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Hello again.
I cannot understand why no-one picks up LBA-BRS: two major financial and commercial centres with a bit of tourism at either end as well.
If easy can carry 20,000-plus each month between BRS and NCL and Air Southwest carries over 4,000 each month between BRS and MAN, surely there is a market awaiting LBA-BRS-LBA.
I think LBA-EXT would be largely tourist-orientated and might work in the summer - perhaps someone could copy Air Southwest's PLH-BRS-MAN and do EXT-BRS-LBA in the summer (with just BRS-LBA in the winter).
I wonder if Air Wales has looked at CWL-BRS-LBA. For some reason Air Wales has ignored the past traditions of Welsh airlines of operating flights that incorporated BRS and CWL.
Hello again.
I cannot understand why no-one picks up LBA-BRS: two major financial and commercial centres with a bit of tourism at either end as well.
If easy can carry 20,000-plus each month between BRS and NCL and Air Southwest carries over 4,000 each month between BRS and MAN, surely there is a market awaiting LBA-BRS-LBA.
I think LBA-EXT would be largely tourist-orientated and might work in the summer - perhaps someone could copy Air Southwest's PLH-BRS-MAN and do EXT-BRS-LBA in the summer (with just BRS-LBA in the winter).
I wonder if Air Wales has looked at CWL-BRS-LBA. For some reason Air Wales has ignored the past traditions of Welsh airlines of operating flights that incorporated BRS and CWL.
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Just seen that Thomson have added FUE for next Summer. Flights are on a Wednesday and land at 1130, depart back to FUE at 1230. I think Airtours will no doubt share this flight with Thomson. I really don't think Airtours will have any based aircraft at LBA next summer. Looking at their website this morning they have only 8 flights a week with timings that are operated by based aircraft.
Mon-REU 0800-1355
Tue-ALC 0820-1450
Wed-FUE 0735-1705
Thu- Nothing
Fri- IBZ 0615-1235 MAH 1340-1940
Sat- ALC 0605-1235 LPA 2050-0620
Sun- AGP 0800-1445
All the other flights are "W's" in from other airports. So i can see the FUE being shared by Airtours and Tui. All the other destinations are Spannish so i think we can expect lots of AEA's and JKK's next year. The remaining flights are,
Tue-PMI 1600-1730 MON MLA- 1820-1910 KMC
Thu-FAO 1315-1420 ??? ACE- 1335-1435 FCA?
Fri- TFS 1200-1300 AEA DLM- 0955-1055 PGT
Sat-PMI 1420-1535 MYT
Mon-REU 0800-1355
Tue-ALC 0820-1450
Wed-FUE 0735-1705
Thu- Nothing
Fri- IBZ 0615-1235 MAH 1340-1940
Sat- ALC 0605-1235 LPA 2050-0620
Sun- AGP 0800-1445
All the other flights are "W's" in from other airports. So i can see the FUE being shared by Airtours and Tui. All the other destinations are Spannish so i think we can expect lots of AEA's and JKK's next year. The remaining flights are,
Tue-PMI 1600-1730 MON MLA- 1820-1910 KMC
Thu-FAO 1315-1420 ??? ACE- 1335-1435 FCA?
Fri- TFS 1200-1300 AEA DLM- 0955-1055 PGT
Sat-PMI 1420-1535 MYT
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God that is an awful charter programme!
I imagine the w ACE will be operated by IWD and the W FAO by FCA as all other years. At least Thomson are picking up some flights.
Are the usual AEA/JKK/KMC flights going to happen on a Saturday and is the PGT DLM Monday flight still going ahead?
I imagine the w ACE will be operated by IWD and the W FAO by FCA as all other years. At least Thomson are picking up some flights.
Are the usual AEA/JKK/KMC flights going to happen on a Saturday and is the PGT DLM Monday flight still going ahead?
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I hope the Monday morning DLM does go ahead cos i'm booked on it next September!!!
On the Airtours website the Thu flight to ACE is showing FCA as the operator, but i think this is a mistake. I think the Sat FAO has been scrapped aswell along with 2 of the Sat AEA's to PMI.This summer Thomson, Airtours, First Choice and Thomas Cook all had separate flights to PMI on Saturdays all with AEA and JKK. Next summer Thomson have nothing to PMI on Sat, Airtours are using MYT and Thomas Cook and First Choice are sharing 1 AEA!
I hope the Monday morning DLM does go ahead cos i'm booked on it next September!!!
On the Airtours website the Thu flight to ACE is showing FCA as the operator, but i think this is a mistake. I think the Sat FAO has been scrapped aswell along with 2 of the Sat AEA's to PMI.This summer Thomson, Airtours, First Choice and Thomas Cook all had separate flights to PMI on Saturdays all with AEA and JKK. Next summer Thomson have nothing to PMI on Sat, Airtours are using MYT and Thomas Cook and First Choice are sharing 1 AEA!
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Folks - I really wouldn't pay much attention to the charter programme at the moment. In the current climate it's such a moving target and with almost 7 months to go before S05 kicks off, it will move a hell of a lot between now and then.
MYT are clearly not going to base an aircraft at Leeds of any description if the sum total of its flying is limited to one return sector per day on certain days of the week.
TUI still haven't decided if they're putting a 738 or a 757 into DSA, so I doubt they are any closer to a decision on Leeds.
30th April 2005 is probably when it might all be sorted (probably)
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MYT are clearly not going to base an aircraft at Leeds of any description if the sum total of its flying is limited to one return sector per day on certain days of the week.
TUI still haven't decided if they're putting a 738 or a 757 into DSA, so I doubt they are any closer to a decision on Leeds.
30th April 2005 is probably when it might all be sorted (probably)
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TUI still haven't decided if they're putting a 738 or a 757 into DSA
TOM are putting in 3 x 733s and 1 x 738.
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Thomsons memo???
Been told a memo has been recieved from Thomsons saying 4 new destinations been added to program for next summer. No other information yet.
Can anyone else shed light on this?
Perhaps they have finally realised people want to fly from Leeds!
Can anyone else shed light on this?
Perhaps they have finally realised people want to fly from Leeds!
Localiser Green, current plan is apparently for two 737-800s to be moved across from Scandinavia to operate the TeesSide and DSA based programmes for Summer 2005. To the best of my knowledge, the DSA programme is two 737s for TOM and one 738 for the IT programme.
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I just can't weigh up what is going on here, its ok saying dont worry about next summer's charter, but I do. And it seems a lot of other people do too.
I would like to go through some reasoning here:-
1. leeds is in a huge catchment area, a lot bigger than anywhere like HUY or even NCL/MME.
2. it is fast becoming one of the biggest financial cities in europe
3. wealth in this area is becoming far more apparent
4. why are charters to paphos , bodrum, rhodes etch made from small operations like MME when LBA dont have them? please dont any MME or HUY bod's get upset, I am only using this as a term of ref
5. does anybody know that this years FUE flight , when it arrived back from its days work, beggered off to bristol to run an overnight rhodes flight for MYT - why did this not operate from lba ? how can this have made any sense ??
6. I get the feeling there is more going on in the background that what anyone of us mere mortals think...
7. Why should I trape over the pennines to go on my hols, why dont people from newcastle have to go to glasgow (its only up the road ?? - tongue in cheek, but same principle)
8. I belive LBA have slipped up with jet2, and have merely been used. it now seems the airport will have to look after jet2, because if by any chance they go what will be left ? - and im not knocking jet2
9. when oh when is anyone going to listen to the voice of the yorkshire people ? - i often carry out a straw poll with folks and time after time people tell me they want to fly from lba. Why cant they ? what is going on, council beurocracy ? (they own it). I just do not know.
10. What about a runway extension - haha, now I am asking too much
11. I am at my wits end as you can probably tell (seems others are too, eg bmifox), all i want is a good healthy charter programme from LBA, why cant I have it.
Well not so much reasoning but enough said, ill go and get my breath back now.
Good debate !
I would like to go through some reasoning here:-
1. leeds is in a huge catchment area, a lot bigger than anywhere like HUY or even NCL/MME.
2. it is fast becoming one of the biggest financial cities in europe
3. wealth in this area is becoming far more apparent
4. why are charters to paphos , bodrum, rhodes etch made from small operations like MME when LBA dont have them? please dont any MME or HUY bod's get upset, I am only using this as a term of ref
5. does anybody know that this years FUE flight , when it arrived back from its days work, beggered off to bristol to run an overnight rhodes flight for MYT - why did this not operate from lba ? how can this have made any sense ??
6. I get the feeling there is more going on in the background that what anyone of us mere mortals think...
7. Why should I trape over the pennines to go on my hols, why dont people from newcastle have to go to glasgow (its only up the road ?? - tongue in cheek, but same principle)
8. I belive LBA have slipped up with jet2, and have merely been used. it now seems the airport will have to look after jet2, because if by any chance they go what will be left ? - and im not knocking jet2
9. when oh when is anyone going to listen to the voice of the yorkshire people ? - i often carry out a straw poll with folks and time after time people tell me they want to fly from lba. Why cant they ? what is going on, council beurocracy ? (they own it). I just do not know.
10. What about a runway extension - haha, now I am asking too much
11. I am at my wits end as you can probably tell (seems others are too, eg bmifox), all i want is a good healthy charter programme from LBA, why cant I have it.
Well not so much reasoning but enough said, ill go and get my breath back now.
Good debate !
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Leodis,
The 4 extra flights from Thomson's...lets see, the FUE is new on Wed lunchtime i think operating with a Spannish airline due arrival times. The FAO wasn't in the 1st editions but it's there now. They also have Lanzarote on the website but no flight details but i don't know if that's just there because they are flying there this winter? The VRN and PSA are still there in the L&M. Can't think of anymore new flights. No doubt marketing will let us know...when they have had their nails done that is
Sorry guys...i couldn't help myself
The 4 extra flights from Thomson's...lets see, the FUE is new on Wed lunchtime i think operating with a Spannish airline due arrival times. The FAO wasn't in the 1st editions but it's there now. They also have Lanzarote on the website but no flight details but i don't know if that's just there because they are flying there this winter? The VRN and PSA are still there in the L&M. Can't think of anymore new flights. No doubt marketing will let us know...when they have had their nails done that is
Sorry guys...i couldn't help myself
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Have heard a rumour today that Jet 2 will start Budapest and Valencia from LBA soon.
Also that Wizz are are eyeing flights to Budapest and Warsaw (if Jet 2 do Budapest can't see the route sustaining two operators).
Also that BMI Baby may leave Manchester with some routes switching to mainline and the rest moving to Leeds.
The latter seems the most bizarre rumour I have heard but stranger things happen.
Also heard BMI Airbus won't arrive in LBA till late Summer and that they intend to keep some of their F100's longer than expected.
Anyone else any imput on these comments.
Also that Wizz are are eyeing flights to Budapest and Warsaw (if Jet 2 do Budapest can't see the route sustaining two operators).
Also that BMI Baby may leave Manchester with some routes switching to mainline and the rest moving to Leeds.
The latter seems the most bizarre rumour I have heard but stranger things happen.
Also heard BMI Airbus won't arrive in LBA till late Summer and that they intend to keep some of their F100's longer than expected.
Anyone else any imput on these comments.
pwalhx,
Interesting stuff. I'm not sure about Budapest but I can certainly see LBA sustaining up to three or four flights a week to Warsaw or Krakow. After all, Leeds does have a large Polish population in the eastern part of the city. I don't knowif there would be any potential for these to be business routes but leisure traffic should be sufficient to attract the likes of Jet2 or the Polish locos (are there any ???).
Interesting stuff. I'm not sure about Budapest but I can certainly see LBA sustaining up to three or four flights a week to Warsaw or Krakow. After all, Leeds does have a large Polish population in the eastern part of the city. I don't knowif there would be any potential for these to be business routes but leisure traffic should be sufficient to attract the likes of Jet2 or the Polish locos (are there any ???).
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I've just seen that the Travelodge hotel at LBA opened on Friday. Does anyone know if the airport's jazz band put in an appearance or had BRS or BFS hot marketing team booked them to celebrate their new direct New York flights with Continental?
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Britannia will be basing the following a/c at LBA, DSA and Teeside.
This is the latest plan:
1x757 at LBA, their are also rummours that another 757 might be brought in at a weekend to cover extra flying.
1x738 at DSA (this a/c is currently on lease to Futura operating as EC-INP) operating the Thomson Holidays Promgramme, and
3x735s or 733s (heard rummours about both) operating the Thomsonfly scheduled programme.
1x738 at MME brought in from Britannia Nordic. A UK 757 will be moved to the Nordic region to cover the loss of this 738.
It also looks like 2x733s will be based at BOH to cover the Thomsonfly scheduled programme.
This is the latest plan:
1x757 at LBA, their are also rummours that another 757 might be brought in at a weekend to cover extra flying.
1x738 at DSA (this a/c is currently on lease to Futura operating as EC-INP) operating the Thomson Holidays Promgramme, and
3x735s or 733s (heard rummours about both) operating the Thomsonfly scheduled programme.
1x738 at MME brought in from Britannia Nordic. A UK 757 will be moved to the Nordic region to cover the loss of this 738.
It also looks like 2x733s will be based at BOH to cover the Thomsonfly scheduled programme.
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The Boeing 757?
I hope Thomson do base one of their 757's at Leeds. They have used a 738 at Leeds once before and it was a year of diversions due operational requirements.
Well apart from the crew being Manchester based tut tut!!
I heard something a while back reguarding them using 2 x 757 but think I heard the same rumour last year also.
Well apart from the crew being Manchester based tut tut!!
I heard something a while back reguarding them using 2 x 757 but think I heard the same rumour last year also.