to the existing one but at a right angle. The new apron will front the new hangar.
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TBI shares have leapt 14% so far today & traded some £10m.(usually about 0.25m). Something must be going on.
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LONDON (SHARECAST) - TBI shares hit a three-year high as the airport owner revealed it had received a takeover approach from an unnamed party.

"Discussions are at a preliminary stage and there can be no assurances that agreement can be reached," TBI said in a statement. Volumes had been heavy all day ahead of the announcement.

Management has been under pressure in recent weeks after reports that a group of investors wants the company to sell its assets, which includes Cardiff, Belfast and Luton airports, and return the cash generated to shareholders.

TBI has been trading well recently, as no-frills airlines grow their services, and analysts have put a break-up value of between 80p-110p on the group. The company said this week it was not aware of any moves to force a sale of assets.

Names mentioned as possible bidders include Macquarie Airports of Australia, a private equity bidder or even a MBO to take it private.

Earlier this year German group Hochtief walked away from a deal, while French group Vinci backed out of a bid after 9/11. Neither are believed to be involved in the latest approach.

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Grrr

Airport could triple in size.

Plans drawn up for 30 million passengers.

Dramatic plans for the growth of London Luton Airport to cope with up to 30 million passengers a year are being drawn up by aviation chiefs.

Airport parent company TBI is engaged in top level talks with Luton Borough Council to extend its franchise and allow huge new investment to triple the size of the airport.

It is part of a wider plan, with the company vying to steal the thunder of Stansted Airport, and lure traffic away from their eastern region rivals.

Company chiefs are already trying to persuade Ryanair to quit Stansted and make Luton its main operational base.

But even before the council gives its approval for an extension of its franchise, TBI is making an immediate investment of £30million over two years in a move which will increase the number of passengers from seven million to 12 million.

Opponents of schemes for the expansion have feared huge passenger growth since the Government gave its approval to new runway proposals last year.

But the TBI decision to have active talks with the council now underline its determination to press ahead.

TBI already has a 30-year franchise on the airport agreed with the council, but chief executive Keith Brooks wants an extension of that time scale to justify multi-million pound investments.

A council spokeswoman would only say: "We understand TBI would like to extend the concession but their ambitions to do that have not progressed beyond initial discussions."

There was also reluctance to discuss growth plans at the airport, where it was considered they came under the umbrella of corporate confidentiality.

Expansion during the next two years will almost double the airport's retail and catering space. There will be a new pier, immigration hall, arrivals and onward travel areas, eight gates added and aircraft aprons will be increased by two.

TBI plans for Luton were highlighted in the group's interim financial results published this week, which showed group operating profit up 64 per cent to £24.1m.

Outlining his company's bid to persuade Ryanair to come to Luton, Mr Brooks said: "We have an unblemished record of filling every new Ryanair or easyJet plane launched at Luton. Our infrastructure is every bit as good as Stansted's and our transport links are better. Put it this way, I'd be very surprised if Ryanair stayed there."

In the first six months of last year, passenger numbers at Luton increased by nine per cent to 4.1 million.
18 November 2004

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The two new stands between 9L and 40 will be numbered 60 and 61. The new Harrods Aviation apron will be numbered and called Stand 62.

As an interim measure, the Cargo Apron may be used for some limited passenger aircraft parking where the airline is agreeable to having the passengers coached to/from. Ultimately, an additional six-stand apron will be built east of Taxiway Delta to the north of the Engine Run Bay. However, this will require planning permission.

Rumoured that easyJet/FLS may acquire access to one of the main apron hangars as Britannia Engineering looks like winding down/closing down.

TBI appears to be seriously interesting several carriers (other than Ryanair) some of whom are indeed, looking to transfer from Stansted as Luton is seen as being more favourably located and the likely passenger facilities available from Summer 2005 are believed to be attracting significant interest. Whether any movement apart from RYR is seen prior to Autumn/Winter 2005 remains to be seen.

TBI is also talking to two long-haul carriers who operate Boeing 757 aircraft, one of whom would want to operate from LTN via an East European airport to the Far East; therefore, no payload or operating restrictions from Luton's runway.

Whilst Luton's transport links are certainly almost as good as Stansted's (accepted that the railway staion is a short bus ride away but at least it has trains that take you somewhere useful...), the airport's road system is appalling and is in desperate need of improving if TBI is really hoping to efficiently handle over 12M passengers by 2006.

What is also in desperate need of improving is the local airspace and air traffic control arrangements because it's already at times, unable to cope and causes delay to Luton's departing flights.

Still, TBI seems to have its eye firmly on the ball which for Luton, may mean that its time has finally come...


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The two new stands between 9L and 40 will be numbered 60 and 61. The new Harrods Aviation apron will be numbered and called Stand 62.
A notam also reports that Stand 58 is now situated between stand 56 and hangar 125. There is no logic now to stand locations at LTN.

So how is an aircraft going to get onto stands 60 and 61? There is a new 4ft wall being built that is being in-filled to produce a level stand. There is not enough land between this wall, which must mark the northern edge of the stand and taxiway echo to allow for an aircraft to gain the extra height. Access must be via the north and main aprons which would mean that aircraft would be blocked in by aircraft on stands 40R and 9L

the airport's road system is appalling and is in desperate need of improving if TBI is really hoping to efficiently handle over 12M passengers by 2006.
A new dual carriage way is being started next year which will mean a dual carriageway all the way to the M1 via a flyover on to the A 505
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