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Hi There Guys!
I feel sorry for all the people that have not been paid, and for all the nonsense going on. However I can assure all that all flights conducted at this stage are legal flights, they are flown under Part 135 with experienced crews under an AOC. All aircraft are attached to this AOC and All legal documents are filed in the prescribed manner. The King Air 200 is now maintained by NAC. Fuel bills are all fully paid up, and all personnel are doing their darndest best to be professional at all levels.
I just wanted to clarify these facts to all as I fly for them on an Ad-hoc Basis and am a real stickler for Legalities.
I have been paid up to date for all flights that I have done for Sabian.
Aginnintonnixadaykeepsadoctaaway!!
I feel sorry for all the people that have not been paid, and for all the nonsense going on. However I can assure all that all flights conducted at this stage are legal flights, they are flown under Part 135 with experienced crews under an AOC. All aircraft are attached to this AOC and All legal documents are filed in the prescribed manner. The King Air 200 is now maintained by NAC. Fuel bills are all fully paid up, and all personnel are doing their darndest best to be professional at all levels.
I just wanted to clarify these facts to all as I fly for them on an Ad-hoc Basis and am a real stickler for Legalities.
I have been paid up to date for all flights that I have done for Sabian.
Aginnintonnixadaykeepsadoctaaway!!
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Owner is Std 8 grad, dyslexic, bi-polar and is on steroids. A combination of note! He has a fast fist and prefers to sort disputes out that way. His fiance (Std 6 graduate ex waitress) runs the show along with her father(who stole owners Porsche rims the other day and got a broken jaw as sentence), her mother who is also bi-polar and the son who is dyslexic and being trained by owner to fly.
Owner is a compulsive liar - listen carefully and you will pick them all up behind that arrogant sales pitch. Has ben disowned by almost entire family due to "dodgy" busines associates in past.
Little girls in company are showpieces - there for his ego (as is everything including the Ferrari and Porsche and mansion in Bassonia Estate). He needs these to compensate for lack of assets in pants!
Be careful of him.
Owner is a compulsive liar - listen carefully and you will pick them all up behind that arrogant sales pitch. Has ben disowned by almost entire family due to "dodgy" busines associates in past.
Little girls in company are showpieces - there for his ego (as is everything including the Ferrari and Porsche and mansion in Bassonia Estate). He needs these to compensate for lack of assets in pants!
Be careful of him.
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Brutality
its obvious that there is a personal vendetta against the owner of sabian air.
be this as it may, sabian air as a company has possibly re-defined aviation from the "scanky days of yesterday" when aircraft looked like CRAP, and i was ashamed to have my passengers travel in them, whereas today, sophistication and elegence now lead the way.
personal vendettas aside, be the rumours true or false, this guy knows what he's doing.
be this as it may, sabian air as a company has possibly re-defined aviation from the "scanky days of yesterday" when aircraft looked like CRAP, and i was ashamed to have my passengers travel in them, whereas today, sophistication and elegence now lead the way.
personal vendettas aside, be the rumours true or false, this guy knows what he's doing.
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So How Wealthy Is Alan Selkon??
I worked alongside this man for 4 years and have been priveleged to his financials. This is one f*#cking wealthy individual!!! 
holds his cash close and a miser at that.
Court cases? you will never win one! I give him credit, he's fair, but one ruthless son of a b*#ch if you try to double cross him..... !!!!
Bribes? Never once.
holds his cash close and a miser at that. Court cases? you will never win one! I give him credit, he's fair, but one ruthless son of a b*#ch if you try to double cross him..... !!!!
Bribes? Never once.
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Suspicious number of probationary ppruner's all singing from the same sheet!
Anyone else notice the strange fact/similarity how they all seem to be unable to spell or use the spell-checker function and all reside somewhere on the East Rand? Having never worked for Selkon and refusing to have any dealings with him, I certainly do not have any vendetta against the man. Just dont like the way he seems to think he can crook others and operate outside of the law with impunity. But I guess we need not post anymore on this thread. Just sit back and watch him continue to sing his own praises!
Anyone else notice the strange fact/similarity how they all seem to be unable to spell or use the spell-checker function and all reside somewhere on the East Rand? Having never worked for Selkon and refusing to have any dealings with him, I certainly do not have any vendetta against the man. Just dont like the way he seems to think he can crook others and operate outside of the law with impunity. But I guess we need not post anymore on this thread. Just sit back and watch him continue to sing his own praises!
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This thread has gotten particularly nasty and personal. While its one thing commenting from personal experience, and rumours, to categorically state that someone is bi-polar etc isnt right. Very few are firstly qualified to state this and secondly, maybe we all are depening on which way you look at it.
Another thing... to slate someone on the basis of education is mud slinging and ridiculous. I know of very wealthy succesful people who are not formally educated and really nice people. Perhaps we should stick to facts here, and personal experience rather than making cheap attempts to make someone sound as bad as possible... if I have a doctorate does it make me better than many others on this forum? (I dont by the way)...
Another thing... to slate someone on the basis of education is mud slinging and ridiculous. I know of very wealthy succesful people who are not formally educated and really nice people. Perhaps we should stick to facts here, and personal experience rather than making cheap attempts to make someone sound as bad as possible... if I have a doctorate does it make me better than many others on this forum? (I dont by the way)...
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Having come across this site and having had to agree to the forum's rules e.g. "lack of respect", "think before you post", "Do not make this a personal issue between you and another member", I wonder what has happened to the dignity of the "PROFESSIONAL" PILOTS SITE???? All the postings are nothing more than a personal vendetta against an individual.
Grow up guys - surely there are correct channels you can direct your grievances to? It is incomprehensible that this forum is allowed to be used to vilify an individual and as for PROFESSIONAL PILOTS - makes one wonder about the industry as a whole - scary to think that these individuals actually take our life in their hands when they fly us!
Matthew 7 vs 1 states "Judge not, that you be not judged, for with what judgement you judge, you will be judged and the measure you use it will be measured back to you".
It appears that Jamex started this vindictive vendetta for a specific purpose - enough is enough, stop the rot please.
Grow up guys - surely there are correct channels you can direct your grievances to? It is incomprehensible that this forum is allowed to be used to vilify an individual and as for PROFESSIONAL PILOTS - makes one wonder about the industry as a whole - scary to think that these individuals actually take our life in their hands when they fly us!
Matthew 7 vs 1 states "Judge not, that you be not judged, for with what judgement you judge, you will be judged and the measure you use it will be measured back to you".
It appears that Jamex started this vindictive vendetta for a specific purpose - enough is enough, stop the rot please.
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Piper Seneca
I Did Some Research About The "attachment Order" On A Certain Sabian Air Piper Seneca............
I Saw All The Legal Documents.
The "attachment" Was Illegal And Had Nothing To Do With Sabian Air.
I Know That Sabian Air Is Reserving Their Rights To Proceed With Legal Action Against Rand Airport For Publically Transmitting The So Called "grounding" Of The Aircraft And Broadcasting This On Rand's Frequency.
I Saw All The Legal Documents.
The "attachment" Was Illegal And Had Nothing To Do With Sabian Air.
I Know That Sabian Air Is Reserving Their Rights To Proceed With Legal Action Against Rand Airport For Publically Transmitting The So Called "grounding" Of The Aircraft And Broadcasting This On Rand's Frequency.
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Alfred R
Oh give it a rest......
I personaly know the individual who had the Seneca attached for monies owing to him for work done on the Seneca that were never paid......you were saying?
It is called a R-A-D-I-O, that is how they operate, on a frequency, anyone on that frequency can hear the transmission, are they meant to call you on a special Sabian enctyped secure channel?
IBTL
Oh give it a rest......
The "attachment" Was Illegal And Had Nothing To Do With Sabian Air.
I Know That Sabian Air Is Reserving Their Rights To Proceed With Legal Action Against Rand Airport For Publically Transmitting The So Called "grounding" Of The Aircraft And Broadcasting This On Rand's Frequency
IBTL
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Agreed
At what point will the moderators step in and clean this appalling mess up?
This amounts to no more than low level slander. Pathetic.
The spel chek is the "ABC" wiff the tik unda on the top rite. Give it a try sometime lads.
This amounts to no more than low level slander. Pathetic.
The spel chek is the "ABC" wiff the tik unda on the top rite. Give it a try sometime lads.
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PETTY crap!!
You boys are all being so petty and outright childish!
I totally agree with "complete stranger" : I cant beleive you are the very "pilots" (you are better gossipers) that people intrust their lives with!
Dont you guys have anything better to do? (Oh, I remember, you all think you know so much...... why dont you get your facts straight before you make idiots of yourselves?
oh, sorry, you are already, so what the hell!!??
I totally agree with "complete stranger" : I cant beleive you are the very "pilots" (you are better gossipers) that people intrust their lives with!
Dont you guys have anything better to do? (Oh, I remember, you all think you know so much...... why dont you get your facts straight before you make idiots of yourselves?
oh, sorry, you are already, so what the hell!!??
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IMHO I see nothing wrong with this thread.
The company has been named and shamed and some people
who seem to be in the "know," have just been kind enough
to warn us all in dealing with this company. Well done
Secondly it seems that most of the praisers for this company
are from the probationary type, coincedence, who knows?
But it does seem that Mr Sabian needs to speak up and explain himself
The company has been named and shamed and some people
who seem to be in the "know," have just been kind enough
to warn us all in dealing with this company. Well done
Secondly it seems that most of the praisers for this company
are from the probationary type, coincedence, who knows?
But it does seem that Mr Sabian needs to speak up and explain himself
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It is called a R-A-D-I-O, that is how they operate, on a frequency, anyone on that frequency can hear the transmission, are they meant to call you on a special Sabian enctyped secure channel?
You can confirm with ATC that it is illegal to hold an aircraft back from a flight unless the sheriff has handed the ATSU the attachment order. This apparently did not happen in this case. (I confirmed with with an area controller)
This is my last post, as I am ashamed to be classed as a "professinal pilot" and be associated with the people on this forum. I have not taken sides in this argument but have noticed that anyone not conforming to the "BAD MOUTH" clan, get slated.
Ashamed pilot signing off!
You can confirm with ATC that it is illegal to hold an aircraft back from a flight unless the sheriff has handed the ATSU the attachment order. This apparently did not happen in this case. (I confirmed with with an area controller)
This is my last post, as I am ashamed to be classed as a "professinal pilot" and be associated with the people on this forum. I have not taken sides in this argument but have noticed that anyone not conforming to the "BAD MOUTH" clan, get slated.
Ashamed pilot signing off!
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Sorry Commander 690, it was not aimed at you in any way, it is just so hilarious how the bullsh*t is endlessly forthcoming, last time I heard, he was spinning yarns about how he and his big mate Richard (Branson) were going into a venture together, and they were going to fly 747's all over the place.
I know he did call Pine to discuss bussiness, but when Pine did a bit of checking, well thats as far as it got.
No disrespect intended towards you.
I know he did call Pine to discuss bussiness, but when Pine did a bit of checking, well thats as far as it got.
No disrespect intended towards you.
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Money owing
I do not agree about the personal education bashing, but I think that when some people have been shafted so far up the naught, they lose the plot and post.
For all those that are protecting Sabian, spare a thought for Pietermaritzburg Aero club..
This idiot sent down a couple of aircrafton a charter, filled them all up, paid with a cheque, AND GEUSS WHAT....IT BOUNCED.
Yes, I know there must surely be an explanation as to why they cannot settle the account with the Aero club, but remember, it was not yesterday that this happened, so the excuse goes out the window.
SO BESIDES THE PREVIOUS PILOTS NOT BEING PAID, NOR HAS PMB AERO CLUB BEEN PAID....AND THAT WAS OF TWO DAYS AGO.
Goffe.
For all those that are protecting Sabian, spare a thought for Pietermaritzburg Aero club..
This idiot sent down a couple of aircrafton a charter, filled them all up, paid with a cheque, AND GEUSS WHAT....IT BOUNCED.
Yes, I know there must surely be an explanation as to why they cannot settle the account with the Aero club, but remember, it was not yesterday that this happened, so the excuse goes out the window.
SO BESIDES THE PREVIOUS PILOTS NOT BEING PAID, NOR HAS PMB AERO CLUB BEEN PAID....AND THAT WAS OF TWO DAYS AGO.
Goffe.