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Five Contracted Pilots Get The Boot From Sabian Air
Five Pilots Get The Boot From Sabian Air.... Go On A Vandictive Vendetta.... Lets Let The Public Decide....truth Of Fiction?
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Badgers Belong On The Ground Eating Honey
Instructor, 1500 hours, phones Sabian and claims a "slight heavy landing" with a certgain Sabian Air Piper Seneca. Get airborne, notices ripples down the wing and the pilot door not closeing!
Relands the aircraft at the lodge.
Engineers report:
* Wing pulled away 1 inch from fuselage
* 6 bent wing spas
* fuselage structual damaged (hence door doesnt close)
* undercarriage hanging on by one bolt!
Nice pre-flight!
Repair cost to sabian Air R660 000-00 ("Slightly hard landing" hey??)
Relands the aircraft at the lodge.
Engineers report:
* Wing pulled away 1 inch from fuselage
* 6 bent wing spas
* fuselage structual damaged (hence door doesnt close)
* undercarriage hanging on by one bolt!
Nice pre-flight!
Repair cost to sabian Air R660 000-00 ("Slightly hard landing" hey??)
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Ahhhm try five pilots that never got paid by Sabian Air, and were lambasted when they confronted the owner about the leagality of the operation and the AOC.Ho Hum another Sabian sign up
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Badgers Belong On The Ground Eating Honey
The Badger totally TOASTS a 200 hour left hand King Air engine only six months after the "slightly hard landing" of the Seneca.
Cost to company R1 300 000-00! I wonder why this "Badger" no longer has a contract with Sabian???
A definate candidate for any airline wishing to go into bankcrupcy!
Cost to company R1 300 000-00! I wonder why this "Badger" no longer has a contract with Sabian???
A definate candidate for any airline wishing to go into bankcrupcy!
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Desperate Wannabe.....
your name says it all!
The very pilot BAND from a lodge due to SEXUAL HARRASSMENT of two woman (witnesses were present)
The same WANNABEE flies a Baron through a fence. Cost to Sabian Air R380 000-00!
One wonders why your were X'ed??
The very pilot BAND from a lodge due to SEXUAL HARRASSMENT of two woman (witnesses were present)
The same WANNABEE flies a Baron through a fence. Cost to Sabian Air R380 000-00!
One wonders why your were X'ed??
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Desperate Wanabee...
The very individual (who represented Sabian Air) who was BAND from an esteemed lodge.
Claim was S*xual harrassment towards two guests of the lodge in their villa without any form of invite!
To date this wanabee is still band from this lodge....
Proof available in writing!!
Claim was S*xual harrassment towards two guests of the lodge in their villa without any form of invite!
To date this wanabee is still band from this lodge....
Proof available in writing!!
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Desperate Wannabe . . . .
Flies a Baron through a fence at Tiffindales!
COST TO SABIAN AIR R380 000-00.
18 months later, lands a certain sabian Air Queen Air at Mkuze. Nose wheel calpases. He claims it to be an "electrcal failure" and "fault with the manual gear extention system"
Engineers report:
* Its hepls if you switch the generator on during flight.
* When lowering the gear manually, pump the gear to the full locked position.
* Gear was three cycles away from the full locked position hence, nose wheel collapsed
Cost to Sabian Air R1 500 000-00!
COST TO SABIAN AIR R380 000-00.
18 months later, lands a certain sabian Air Queen Air at Mkuze. Nose wheel calpases. He claims it to be an "electrcal failure" and "fault with the manual gear extention system"
Engineers report:
* Its hepls if you switch the generator on during flight.
* When lowering the gear manually, pump the gear to the full locked position.
* Gear was three cycles away from the full locked position hence, nose wheel collapsed
Cost to Sabian Air R1 500 000-00!
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"the Stick Man"
Instrucor, "low time pilot" with more than 1500 hours and ATP behind his belt....
Flies a Baron all the way back from a lodge. On landing engineer asks " Whats a branch doing 8 inches imbedded into the wing??"
Pilot answers, "What branch?"
One must ask the question...how intellegent is an ATP???
Same pilot visists lodge and has a good time with Neo, the company air hostess. Pilot's alchol bill was in excess of R5 600-00.
EXPLAIN THAT ONE!!??
Flies a Baron all the way back from a lodge. On landing engineer asks " Whats a branch doing 8 inches imbedded into the wing??"
Pilot answers, "What branch?"
One must ask the question...how intellegent is an ATP???
Same pilot visists lodge and has a good time with Neo, the company air hostess. Pilot's alchol bill was in excess of R5 600-00.
EXPLAIN THAT ONE!!??
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"chris The Cowboy"
Flies piper Seneca II from Wonderboom to Rand Airport.
Claims to be type rate converted... SURE! Pilot was converted on a Seneca (I) not a Seneca (II)
Instructor writes affidavit to such.
Makes you wonder why YOUR contract was terminated???
Claims to be type rate converted... SURE! Pilot was converted on a Seneca (I) not a Seneca (II)
Instructor writes affidavit to such.
Makes you wonder why YOUR contract was terminated???
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Jimmy The Gong
Rolls Sabian Air Chieftain.
No question an incredibly talented pilot, but beleives that a Chieftain is a Pitts Special! Rolls aircraft breaking every CAA rule. believes that the aircraft limitations to be hogwash. After all, "chieftains can fly inverted..."
No question an incredibly talented pilot, but beleives that a Chieftain is a Pitts Special! Rolls aircraft breaking every CAA rule. believes that the aircraft limitations to be hogwash. After all, "chieftains can fly inverted..."
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Happy Pilot at SABIAN AIR
I would just like to briefly inform every 1 that i am currently imployed by SABIAN AIR and have recieved my salary as promised to me every month!!!!
I have had noooooooooo probs what soeva from the company!!!!!!
Obviously every company has there ups and downs and it was Sabians chance.......
they are pulling through and i promise u that before you know it they will be up in full steam!!!
Everybody must just stop talking KAK about other Companys!!!!!!!!!!it just makes it a bit more tuff 4 the bad mouthed company....
Try and focus on the posative things in live not just on the bad!!
its very easy to bad mouth sum1 but to say even 1 good thing about any person or company is a milion times more diffclt
Sooooo please think twise before u guys post stuff.....
I have had noooooooooo probs what so
eva from the company!!!!!!Obviously every company has there ups and downs and it was Sabians chance.......
they are pulling through and i promise u that before you know it they will be up in full steam!!!
Everybody must just stop talking KAK about other Companys!!!!!!!!!!it just makes it a bit more tuff 4 the bad mouthed company....
Try and focus on the posative things in live not just on the bad!!
its very easy to bad mouth sum1 but to say even 1 good thing about any person or company is a milion times more diffclt
Sooooo please think twise before u guys post stuff.....
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"bad Payment???"
I am led to beleive that the aforementioned pilots were on a contract basis with SABIAN and not employment.....
As a result of their misconduct, their contracts (I believe) were handed to the attorney for further notification.
I would DARE any pilot to provide proof of "non payment" ....
As a result of their misconduct, their contracts (I believe) were handed to the attorney for further notification.
I would DARE any pilot to provide proof of "non payment" ....
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Desperate Wanabee...
The very individual (who represented Sabian Air) who was BAND from an esteemed lodge.
Claim was S*xual harrassment towards two guests of the lodge in their villa without any form of invite!
To date this wanabee is still band from this lodge....
Proof available in writing!!
Desperate Wannabe . . . .
Flies a Baron through a fence at Tiffindales!
COST TO SABIAN AIR R380 000-00.
18 months later, lands a certain sabian Air Queen Air at Mkuze. Nose wheel calpases. He claims it to be an "electrcal failure" and "fault with the manual gear extention system"
Engineers report:
* Its hepls if you switch the generator on during flight.
* When lowering the gear manually, pump the gear to the full locked position.
* Gear was three cycles away from the full locked position hence, nose wheel collapsed
Cost to Sabian Air R1 500 000-00!
The very individual (who represented Sabian Air) who was BAND from an esteemed lodge.
Claim was S*xual harrassment towards two guests of the lodge in their villa without any form of invite!
To date this wanabee is still band from this lodge....
Proof available in writing!!
Desperate Wannabe . . . .
Flies a Baron through a fence at Tiffindales!
COST TO SABIAN AIR R380 000-00.
18 months later, lands a certain sabian Air Queen Air at Mkuze. Nose wheel calpases. He claims it to be an "electrcal failure" and "fault with the manual gear extention system"
Engineers report:
* Its hepls if you switch the generator on during flight.
* When lowering the gear manually, pump the gear to the full locked position.
* Gear was three cycles away from the full locked position hence, nose wheel collapsed
Cost to Sabian Air R1 500 000-00!
Now I would be very careful of accusing people of things they never did, there is a distinct ddifference between facts and wild accusations against someone, as it is I think you have enough law suits coming your way pretty soon, I have never even worked for Sabian, now play nice oh and spare yourself a shred of dignity and at least get someone to teach you how the spell check function works.In all of your 5 posts, I have not once seen you defend any of the so called slander against Sabian, rather just mud slinging at the pilots who had the misfortune of working there.
This is a grown up forum, not a place to hurl abuse at others.
The Badger totally TOASTS a 200 hour left hand King Air engine only six months after the "slightly hard landing" of the Seneca.
Cost to company R1 300 000-00! I wonder why this "Badger" no longer has a contract with Sabian???
A definate candidate for any airline wishing to go into bankcrupcy!
Instructor, 1500 hours, phones Sabian and claims a "slight heavy landing" with a certgain Sabian Air Piper Seneca. Get airborne, notices ripples down the wing and the pilot door not closeing!
Relands the aircraft at the lodge.
Engineers report:
* Wing pulled away 1 inch from fuselage
* 6 bent wing spas
* fuselage structual damaged (hence door doesnt close)
* undercarriage hanging on by one bolt!
Nice pre-flight!
Repair cost to sabian Air R660 000-00 ("Slightly hard landing" hey??)
Cost to company R1 300 000-00! I wonder why this "Badger" no longer has a contract with Sabian???
A definate candidate for any airline wishing to go into bankcrupcy!
Instructor, 1500 hours, phones Sabian and claims a "slight heavy landing" with a certgain Sabian Air Piper Seneca. Get airborne, notices ripples down the wing and the pilot door not closeing!
Relands the aircraft at the lodge.
Engineers report:
* Wing pulled away 1 inch from fuselage
* 6 bent wing spas
* fuselage structual damaged (hence door doesnt close)
* undercarriage hanging on by one bolt!
Nice pre-flight!
Repair cost to sabian Air R660 000-00 ("Slightly hard landing" hey??)
What, and no insurance claim, or operating an air charter operation without insurance.............
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A Wise Man Once Said "there Are Two Sides To A Story"
both sides are equally correct, it just depends on which angle one views it from...
Vendictive and malicious behavior serves of no purpose. My suggestion to the five pilots who are no longer contracted to Sabian Air:
USE YOU TIME TO FURTHER YOUR CAREER RATHER THAN ENTERTAINING BULLS*#T AND TRYING TO FABRICATE STORIES.
YOU ARE THE VERY REASON WHY PILOTS DO NOT GET THE RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE AS YOU ACT LIKE COMMON HOUSEWIVES WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN GOSSIP YOUR CAREERS AWAY....
Vendictive and malicious behavior serves of no purpose. My suggestion to the five pilots who are no longer contracted to Sabian Air:
USE YOU TIME TO FURTHER YOUR CAREER RATHER THAN ENTERTAINING BULLS*#T AND TRYING TO FABRICATE STORIES.
YOU ARE THE VERY REASON WHY PILOTS DO NOT GET THE RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE AS YOU ACT LIKE COMMON HOUSEWIVES WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN GOSSIP YOUR CAREERS AWAY....
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TO THE SABIAN AIR CROWD
None of us are nearly as stupid as you seem to think! I asked for info before placing an aircraft at your disposal and some long-time ppruners have given me every reason not to trust you and to have nothing to do with you at all. I have spoken to "Jimmy the Gong" and he has told me even more scary stories of you including you sending heavies around to people who were demanding payment for services they had already rendered to you. Also a list to long to publish of just some of your dealings which I obtained from a source who was previously close to you. Too late if you now want to stop the spreading of this list. I have it and the proof. Desperate Wannabee I know did not work for you and has never worked for you, so your "sexual harrasment" charge holds no water whatsoever. It is just typical of the depths you are prepared to plumb to get your way! Spoke to the Engen guys at Rand today. Seems Sabian and yourself cannot get fuel. The guys tell me you are now filling up on some-one else's credit card. I confirmed it is not Sabian or Selkon on this credit card. Probably a stolen card? Or are you scamming someone else now? What about your Seneca that was denied start-up by the tower today and instructed to query why it was grounded at airport management? I heard this over the radio myself but no doubt I am a liar too or my ears deceive me? Whatever. Then I noticed your hangar has been locked back and front the whole day with all the aircraft inside. Noticed a car, registered as Sabian3, drove up on airside of hangar and side door was opened from inside by a youngish guy. Little later both these individuals left with two cars. After 17H00 noticed your Sabian1 registered Merc standing at Engen, young guy paying for fuel and Kingair 200 standing outside the now open hangar with rudder flapping in the wind. Noticed Baron, Seneca and Chieftain standing inside hangar. Apparently bank wants to re-possess the Baron for non-payment and the Seneca has already been attached by the sheriff of the court. Got these details from the sheriff and from the bank, but no doubt their perspective is also wrong and you have done nothing wrong? Please stop insulting the intelligence of everyone on pprune by posting the drivel you have been posting. You have fooled no-one! The intelligent thing would've been to come to re-payment arrangements with those you owe instead of the route you have chosen to follow. As for the people still working for you, stick around long enough and you are sure to get burned. Seems there are now two types of people concerned, those who have been burned by Sabian and those who are still going to be burned by Sabian.
None of us are nearly as stupid as you seem to think! I asked for info before placing an aircraft at your disposal and some long-time ppruners have given me every reason not to trust you and to have nothing to do with you at all. I have spoken to "Jimmy the Gong" and he has told me even more scary stories of you including you sending heavies around to people who were demanding payment for services they had already rendered to you. Also a list to long to publish of just some of your dealings which I obtained from a source who was previously close to you. Too late if you now want to stop the spreading of this list. I have it and the proof. Desperate Wannabee I know did not work for you and has never worked for you, so your "sexual harrasment" charge holds no water whatsoever. It is just typical of the depths you are prepared to plumb to get your way! Spoke to the Engen guys at Rand today. Seems Sabian and yourself cannot get fuel. The guys tell me you are now filling up on some-one else's credit card. I confirmed it is not Sabian or Selkon on this credit card. Probably a stolen card? Or are you scamming someone else now? What about your Seneca that was denied start-up by the tower today and instructed to query why it was grounded at airport management? I heard this over the radio myself but no doubt I am a liar too or my ears deceive me? Whatever. Then I noticed your hangar has been locked back and front the whole day with all the aircraft inside. Noticed a car, registered as Sabian3, drove up on airside of hangar and side door was opened from inside by a youngish guy. Little later both these individuals left with two cars. After 17H00 noticed your Sabian1 registered Merc standing at Engen, young guy paying for fuel and Kingair 200 standing outside the now open hangar with rudder flapping in the wind. Noticed Baron, Seneca and Chieftain standing inside hangar. Apparently bank wants to re-possess the Baron for non-payment and the Seneca has already been attached by the sheriff of the court. Got these details from the sheriff and from the bank, but no doubt their perspective is also wrong and you have done nothing wrong? Please stop insulting the intelligence of everyone on pprune by posting the drivel you have been posting. You have fooled no-one! The intelligent thing would've been to come to re-payment arrangements with those you owe instead of the route you have chosen to follow. As for the people still working for you, stick around long enough and you are sure to get burned. Seems there are now two types of people concerned, those who have been burned by Sabian and those who are still going to be burned by Sabian.
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In case I get called a liar by Sabian&Co, the following is the link with a recording between Rand ATC and the Seneca pilot this morning where Sabian find out they cannot depart Rand.
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/fa...2007-0700Z.mp3
Also, when Sabian are using a PPL (Silkon) with four bars on his shirt to fly paying pax around then CAA had better step in! This same PPL is also as blind as a bat so wonder how he passes his PPL medical? Plenty more people coming forward who PM me even more details of this shady character!
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/fa...2007-0700Z.mp3
Also, when Sabian are using a PPL (Silkon) with four bars on his shirt to fly paying pax around then CAA had better step in! This same PPL is also as blind as a bat so wonder how he passes his PPL medical? Plenty more people coming forward who PM me even more details of this shady character!
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Where there is smoke there is fire, and while some of the comments posted here seem like low blows... that would only hold true if they were false... surely?
Question though... (not mongering
)... didnt NAC do the conversion from square windows to round? Surely THEY would have gotten approval for the mods?
Question though... (not mongering
)... didnt NAC do the conversion from square windows to round? Surely THEY would have gotten approval for the mods?