206 Missing in Kenya
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206 Missing in Kenya
Will somebody PLEASE advise us of what has happened to the missing 206 ? Have heard nothing since yesterday morning , nothing on the Kenya newspaper websites , nothing on pprune .I know the aircraft reg and the pilot , just want to know if it has been found or not.
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It's 5Y-BUG Standard Digital News - Kenya : Missing plane traced, three Swiss nationals dead Photo here - Cessna U206F Stationair, 5Y-BUG, Private
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This seems to be one case where PPRUNE is behind the general press and grapevine...
The plane was 5Y-BUG, found by an enterprising KWS pilot who used Nairobi ATC Radar to pinpoint the wreck on the west side of the Aberdares' southern peak at between 11,000 and 12,000'. The pictures indicate that there is very little left of the aircraft, and no chance of any survivors. It is being reported that the two passengers were mother and daughter (variously English or Swiss depending on the reports) and the pilot was Harro Trempenau (ex Aeroclub Chairman).
Every year we lose yet another person or persons through CFIT. In this day and age of GPS, EGPWS etc, it really should NOT be happening. And the worst thing of all is that we STILL won't learn from this (or any of the other annual fatalities that occur here). Its about time Kenyan aviation woke up and started to pay attention to what is happening and why. And doing something about it. None of these people should have lost their lives...
The plane was 5Y-BUG, found by an enterprising KWS pilot who used Nairobi ATC Radar to pinpoint the wreck on the west side of the Aberdares' southern peak at between 11,000 and 12,000'. The pictures indicate that there is very little left of the aircraft, and no chance of any survivors. It is being reported that the two passengers were mother and daughter (variously English or Swiss depending on the reports) and the pilot was Harro Trempenau (ex Aeroclub Chairman).
Every year we lose yet another person or persons through CFIT. In this day and age of GPS, EGPWS etc, it really should NOT be happening. And the worst thing of all is that we STILL won't learn from this (or any of the other annual fatalities that occur here). Its about time Kenyan aviation woke up and started to pay attention to what is happening and why. And doing something about it. None of these people should have lost their lives...
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Any actual clues as to the reason for the accident ? CFIT in bad weather or mechanical failure ?
I'd have thought that Harro would have been aware about the elevation of the aberdares and his position . A combination of distraction and loss of SA like the SSJ in indonesia ???
I'd have thought that Harro would have been aware about the elevation of the aberdares and his position . A combination of distraction and loss of SA like the SSJ in indonesia ???
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Another aspect of this very sorry story is the issue of ELTs . We are constantly berated by the authorities if we have not had the ELT battery expiry dates prominently displayed ....blah , blah , blah .... But as one old and respected engineer pointed out to me , there is no system/ equipment in Kenya to actually locate an ELT which is surely bleeping after a high impact crash such as this one obviously was . It's a disgrace .
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Since the introduction of the 406 mhz ELT , the system works exclusively by satellite . The info being relayed automatically to the appropriate MCC ( mission Control Center ) which then informs the local ATC / Authorities with all the required informations .
The list of MCC : AEMCC United Arab Emirates
ALMCC Algiers, Algeria
ARMCC El Palomar, Argentina
ASMCC Cape Town, South Africa
AUMCC Canberra, Australia
BRMCC Brasilia, Brazil
CHMCC Santiago, Chile
CMC Moscow, Russia
CMCC Trenton, Canada
CNMCC Beijing, P. R. of China
FMCC Toulouse, France
GRMCC Athens, Greece
HKMCC Hong Kong, China
IDMCC Jakarta, Indonesia
INMCC Bangalore, India
ITMCC Bari, Italy
JAMCC Tokyo, Japan
KOMCC Incheon, Rep. of Korea
NIMCC Abuja, Nigeria
NMCC Bodoe, Norway
PAMCC Karachi, Pakistan
PEMCC Callao, Peru
SAMCC Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
SIMCC Singapore, Singapore
SPMCC Maspalomas, Spain
TAMCC Taipei, ITDC
THMCC Bangkok, Thailand
TRMCC Ankara, Turkey
UKMCC Kinloss, UK
USMCC Suitland, USA
VNMCC Haiphong, Vietnam
They basically cover the entire surface of the globe , including the poles .
Nothing to do with Local/National infrastructures anymore .
The list of MCC : AEMCC United Arab Emirates
ALMCC Algiers, Algeria
ARMCC El Palomar, Argentina
ASMCC Cape Town, South Africa
AUMCC Canberra, Australia
BRMCC Brasilia, Brazil
CHMCC Santiago, Chile
CMC Moscow, Russia
CMCC Trenton, Canada
CNMCC Beijing, P. R. of China
FMCC Toulouse, France
GRMCC Athens, Greece
HKMCC Hong Kong, China
IDMCC Jakarta, Indonesia
INMCC Bangalore, India
ITMCC Bari, Italy
JAMCC Tokyo, Japan
KOMCC Incheon, Rep. of Korea
NIMCC Abuja, Nigeria
NMCC Bodoe, Norway
PAMCC Karachi, Pakistan
PEMCC Callao, Peru
SAMCC Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
SIMCC Singapore, Singapore
SPMCC Maspalomas, Spain
TAMCC Taipei, ITDC
THMCC Bangkok, Thailand
TRMCC Ankara, Turkey
UKMCC Kinloss, UK
USMCC Suitland, USA
VNMCC Haiphong, Vietnam
They basically cover the entire surface of the globe , including the poles .
Nothing to do with Local/National infrastructures anymore .
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As far as search & rescue went, I don't think anyone asked the right person the right question - until the KWS chopper pilot asked ATC. Until then everyone was conducting a visual search based on estimates.
And there are some rumours that the ELT didn't transmit for long enough. But even an ELT won't help if you're flying around hills in cloud.
And there are some rumours that the ELT didn't transmit for long enough. But even an ELT won't help if you're flying around hills in cloud.
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An ELT signal should at least be able to generate a set of coordinates to assist ground search if cloud etc are still present . This whole farce is totally unacceptable in this day and age . Nobody had a clue for two days .
