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Congratulations Bellview.Used you guys recently to Accra and I noticed quite an improvement on departure from LOS,and the the check in counter is being handled even better.
VK I am getting even more dissapointed,since I was returning from Accra,and the aircraft which was supposed to land between 1500pm and 1530pm Acc time,actually arrived at about 1710pm.
This was thursday last week.
No one in Accra gave an explanation for the delay,and it was only after we boarded around two hours later,and were actually enroute to Los that the captain announced that the delay was due to a presidential flight departing LOS.
Totally incompetent,and total lack of customer care.
VK however must be congratulated for improvements on ABV-LOS shuttle service.Tables in the aircraft was wonky,but the seats were comfortable.This was business class I hasten to add.
VK I am getting even more dissapointed,since I was returning from Accra,and the aircraft which was supposed to land between 1500pm and 1530pm Acc time,actually arrived at about 1710pm.
This was thursday last week.
No one in Accra gave an explanation for the delay,and it was only after we boarded around two hours later,and were actually enroute to Los that the captain announced that the delay was due to a presidential flight departing LOS.
Totally incompetent,and total lack of customer care.
VK however must be congratulated for improvements on ABV-LOS shuttle service.Tables in the aircraft was wonky,but the seats were comfortable.This was business class I hasten to add.
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Originally Posted by LongJohnThomas
had they had the same chances as Vk, maybe they would be one of the african BIG PLAYERS now.
ljt need to remind you that this was an open bid for the flag carrier licence,that virgin won.
where was blue tail during the bid?
flag carrier comes with some perks which believe it or not vna has been unable to redeem due govt bureacracy so they are enjoying just what you at blue tail enjoy ie NOTHING!
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18L,
I will try as much as possible to keep this very brief.
I need to start by educating you on one thing. I gain nothing as you put it, from actually hoping that a nigerian owned carrier has the oppurtunities to do what Vk does and have the few advantages that come with being the flag bearer. And may i remind you that we all knew that Vk would get the bid, had B3 ever had a chance, they would have been in before South African.
If you are frozen with the idea that i work for them or i really care what happens? Think again!
I have the right to air an opinion, if you don't like it, good for you! But i think it prudent to be more tactful with your comments directed at individuals.
You need to rethink your approach to things and gaurd your comments, you may work for Vk, but i assure you, i don't give a toss whether or not you enjoy it! We are here to come up with ideas to better us all and not to put others down, keep that in mind.
As for BLUE TAIL, i wish you all the luck there is and better days.
Keep the nigerian flying!!!!!!
I will try as much as possible to keep this very brief.
I need to start by educating you on one thing. I gain nothing as you put it, from actually hoping that a nigerian owned carrier has the oppurtunities to do what Vk does and have the few advantages that come with being the flag bearer. And may i remind you that we all knew that Vk would get the bid, had B3 ever had a chance, they would have been in before South African.
If you are frozen with the idea that i work for them or i really care what happens? Think again!
I have the right to air an opinion, if you don't like it, good for you! But i think it prudent to be more tactful with your comments directed at individuals.
You need to rethink your approach to things and gaurd your comments, you may work for Vk, but i assure you, i don't give a toss whether or not you enjoy it! We are here to come up with ideas to better us all and not to put others down, keep that in mind.
As for BLUE TAIL, i wish you all the luck there is and better days.
Keep the nigerian flying!!!!!!
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Try not to personalise issues,this is an open discussion so focus,on the facts.I was turned down at the assesment stage of vk interviews but still remain unbiased.
Lets face it,if blue tail tail,nicon irs,chachangi et al had performed well over the years there would be no need for a vk,and i doubt vk would have been interseted in the nigerian market.
I have been in orange tail for a while now,and they also are basically capitalising on the screw ups of the others.
I Am yet to meet any one who has anything positive to say about bluetail and the airport is littered with people who have been victims of bluetails horrendus work ethics.
How many people have left vk or aero for bluetail to further thier profession?
Now how many have done vice versea?
so my friend dont blame vk, blame our people who put thier selfish ambitons b/4 anything else.
THEY HAVE HAD ARE HAVING AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THIER CHANCES BUT SCREW UP.
Try not to personalise issues,this is an open discussion so focus,on the facts.I was turned down at the assesment stage of vk interviews but still remain unbiased.
Lets face it,if blue tail tail,nicon irs,chachangi et al had performed well over the years there would be no need for a vk,and i doubt vk would have been interseted in the nigerian market.
I have been in orange tail for a while now,and they also are basically capitalising on the screw ups of the others.
I Am yet to meet any one who has anything positive to say about bluetail and the airport is littered with people who have been victims of bluetails horrendus work ethics.
How many people have left vk or aero for bluetail to further thier profession?
Now how many have done vice versea?
so my friend dont blame vk, blame our people who put thier selfish ambitons b/4 anything else.
THEY HAVE HAD ARE HAVING AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THIER CHANCES BUT SCREW UP.
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18L,
I am sorry if you took what i said wrongly.
I agree with you on your points and valid, they are.
Even though bluetail has had years of inadequate professional conduct, to put it lightly, i thought, for a change, it might be wise to encourage them even if it's just because they are nigerian owned for a change.
The screw ups that bluetail have been through might just give them a heads up to start out on a new page.
If not, well, like i said before, i wish them luck!
Cheers mate, keep it real.
N.B. I have nothing whatsoever against Vk and never will, they saw an oppurunity and took it, good on them!
I only wish from the back of my heart that nigerians could just do what they do.
I know we are capable, just not quite determined enough yet! Pity!
I am sorry if you took what i said wrongly.
I agree with you on your points and valid, they are.
Even though bluetail has had years of inadequate professional conduct, to put it lightly, i thought, for a change, it might be wise to encourage them even if it's just because they are nigerian owned for a change.
The screw ups that bluetail have been through might just give them a heads up to start out on a new page.
If not, well, like i said before, i wish them luck!
Cheers mate, keep it real.
N.B. I have nothing whatsoever against Vk and never will, they saw an oppurunity and took it, good on them!
I only wish from the back of my heart that nigerians could just do what they do.
I know we are capable, just not quite determined enough yet! Pity!
Hey LJT you shouldn't despair, VK is mainly Nigerian now and it continues to keep the high standards that were put in place from the outset. OK the A340 fleet has some way to go as far as manning the flight deck with Nigerian pilots is concerned, but that was being addressed before I left. The 737 fleet is very well populated by West African pilots.
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SN,
I am not in despair, just worried thats all.
Vk before you left? Wow, thats a revelation!!????
I see you happen to know quite a bit about them, maybe you should give me a job there if it pays well?!
Anyhow, its all good.
Bluetail needs prayers and they certainly have mine, so sad to see that Vk had to go over there to get it right, we could have done it ourselves with a little commitment.
I hear they have stopped nigerians from getting on the A340, is that true?
The 737 is an old type, nothing to bargain with on the outside market considering the fact that the guys were not given JAR licences like those on the 340.
Anyway, thats a topic for another day.
Keep it real.
I am not in despair, just worried thats all.
Vk before you left? Wow, thats a revelation!!????
I see you happen to know quite a bit about them, maybe you should give me a job there if it pays well?!
Anyhow, its all good.
Bluetail needs prayers and they certainly have mine, so sad to see that Vk had to go over there to get it right, we could have done it ourselves with a little commitment.
I hear they have stopped nigerians from getting on the A340, is that true?
The 737 is an old type, nothing to bargain with on the outside market considering the fact that the guys were not given JAR licences like those on the 340.
Anyway, thats a topic for another day.
Keep it real.
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Bellview Airlines
According to some info, Bellview seems to have returned one of its 767-200ER to GECAS? This means they now have one plane with which to operate both JNB and possibly LON...
It is recalled that the CEO announced last June in a Paris IATA seminar that Bellview would add A320-200s to replace its ageing 737-200s, starting in Q4 06. A "new management" and a "reinvigorated Bellview" were also promised. Any news about this?
ZAZOO come out of the bushes!
It is recalled that the CEO announced last June in a Paris IATA seminar that Bellview would add A320-200s to replace its ageing 737-200s, starting in Q4 06. A "new management" and a "reinvigorated Bellview" were also promised. Any news about this?
ZAZOO come out of the bushes!
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Load of garbage if you ask me.
I'll believe it when i see it! B3 C.E.O. has a lot of mouth with no action to back it!
Glad though that he finally got what he always wanted: LHR!
How he intends to hack it though, is entirely another matter.
The supposed A320s were to be delivered in october of 06, then november, then december, now, march!
A laugh i must say, just another donkey and carrot story to keep the otherwise very tired crew expecting something!
Good luck to those of you who work for B3, you'll probably get the aircrafts when no-one flies such equipment anymore!
I'll believe it when i see it! B3 C.E.O. has a lot of mouth with no action to back it!
Glad though that he finally got what he always wanted: LHR!
How he intends to hack it though, is entirely another matter.
The supposed A320s were to be delivered in october of 06, then november, then december, now, march!
A laugh i must say, just another donkey and carrot story to keep the otherwise very tired crew expecting something!
Good luck to those of you who work for B3, you'll probably get the aircrafts when no-one flies such equipment anymore!
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Hi RANI
Still two 767 on ground here in Lagos as of yesterday! And one captain with two F/O's recently employed on the 767 too. Two upgraded from 737 fleet which I think is a nice move.
Also recruited five new F/O's on the 737 fleet, two undergoing line training for now and three in SA for simulator.
On the captains side two new captains are already on line and one more is about to arrive from SIM in SA.
Regarding the Airbus issue, well its a waiting game for now I think they will come but when, believe me I dont know!
Must say that Bluetail has come a long way though after the Loss of November and this might also be affecting the arrival of the Airbuses!!!
Our load on the west/east coast is quite high now in the last four months, so we going to need them machines soon.Some persons might say thats bcos pax dont have a choice out there but I dont think so I have my own opinion why B3 is now flying high out there.
Concerning the CEO and him having a big mouth well thats an individual opinion, I have never had a problem with him and I can say I get my paycheque every end of the month. And if it takes a CEO with a big mouth to do that, then I rather have CEO's with big mouths. If the crew are tired and still flying then that is a new one cos nobody has his hands tied to the controls all I or any other of the crew needs to do is say Bye and thats final. So on the issue of being tired thats up to the crew, and yes they do have a choice.
By the way HAPPY NEW YEAR RANI
zaz
Still two 767 on ground here in Lagos as of yesterday! And one captain with two F/O's recently employed on the 767 too. Two upgraded from 737 fleet which I think is a nice move.
Also recruited five new F/O's on the 737 fleet, two undergoing line training for now and three in SA for simulator.
On the captains side two new captains are already on line and one more is about to arrive from SIM in SA.
Regarding the Airbus issue, well its a waiting game for now I think they will come but when, believe me I dont know!
Must say that Bluetail has come a long way though after the Loss of November and this might also be affecting the arrival of the Airbuses!!!
Our load on the west/east coast is quite high now in the last four months, so we going to need them machines soon.Some persons might say thats bcos pax dont have a choice out there but I dont think so I have my own opinion why B3 is now flying high out there.
Concerning the CEO and him having a big mouth well thats an individual opinion, I have never had a problem with him and I can say I get my paycheque every end of the month. And if it takes a CEO with a big mouth to do that, then I rather have CEO's with big mouths. If the crew are tired and still flying then that is a new one cos nobody has his hands tied to the controls all I or any other of the crew needs to do is say Bye and thats final. So on the issue of being tired thats up to the crew, and yes they do have a choice.
By the way
HAPPY NEW YEAR RANI zaz
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From what I see Bellview seems to have improved over the last year, except in one respect. Their website is truly lousy when compared with those of Aero and VK. Flight times are wrong because it doesn't seem to have been updated for a long time - for example they still have Port Harcourt on the domestic schedule, over 4 months since it was closed and the flight Douala - Lagos is still down as over 2 hours (presumably because it used to route via Port Harcourt. With Aero getting ready to expand its West Coast services and the possibility of VK and Arik, plus others, if it doesn't modernise all aspects of its operation it will fall behind again. It's to be applauded for the number of routes it flies in West Africa, but that shows others that there's a market out there, so they need to look as fresh and modern as the upcoming competition.
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Your right about the website, I hardly check it out and its !!!
Just mailed this thread to our IT guy lets see what he can come up with
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I see VirginNigeria is advertising for crew here on Pp thats cool, wish the letters read Nigeria Airways though "sulk" oh well maybe someday.....
!!!Just mailed this thread to our IT guy lets see what he can come up with
.I see VirginNigeria is advertising for crew here on Pp thats cool, wish the letters read Nigeria Airways though "sulk"
oh well maybe someday.....
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Moved to the 767 fleet 
me!!!
When, why, how
No Sir, me thinks you got it wrong there, but, nice try though!!!
Quite content here man, in no hurry and like the song goes "we have all the time in the world"
. Me thinks a BBJ or G5 offer would do me quite well.
goodnight all.
zaz
me!!!When, why, how
No Sir, me thinks you got it wrong there, but, nice try though!!!
Quite content here man, in no hurry and like the song goes "we have all the time in the world"
. Me thinks a BBJ or G5 offer would do me quite well.goodnight all.
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hey zazi.ref b3
Would like to let you know,ur a goodman.DEM SAY,WHERE YOU DEY WORK,U DEY CHOP. B3 has really impressed me withen these last couple of months,in these days of industry expansions and some ogas trying to claim a humongous share of it is something to sit back and think...........
The ceo is like every good business man,keep all speculating.but he still pays his bills. i give him some kudos.
hey Rani,love ur views in all issues,the a320-is not a speculation,alot of fleet and crew organization is taking place,and two b767.2 are on grnd los.
WE WAN SEE WETIN GO HAPPEN.
The ceo is like every good business man,keep all speculating.but he still pays his bills. i give him some kudos.
hey Rani,love ur views in all issues,the a320-is not a speculation,alot of fleet and crew organization is taking place,and two b767.2 are on grnd los.
WE WAN SEE WETIN GO HAPPEN.
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Identity Crisis!!!!!!
Quite convenient for us to change username just to say what we would ordinarily not say knowing that others may know who we are!
Ever noticed the very few amount of posts from some probationary ppruners who seem to have a good grip of what topics are on air here?
I say, say what you like, when you like, just try as much as possible to keep it real and true!
Cheers guys!
Ever noticed the very few amount of posts from some probationary ppruners who seem to have a good grip of what topics are on air here?
I say, say what you like, when you like, just try as much as possible to keep it real and true!
Cheers guys!